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Don Szczur 02-02-2010 10:36 PM

1st ever RC Pattern Contest On-Line
 
Ok, based on the level of interest I've been getting for this new virtual RC world - Take part in the first of its kind, RC pattern contest on-line. Get your simulators loaded, get your plane adjusted, and lets go!

Registration is now open. You can e-mail me off line and I'll set up a flight order. We'll be flying at the Phoenix RC simulator (mulit-player), Moscow, Italy with a pilots meeting starting at 7 PM Eastern Time, this Saturday evening. Registration in advance is preferred, as I'll likely set up a password on the session to avoid mid-airs. Depending on interest level we can either do it on one session or set up multiple sessions for each class. Would need assistant line directors for each class in that event. We'll plan on contestant judging.

Cheers,
Don

wagen017 02-03-2010 02:24 AM

RE: 1st ever RC Pattern Contest On-Line
 
No password please! What about spectators! :-) Just use verbal abuse to get rid of low-flyers!

I am really interested to see how this would work, just a shame for us 7 PM is 01 AM for us.

best of luck!

Volkert

AmericanSpectre505 02-03-2010 10:48 AM

RE: 1st ever RC Pattern Contest On-Line
 
Looks like I need the pheonix RC simulator,..LOL


Great idea,...guys!:D


Bill Holsten

Mastertech 02-03-2010 11:08 AM

RE: 1st ever RC Pattern Contest On-Line
 
Just ordered mine, should have it tomorrow. I'll try to get it setup and running so I can attend.

Don Szczur 02-03-2010 08:30 PM

RE: 1st ever RC Pattern Contest On-Line
 
Well, this is really breaking new ground here. Depending on interest, we can host a follow on competition which would be a different time to accommodate more international timezones.

Don

Jetdesign 02-03-2010 08:42 PM

RE: 1st ever RC Pattern Contest On-Line
 
I am interested in future contests. Don't have Phoenix yet but planning on getting it at some point, maybe after tax season.

Don Szczur 02-05-2010 05:12 PM

RE: 1st ever RC Pattern Contest On-Line
 
We still have slots open for the contest tomorrow night. Come out this evening and let's practice. Open flying. 7 PM Eastern time tonight. I'll set up the field.

So far we have two entered in FAI, and two entered in Advanced, plus two more (TBD if their simulators arrive in time).

See you,

Don

shepga 02-05-2010 05:53 PM

RE: 1st ever RC Pattern Contest On-Line
 
Don,
I'll be flying advanced.

Glen

Mastertech 02-05-2010 06:46 PM

RE: 1st ever RC Pattern Contest On-Line
 
I'd be there but none of my PC's will read the disc. I hope to exchange it tomorrow.

highfly3D 02-06-2010 12:31 AM

RE: 1st ever RC Pattern Contest On-Line
 
who are the judges...

Don Szczur 02-06-2010 12:55 AM

RE: 1st ever RC Pattern Contest On-Line
 
We'll use contestant judging, depending on how many contestants we have. We have a foot of snow already, so will have to work this at home after shoveling in the morning. Judges should e-mail scores directly. For those practicing tomorrow, we found that flying at about 100 meters out presents the best and has the closest timing to an actual flight. Integral flies pretty good, but there are one or two other models that could be used.

So far registered we have 3 in FAI, 2 in Advanced. Several others may be coming on line tomorrow. Should be exciting.

Andy P. 02-06-2010 02:45 AM

RE: 1st ever RC Pattern Contest On-Line
 
I hope to be joining in but I'm not sure that the online function is working on my sim, anyone care to go online with the sim right now and try hooking up?

Don Szczur 02-06-2010 06:18 PM

RE: 1st ever RC Pattern Contest On-Line
 
I'm on there right now. Go to the pattern contest session. I e-mailed you the password

Don Szczur 02-06-2010 06:34 PM

RE: 1st ever RC Pattern Contest On-Line
 
If anyone would like to joint, I'm online now you can e-mail me at [email protected] and I'll send you the password.

Thanks,
Don

Don Szczur 02-06-2010 08:43 PM

RE: 1st ever RC Pattern Contest On-Line
 
Well, its official. The first ever RC online pattern contest is complete and was a complete success. We had three entered in FAI and two in Advanced. I anticipate we will do it again in a couple weeks, with more participants. It was a total blast. The nervousness, the anticipation, ready box, corrections, centering, totally a blast.

