mattayl

hi everyone, im new to the whole nitro rc car world and have been doing my research on them for the last 3-4 weeks to try and find the most cost effective, fast and durable car on the market in my price range. i have found some cars and have the stats that have been provided and i was just wondering if someone could help me choose a first nitro rc car to buy. i havent raced one before but am good enough with electric rc cars to get a nitro so yeah, out of these cars which do you think would be best to start off with?? also if you have any other suggestions they would be much appreciated. the car are:

CEN CT5 Ford GT RTR 1/10 Nitro Car : $450, 117 kp/h

DUAL-SPEED DRIVETRAIN!

2 in 1! The CT5 racing sedan from CEN Racing comes with an alternative drive train. The choice is yours! Reach speeds of up to 75mph, or hit the local on-road track with blistering low end speeds to help you conquer your competition. The diversity of the CT5 by CEN Racing allows you to express the inner speed freak within, whether it’s at the track or in the parking lot.

1. Front and Rear Spider Gear differentials

2. Pivot ball suspension - Wheel Hub fits right into wheel perfectly for best aerodynamic

3. Adjustable rear toe-in to adjust to all track conditions. Thick rear sway bar to reduce chassis roll

4. Low CG Front and Rear gear diff. With adjustable toe-in, camber, and down travel

5. High impact foam bumper - Reduce damage in hard collisions. Front shock towers with multiple shock mounting positions

6. 3mm Super solid, fully countersunk chassis

7. NX-15 Big Block Lighting Engine

8. Racing tuned Pipe / High Flow Aluminum Manifold

9. Adjustable lightweight 2-speed transmission

10. Ultra efficient belt driven system

11. Adjustable Down Travel "Droop"

12. Racing Inspired suspension with white-coated spring

13. CEN's exclusive diaphragm pump and internal stone filter that eliminates air leaks while providing easiest priming

Requires: Fuel,Glow Ignitor and batteries.(Starter Pack Recommended can be ordered Online)







HPI Nitro RS4 3 EVO+ RTR w/1966 Mustang GT Body $500, 81 kp/h

FEATURES: Chassis: 0.098" (2.5mm) 6061 aluminum, purple in color
Drive: Four wheel shaft drive
Engine: Nitro Star G3.0 3.0cc (.18 cu in) 2.2hp with pull-starter,
can be bump started in racing applications) ABC cylinder and liner
construction-"A"luminum piston,"B"rass cylinder liner that is
"C"hrome plated, lightweight aluminum con rod, 2 needle 6.5mm
rotary carburetor, 2 stage air filter,

Exhaust: Dual chamber aluminum tuned pipe with tube header, black in
color
Radio: Two channel 27MHz AM with steering and throttle trims, dual
rate for steering and charge jack for optional NiCd battery
Servos: Two standard size and torque
Fuel Tank: 2.53oz (75cc), flip top cap
Clutch: 2-shoe
Transmission: Two-speed, adjustable
Ball Bearings: 18 rubber sealed
Shocks: Four oil-filled, with coil-over spring
Main Gear: 47 and 43 tooth composite construction main gears
Clutch bell: 22 teeth and 18 teeth gears that thread onto clutch bell
Gearbox: Sealed, front and rear
Differentials: Sealed, with metal bevel gears, limited slip front
differential
Brakes: Single disc, fiber construction
Tires: D compound X-pattern 1.02" (26mm) wide, 2.5" (65mm) diameter
Wheels: Vintage 5-spoke matte finish chrome
Body: Pre-painted and trimmed with rear wing and decals applied
Bumper: Front foam
Suspension: Four wheel independent
Caster: Adjustable, caster/toe-in refers to the angle of the front
suspension when viewed from the side of the car in relation to the
chassis
Camber: Adjustable, camber refers to the angle of the tops of the
tires from vertical when viewed from front or behind vehicle
Steering: Bellcrank
Servo Saver: Included




INCLUDES: HPI RS4 3 Evo+ oil-filled shocks, tuned pipe, 3.0cc engine , trimmed
and painted polycarbonate body, tires, foam inserts, wheels, decals
AM 27MHz 2-ch radio.




REQUIRES: AA Batteries: 12 (8 for radio, 4 for battery box)
Track Equipment: Fuel bottle, glow starter
Fuel:16-20% Nitro





HPI Nitro RS4 3 18SS+ Kit w/1968 Camaro Body $450, 81kp/h

FEATURES: Chassis: 0.098" (2.5mm) thick anodized aluminum, purple in color
Drive: Four wheel shaft drive
Engine: Nitro Star .18R SS (2.9cc) 1.5hp with pull-starter, (can be
bump started in racing applications) ABC cylinder and liner
construction-"A"luminum piston,"B"rass cylinder liner that is
"C"hrome plated, lightweight aluminum con rod, 2 needle 6mm rotary
carburetor, 2 stage air filter
Exhaust: Dual chamber aluminum tuned pipe, black in color
Fuel Tank: 2.53oz (75cc), flip top cap
Clutch: 2-shoe
Transmission: Two-speed
Ball Bearings: 18 rubber sealed
Shocks: Four oil-filled, with coil-over spring
Main Gear:
Clutch bell:
Gearbox: Sealed, front and rear
Differentials: Sealed, with metal bevel gears, limited slip front
differential
Brakes: single disc, fiber construction
Tires:
Wheels: Silver matte finish, five spoke vintage design
Body: Clear 1968 Chevy Camaro with decals, overspray film, window
and racing wing
Bumpers: Front foam
Suspension: Four wheel independent
Caster: Adjustable, caster/toe-in refers to the angle of the front
suspension when viewed from the side of the car in relation to the
chassis
Camber: Adjustable, camber refers to the angle of the tops of the
tires from vertical when viewed from front or behind vehicle
Steering: Bellcrank
Servo Saver: Included



