European Championship 2008 - Brescia Italy
 

Hi there,

I know that it is a bit early but I open this thread for the above event. It would be nice if we shared some information here about it equipment to be used, how to get there etc.

I am very glad and excited as this will be my first international participation as a flier and I hope the same will be for all particpants too.

Here is the offical web link for the event:

http://www.aereomodellismo.org/

So let's start!:)

Best regards,
Nikos

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The Turkish national F3A competition will be on the 1st of June and the first 3 will go to European Championship in August. I am practicing quite a lot for our nats and hope to be able to finish in the first 3 so that I too can go to Italy as part of the Turkish team. There are really good fliers here, it will be tough to beat them but I'll do my best.

If I can manage to be in the team I'll see you there Nikos ;)

Alp

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Best of luck Alp! Hope to see you there!

Nikos

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Hi Nikos,

Really good idea!

This european Championships in Brescia will be my 3rd participation in a international F3A champ for Spain. Infortunatelly this year I will be the only spain pilot.

My arms :D :

2 Beryll EP with AXI 5330/F3A - JETI SPIN 99
JR 9303 2,4.

And you Nikos, what's your material?

regards

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Turkish national F3A contest was held yesterday. I became the 3rd and I'm in the team :D

The team members are:
1- Ahmet Eryildirim
2- Serdar Salta
3- Alpaslan Bak

All our planes are Impulse and we all use OS140RX.

Alp

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Hallo Juan,

Nice plane, I am attending the event with two planes:

- ZN Line Synergy - YS 160DZ
- CARF Integral - YS 170DZ (Main plane)

The other member of the team will be participating with:

- ZN Line Oxalys which can be powered by either a Hacker C50 or a YS-160DZ, the plane can be converted from glow to electric in 10 minutes.

Radio equipment: JR

Hope to see you there,

Nikos

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OK... where's the pics on how all this works???

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Hi Jason,

The pilot, Elias actually can provide info here. On this plane he has tried various power plants such as Cyclon, Pletenberg, Hacker and YS. Currently he flies YS. I think he sticks a firewall extension on the main firewall and then screws the Hacker motor stand. The battery sits at the short pipe area. I don't have any picture of the Hacker motor installation. Here is the YS and the previous Cyclon configuration

Rgrds,
Nikos

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hello


I plan to compete is ths championship
I noticet thet 72 mhz frequency allowed is not nonexisting frequency (72:080, 72:240)
the frequency that I know are odd number start fom 72:010 in difference of 20 khz (the next is 72:030 )
until 72:990

is it a mistake?

http://www.aereomodellismo.org/pdf/B...dE%20F3A07.pdf

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Thank you for the pics Nikos. That is interesting. It would have to be a bit different if it was a 2 piece wing set-up I think. I like the stand-off/full adjustable mount for the electric.

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You are right, those are the old wide band, there must be an error there, unless someone request to use that, if so, I don't want to even see their radios. :)

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Hallo all
I follow almost all the discusions but this is my first post here.
Sorry for not replying earlyer ,I had an F3D race in CZ last week and was busted with preparations (Randy Bridge was there too !)
About the setup ,Nikos posted some pics of the tests I did earlyer with various setups ,starting with Plett 13 ,Cyclon F3A ,Hacker.
The plett setup was the lightest of all ,horizontal manouvers where a joy !,Cyclon was extremely powerfull but was killing the batts,it was also as heavy as Hacker maybe more ,sorry for not having numbers ,I have some in my workshop.The cyclon setup you see was from a pic I sent to friends making a joke with two pack sets put in to the plane .The mount was universal for all outrunner tests.
The Hacker setup uses a front mount with Hatori Heli muffler soft mouts (silicon) .A similar mount but with a big hole is for the nose ring of the YS setup.
I promise some pics as soon as I take out my engine for cleaning (every 50 flights or so) it should be close.
Now I go practice... it`s a nice sunny day here !
It`s really nice to talk to you all through here

Elias Sopeoglou
Ps pics are coming soon

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Hi there,

Let's make this thread more live, the clock is ticking...till next week.

Here are some pics from our practice, practice is never enough though...:)

Nikos

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Hi
Of course I will be there, leaving Norway on Tuesday. I will use my new Integral, as shown in attached pictures

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Good luck Ole old chap!
Good to see the Inte' wearing ofremmi colours... at last.

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Looks good Ola. Good luck!

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That looks like a serious day of practice... not the pilots, they look so relaxed ;)

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Nice/Serious day and nice/serious place, me in the middle at least can not be that serious :). Just want to have fun, watch the rest of the pilots flying and keep some notes, it is my first participation with the team anyway...[8D]

Ola nice plane, is it the one with the Synergy wing and stabs?