I'll post scores and standings when they are calculated.

Don

shepga 02-06-2010 09:40 PM

RE: 1st ever RC Pattern Contest On-Line
 
Don,
Thanks for hosting the contest. It was alot of fun and proved the concept can work. It was great being a part of something brand new.
I look forward to the next one.

Glen

faulknej 02-06-2010 10:00 PM

RE: 1st ever RC Pattern Contest On-Line
 
That's outstanding. Does the sim allow spectators, or is there a limit to how many can be in the session? My sim is due to arrive on Monday. I've never seen anyone fly a pattern schedule. Ifigure this could be a good way to see it done. Jim

Don Szczur 02-06-2010 10:06 PM

RE: 1st ever RC Pattern Contest On-Line
 
1 Attachment(s)
Attached are the final standings. AC came on strong at the end for a solid finish.

I'll post some settings for the Integral, which may be helpful. I'll also see if I can get the Phoenix RC folks to upload a Black Magic VF3 as soon as I'm done making a few more adjustments. It's in the ballpark (if I can prevent Joseph to keeping on changing the YS to electric).

Don

Don Szczur 02-06-2010 10:09 PM

RE: 1st ever RC Pattern Contest On-Line
 
1 Attachment(s)
FAI standings (if the camera works).


Don Szczur 02-06-2010 10:15 PM

RE: 1st ever RC Pattern Contest On-Line
 
Limit is 8 per session. There should be enough room- We'll have a second session (like a contest- one session for each of two flight lines so we can fly simultaneously, just like a real contest). Pilots should be able to enter and exit each session depending on whether they are judging, flying or spectating.

Also, we'll make the contest earlier in the day to allow European competitors (its like 4 in the morning right now in the UK).

Cheers!

Don

faulknej 02-06-2010 10:19 PM

RE: 1st ever RC Pattern Contest On-Line
 
Wow! This could be better than a dart league.

cdodom 02-06-2010 11:10 PM

RE: 1st ever RC Pattern Contest On-Line
 
A black Magic VF3 will be perfect for this I have been wanting someone to do one for a long time now. Thanks Don.

oh I will be getting this sim very soon and joining in on the fun...any masters pilots yet?

Jetdesign 02-07-2010 12:12 AM

RE: 1st ever RC Pattern Contest On-Line
 
So what are the rules going to be for competing in classes? Same rules as in real life, or can I try intermediate and bounce back to sportsman if it's a handful?

wagen017 02-07-2010 04:00 AM

RE: 1st ever RC Pattern Contest On-Line
 
I sent a mail to Phoenix RC suggesting they implement a box with possibly 45 degrees at centre as well. It should be very easy to implement, just 100m or so parallel to the runway. What would be the best way to approach them for this? Bombard with emails or do we have somebody close to these guys?
Now all I received back is a thank you, we wil consider note.

IF they would implement it, I think they'd have an instant success in the pattern community.

Volkert

Andy P. 02-07-2010 04:07 AM

RE: 1st ever RC Pattern Contest On-Line
 
Don,

just to thank you for the email, I'm sorry I missed the gig, had a rough day and fell asleep [:o]. So pleased it went good for you guy's!

I will be at the next comp though, that's a promise, even if I have to put matchsticks under my eyelids!

Great initiative, you should be proud ;)

I have checked my multiplayer function though and it would appear that my router is causing some problems, like not allowing me to play on-line. I've checked the Phoenix web site and theres some gumf on there about router settings which I need to configure :eek: better get my techy head on and try and sort it out [:o]

Just a thought, can anyone record the flights as they happen? would be good to show some footage of the comp!

VBR

Andy.

Don Szczur 02-07-2010 09:23 AM

RE: 1st ever RC Pattern Contest On-Line
 
I think the best part was renewing old friendships and seeing friendships renewed- and making new friends. There were some lighter moments as well- AC's "CLPR landing" (almost). Cameron's first flight (hey where did those flags come from). It was great. The multiplayer seems like a standard internet connection- just the click of a button and you are there. Hope you are able to connect.