INCLUDES: HPI RS4 3 18SS Camaro with oil-filled shocks, .18 engine, clear
polycarbonate body, tires, foam inserts, silver wheels, 19/23 tooth,
43/47 tooth spur gear, clear body, decals and instructions



REQUIRES: Radio: 2-Channel with 2 Servos
(High torque servo for steering recommended but not required)
Radio Batteries: 12 AA size
Glow Starter: 1.2V
Paint: For polycarbonate bodies
Misc. Items: Fuel bottle, building and track equipment
Fuel: 16-20% Nitro





these are the cars and theyre specs, i live in australia also so yeah, if you have any suggestions or you could help me decide what to get it would be very much appreciated, thanks.

ByronRC

My Feedback: (2)

go with the hpi 18 ss. you get the satisfaction of building something yourself and you get a good understanding of how the car works. It's faster than the evo, and stronger then the ct5 from what i've heard

GYNAIKAS

I completely agree with byronrc.

mattayl

oh ok thanks, although would a team associated nitro tc3+ rtr be even better are they good also can they be tuned to drift and if you know, what sorta speed can you get with them and hows handling acceleration? and durability? and are there many parts to get tuned up or upgraded?

matt

GYNAIKAS

18ss with the stage-D conversion set is a much better drifter than ntc3. 18ss has a more powerfull engine than the ntc3. But ntc3 has more toe in options.

ferrarimk13

anything with drift tires is adequate to drift. i say go with the RS4

mattayl

oh ok but the rs4 18ss+ doesnt come with radio and electronics but the ntc3 does and the 18ss is only $50 dollars cheaper which means i would be paying $550-600 all up for the 18ss is it worth it? or is there another better kit car with a radio or a RTR thats better for that money, oh also its australian dollars


matt

GYNAIKAS

Yes but stage-D kit makes it even easier for RS4, right?

8man

If you are going to start off modifications right away, get the evo. As for drifting, I would still get the evo. The evo has lower gears in the diffs, and makes breaking the tires loose easier. Better to get the radio and servos (not the best I know) and save some green for those hop-ups that you know you're going to buy. If a better engine is your concern, get a gently used one. Save some cash there too. The 15 in the evo will drift just fine though. My $0.02.

GYNAIKAS

I still insist on the 18ss...except if building a kit is something you want to avoid...

mattayl

so over all what do you think?? is the rs4 3 18ss+ alot better than the evo+ or what?? because the evo is a RTR with radio and the 18ss is a kit with no radio or servos so they will cost $150 more to make the 18ss $590 and the evo+ will cost $500 with radio, what is the best way to go or is there a RTR car out there better than the evo+ and the 18ss+ with more upgrades??

matt

GYNAIKAS

Ntc3 is something between them...but the Radio that you'll get for the 18ss will be an intermediate one wich means a GREAT investment for any other car you may get. I'd go for the 18ss with the Sanwa MX3 radio if I was you (since I prefer stick type I got the Gemini II wich was the same software on).

mattayl

yeh iv made my decision now, ill deff get a 18ss and get a intermediate radio with servos so i can take them from car to car if i chose to get a new car kit. also is the cobra radio i showed you as good as the sanwa mx3 or which one is better???

wb

matt

GYNAIKAS

They are about the same but i think that sanwa's quality is better.

Foxy

Get a futaba 3pm if you can. And if you can afford it, get one really high spec servo for the steering, Futaba S9451 if possible, it makes a huge difference to the way a car drives over cheap servos.

GYNAIKAS

Yeap but for starting, the sanwa servos of the MX3 are the fastest "stock" out there.

associatedrules

I would look into the NTC3 for the easy maintenance. If you get the HPI look into the Futaba Fast radio system. It is 2.4 DSM, and only a little more on price than the MX3.

d.k.v

get the camaro i am gettin one it a few weeks!!!

GYNAIKAS

I think he got the 18ss...this thread is old

mattayl

haha thanks everyone i ended up getting the HPI rs4 3 18ss+ with 68' camaro body and sanwa mx3 radio

d.k.v

good job tell us how u goin with it!

mattayl

yeah its goin really well just havin few start problems cause im a bit rusty with the starting the engine but by tomoz it should be sweet, oh and yeah my main progress forum thread is called "just ordered new nitro rc soo stoked new help though" so check it out theres heaps of good info in there and yeah the rs4 3 18ss_ dominates such a mad car and look pro aswell

GYNAIKAS

I thing you're a gifted young man and you've managed to learn how to build a kit realy fast...but never let your enthusiasm make you to hurry more than you should.

ferrarimk13

$500 for an RS4 is too much, you can get em for less than $400, i think towers has em for $320

GYNAIKAS

You know better...I live in Greece...things are different here...[&o]