Happy practice to everyone,
Nikos

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Hi Ola

We miss you here in Israel.

I see that you use only one servo for the elevator.
Can you explain why not two servos in the tail ?

Best regards and good luck in the European Championship.

Isaac Najary

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Hello again
Thanks for the kind words, I will try to do my best. It's not getting easier to get a good results, there is a lot of pilots flying very good these days.
Regarding the Integral, the stab is actually a Synergy stab, for no other reason than that I had a set of foam-cores laying around. The wing is foam also, same planform as original Integral, but with the same airfoil thickness all the way from root to tip ie. thinner at tip than original.
Isaac : I enjoyed visiting you all, there is a team from Israel coming to the EC also, is it not ? I prefer the single full-size servo for several reasons:
- The bigger servos are more robust and precise
- I prefer to have the weight closer to the CG, servos in the tail moves mass far awy.
- The total weight is lower with one servo, the long cables from RX to the tail-mounted servos are fare heavier than wire pull-pull to the MK bellcrank.

Best regards

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Hi Ola,

Thank you for your answer.

The team from Israel for the EC will be:

Ohad Zarko - national champion.
Shelomi Chester.

Regards,

Isaac Najary

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I think that in a couple of days the Euro F3A will start.


PICTURES ARE WELCOME.

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Yea, who's going to be posting the results, pictures and videos ;) during the practice and contest? Since I'm stuck indoors with no chance to practice anytime soon (Hurricane wanna-be Fay) I've got nothing to do except watch this thread for updates :D.

Best of luck to everyone and looking forward to the reports of the new planes being flown.

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Hi JAS

Friend of mine or me will put results and pics as soon as possible.
Now French team is in Italy and practice (but I'm not sure may be they visit the country and hope to meet pretty Italian girls)
Regards

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Hi Papaone,

How goes the weather in the South-East of France ????......
Here in Manitoba we've 25 gusting 35 kts for 3 days ....... and 2 squall lines today !!!........

I hope French team will have good results .....
I'm very impatient to see some videos of the Axiome .... the design's very special, don't really like it, and I hope it fly very well ... choose performance or design ... that's the question .....

All the best to all the team ...

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Good luck to Ola Fremming and the Norwegians! You'll make the finals this year Ola.

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Hi Badboy

Today there is a lot of wind Mistral. But sun shines (26 degré this afternoon)
I don't like the look of Axiome. I prefer simple design
Regards
Claude

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Hi,

Mistral .. héhé ...
about the axiome, I don't like it ... rather your designs .... more pure ....
have a gd day

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Some pictures....here:

http://www.toflyrc.com/Forum/tm.asp?...1&key=&#219155

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How does Silvestri's biplane handle the windy conditions? Is there enough power?

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Hi,
you can find more pics here:

www.aereomodellismo.org -> Photogallery

http://www.baricentro.org/photoplog/index.php?c=10

http://www.baronerosso.net/forum/aer...08-italia.html

Bye!

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Anybody seen some results after the first round?

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Hi,
no results are published yet, but the Italian Team reports that Silvestri won the first flight!!!

BTW of course these results means nothing, we have to wait the end of the preliminary flights to have a true ranking.

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http://www.aereomodellismo.org/

the official site and the worst picture gallery ive ever seen[sm=what_smile.gif]

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Hi jaycey

Now pictures galery is deleted on this official website.
Anybody get résults of the preliminary flights ?
Claude