Don

shepga 02-07-2010 09:55 AM

RE: 1st ever RC Pattern Contest On-Line
 
Volkert,
For pattern the box is defined as 60 degrees either side of center (which is already available in the Moskow flying site where the competition was held). Why would you need an additional box at 45 degrees either side of center?

Andy P
You can record the flights as they happen (next time I'll record the whole contest), but I don't see a way to upload the recordings to YouTube. Now this would be something worth asking Phoenix to implement. In fact I'll do just that.

Glen

wagen017 02-07-2010 03:22 PM

RE: 1st ever RC Pattern Contest On-Line
 
regarding the "box", what would really work for me is having parallel to the runway at a certain distance a top and bottom line (horizontal), a center line and a 60 degrees line left and right (all vertical). As an option 45 degrees lines from top to bottom thru the center.

Even with the grid at the moscow site I have really big troubles keeping my line while flying with the simulator. For me, there are too many lines now, it confuses me.

Hope what I write makes any sense!

Volkert

faulknej 02-10-2010 06:02 PM

RE: 1st ever RC Pattern Contest On-Line
 
Link to AMA-Muncie field.

http://www.seaky.hu/phoenixrc/sceneries.html


Nice job on the Muncie field.

Don Szczur 02-10-2010 07:44 PM

RE: 1st ever RC Pattern Contest On-Line
 
Sweet- right on for the virtual NATS competition.

faulknej 02-10-2010 08:04 PM

RE: 1st ever RC Pattern Contest On-Line
 
Ithought you'd like it.

Don Szczur 02-13-2010 04:23 PM

RE: 1st ever RC Pattern Contest On-Line
 
What we found is that if you fly at about 120 meters out, and make the bottoms of maneuvers such that you can see the buildings and signs along the fence, it works pretty well. The center is the clearing in the clouds at this distance, at the tops of maneuvers. The left landmark is the exhaust stacks, the near-center landmark on the left is the blue building, the near center landmark on the right is the gray building, and the red and white banners and edge of clouds are the guide marks on the right side of the box. The simulator forces you to look at these box segments, not unlike what is done when flying for real. If you fly out further the plane is hard to see and if you fly in much closer it gets really high on center and is hard to judge.

Our next competition is scheduled for 3 PM on Saturday, 27 August. We'll have an informal judging/practicing session/contest at 3 PM on 20 August as well, and if there is enough interest we can do a contest at that time as well- its just that several will be at WRAMs show. If interested in either of these send me a note at [email protected] (its easier to use a separate computer than the one I'm sim'ing on).

See you,

Don

faulknej 02-13-2010 05:53 PM

RE: 1st ever RC Pattern Contest On-Line
 
Ican tell by the dates you REALLY want the winter to end. LOL

Andy P. 02-20-2010 12:00 PM

RE: 1st ever RC Pattern Contest On-Line
 
Hey Don,

is the second online contest taking place tonight? I thought your email suggested it might, just curious.............

regards,

Andy.

Don Szczur 02-20-2010 03:11 PM

RE: 1st ever RC Pattern Contest On-Line
 
Practice session today 3 PM through 6 PM. Contest next Saturday. If we want to do rounds today let me know I'll judge and/or critique

Multiplayer Pattern Practice session. No password .

Don

Don Szczur 02-20-2010 03:13 PM

RE: 1st ever RC Pattern Contest On-Line
 
That is... now through 6 PM (next 3 hours).

See you,
Don

Andy P. 02-20-2010 04:00 PM

RE: 1st ever RC Pattern Contest On-Line
 
just tryed to find the session, no joy, I'm sure it's a problem my end but have gone through everything that pheonix have suggetsed, still no world wide contact!

I'm gutted man!..........

Andy P. 02-20-2010 04:04 PM

RE: 1st ever RC Pattern Contest On-Line
 
even got my headphone chewnage sorted for the ocassion...................
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKtX6...eature=related

enjoy you guy's....one love....F3A///////

shepga 02-20-2010 04:07 PM

RE: 1st ever RC Pattern Contest On-Line
 
Andy,
I have been also trying to find the session. I don't think it's there. I have always been able to see and join sessions in the past.

Glen

Don Szczur 02-20-2010 06:18 PM

RE: 1st ever RC Pattern Contest On-Line
 
let me know if you can see it now.


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