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14th F3A European Championships
Calcinatello - Italy
from 23/08/2008 to 31/08/2008
Preliminary - Individual Results
Rank Competitor Country Total Panel 1 Panel 2
1 PAYSANT-LE ROUX Christophe FRA 1000.00 1000.00 1000.00
2 SILVESTRI Sebastiano ITA 976.78 939.24 976.78
3 BESCHORNER Bernd GER 955.40 955.40 919.28
4 CARRIER Stéphane FRA 952.35 952.35 897.82
5 WISSINGER Markus GER 945.02 945.02 881.41
6 MATT Wolfgang LIE 934.86 934.86 866.62
7 MAYR Gerhardt AUT 931.55 931.55 914.47
8 FRIGGERI Luca ITA 912.83 879.46 912.83
9 KAISER Stefan LIE 909.57 909.57 878.05
10 ULSAMER Guenther GER 904.64 889.46 904.64
11 DRACK Patrick SUI 897.43 897.43 0.00
12 DANKSAGMULLER Helmut AUT 893.83 850.62 893.83
13 ZEINER Markus AUT 892.74 892.74 848.67
14 SCHADEN Bernhard SUI 887.17 848.51 887.17
15 ROCHEDIEU Florent FRA 883.34 883.34 840.52
16 ROMBAUT Juan ESP 874.65 874.65 732.42
17 DIERICKX Benoit BEL 874.25 874.25 0.00
18 FREMMING Ola NOR 874.05 869.24 874.05
19 SCHADLER Nick LIE 872.83 872.83 837.42
20 RUBIN Marc SUI 872.35 872.35 858.19
21 HELENO Bruno POR 863.65 863.65 428.22
22 HARROP John GBR 861.46 861.46 842.19
23 POKORNY Frantisek CZE 858.04 858.04 856.10
24 VAN DER VECHT Derk NED 857.60 857.60 824.87
25 OLSSON Bernt SWE 855.90 855.90 829.15
26 GRASSELLI Andrea ITA 851.94 851.94 824.44
27 KYJOVSKY David CZE 848.14 848.14 768.71
28 HRACH Michal CZE 848.08 848.08 772.73
29 VAN VLIET Danny NED 840.83 840.83 732.08
30 STENLUND Tommy SWE 837.56 837.56 786.18
31 MARQUET Philippe BEL 836.37 836.37 807.98
32 SELVA Massimo SMR 832.34 832.34 789.64
33 LUNDSTROM David SWE 828.80 828.80 801.55
34 HINRICHSEN Peer DEN 824.82 824.82 745.34
35 NURILA Lassi FIN 816.99 816.99 741.84
36 COSTA Antonio POR 811.29 811.29 784.54
37 MARTIN John IRL 810.16 786.05 810.16
38 ZARKO Ohad ISR 804.27 734.85 804.27
39 PETTERSEN Kjell Tore NOR 800.04 800.04 743.53
40 BUTUZOV Sergey RUS 798.82 763.60 798.82
41 FERREIRA Rui POR 783.98 783.98 721.22
42 CHRISTOPHER Richard GBR 774.94 774.94 773.18
43 KEANE Ray IRL 774.94 743.72 774.94
44 ZARDINI Jean Pierre BEL 772.86 772.86 695.21
45 GEORGIADES Nicolas CYP 770.87 770.87 702.14
46 SWIDEREK Piotr POL 766.02 766.02 736.72
47 BUCKLEY Brian IRL 764.39 756.87 764.39
48 JENSEN Andreas B NOR 763.45 763.45 760.44
49 URBANSKI Krzysztof POL 755.08 755.08 712.04
50 SIMM Stephen GBR 753.55 662.99 753.55
51 URBANSKI Piotr POL 746.14 746.14 666.97
52 SYOMIN Oleksiy RUS 733.42 633.56 733.42
53 BERENDSE Haijo NED 726.70 726.70 665.53
54 LAUGESEN Morten DEN 719.68 719.68 697.40
Gnami © 1993-2005 Alexandre Pignot.
Rank Competitor Country Total Panel 1 Panel 2
55 KRISTENSEN Ole DEN 717.06 701.18 717.06
56 MANDRIKA Victor RUS 713.51 694.30 713.51
57 AHO-MANTILA Antti FIN 700.83 637.96 700.83
58 SOPEOGLOU Elias GRE 684.45 629.72 684.45
59 MAKAROV Valery UKR 679.32 626.27 679.32
60 CHESTER Shlomo ISR 662.51 653.14 662.51
61 STUPAK Volodymyr UKR 656.40 621.37 656.40
62 UKRAINSKIY Sergey UKR 647.46 553.72 647.46
63 LOIKKANEN Jani FIN 632.83 569.05 632.83
64 KIOROGLOU Nikos GRE 622.44 602.44 622.44
65 ERYILDIRIM Ahmet Sukru TUR 575.34 467.21 575.34
66 SALTA Serdar TUR 406.99 406.99 0.00
67 BAK Alpaslan TUR 369.28 369.28 0.00
68 IVANOV Pavel BUL 0.00 0.00 0.00
69 IVANOV Kiril Emilov BUL 0.00 0.00 0.00
Bob Skinner Pierre Pignot Massimo Semoli
FAI Jury President FAI Jury Member FAI Jury Member
Gnami © 1993-2005 Alexandre Pignot.

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Is Roland Matt not competing again? I thought I saw his name on a plane in one of the galleries. Isn't he defending champion?

RE: European Championship 2008 - Brescia Italy
 

Sorry, my memory plays tricks with me sometimes. In 2006 it was CPLR, Matt, Silvestri.