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Old 09-03-2008, 06:31 AM
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I can't take credit for the photo, found it on an Italian modeler's site, but here's another heli for you... and I think this is what Martin is talking about...
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Old 09-03-2008, 07:19 AM
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excellent picture!
Yes, that does it for me.
Old 09-03-2008, 09:38 AM
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Yeap, that's the sort of thing!
Wicked. Scary. Love it.
Old 09-03-2008, 04:22 PM
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Oh my,
That's exactly what has been needed lately. That is the essence of what this thread is about.
It's images like this and those of the late Phil Bosquet that make this threads' world go 'round.

In most cases in this thread, even the little thumbnail doesn't fool you.
We have a tendancy to draw from our own experiences. My experience in seeing images of old WWI birds sure has nothing to do with pristine color images shot on a biatchin' new digital still camera. That's a challenge that the older genre's of model photographers' have to keep in mind.

In a few posts above, there are some fantastic photos of WWI models, and that's where it ends. Even in their thumbnails, I'm not fooled for an instant.

The heli photo, on the other hand, I'd like to study at 800% of the image.

This thread is not about keeping it real. It's about making it look real. That takes a lot of work. You don't just point and shoot...unless you're lucky enough to be in cool location that does the work for you.

I don't really do much photography as I'm more a video guy, but here are a couple screenshots from my latest movie “Hawgfest†that I think capture and portray very realistically what I would imagine seeing in the full-scale world.
The distance, and the fact that it's video (albeit 1080i HD footage) all help to convince. The scary thing is that these models get more real the closer you get.
The movie "Hawgfest" can be viewed in best resolution at [link=http://www.ca-jets.com/Theater/theater2/movies/index.html]CA-JetsTheaters[/link]
Or, for a much lesser quality a YouTube version is available [link=http://www.youtube.com/user/preese1]HERE[/link]
If you go to the www.ca-jets.com link above, stay awhile and have a look around. Even if you're not a jet guy, I think you'll enjoy the visit and many of the movies.

Keep them photos coming guys,
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Old 09-03-2008, 05:37 PM
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Nice shots...

I wish I could take credit for the heli photo, but I can't. It does, however, capture the essence of the intention of this thread. I spent a while looking at it before I posted it, and the only way I knew for sure it was a model was from another pic on the site where the pilot figure was more visible.

I think helis make it a little easier to pose the flying shots, but there have been some fantastic fixed wing shots on here as well. The BAE Hawk on the previous page is a great example. You can study it for a long time and still not be 100% sure you're looking at a model...
Old 09-04-2008, 02:48 AM
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The BAE Hawk on the previous page is a great example. You can study it for a long time and still not be 100% sure you're looking at a model...
Yes, Phil certainly had a fantastic eye for angle, light and composition. I will miss seeing his stuff here.

For those that are unaware, Phil Bousquet passed away on August 24. I'm going miss his consistently excellent contributions here. The one thing he always did was to clearly identify the plane, owner and location of the photograph, which was nice. I imagine that you had to know you had something special if you saw Phil Bousquet pointing the business end of a camera at it.
I bet he's shooting some great overhead shots now :-)
Blue skies with contrasting puffy clouds Phil.
Old 09-04-2008, 04:06 AM
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That BAE Hawk was superb. Typical PB.
Phil Bousquet totally understood what was what, had the eyes to see the opportunities and the skill to pull it off.
It's typical that one must wait untill somethings gone to truely discover just how great it actually was!
Very sad. A marvelous photographer and a great contributor.
Old 09-04-2008, 04:19 PM
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Hmmm, I guess the requirements for this thread have changed then. I thought that they were determined by the original poster - Mustang 51

The photos should be the following...

A) The aircraft modeled must be that of an actual aircraft.

B) The model should be a "SCALE" model.
meaning...
It should look like the aircraft that is being modeled. If the real plane had strut and wheel covers... so should the model(it shouldn't have music wire struts). There should be no rx antennas showing in the photo. If the real plane had a 3 or 4 blade prop, and this is a picture of that plane(model) on the ground? Then the model should have a 3 or 4 blade prop, not a Zinger 20x10. etc...etc.

Think of this as a kind of "Top Gun" of photo threads.

And finally, that brings us to the most confusing of the requirements of the photo.
...C) The photo should be "of an angle that you would actually be looking at the aircraft" or "as the eye perceives it".
...meaning...Don't post the picture of that beautiful Mustang with a guy holding it during engine run ups.

Thanks to all for participating...it's going great.

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These are "air"planes. The most natural place to shoot them is in the air I think, and perhaps the most challenging. Little or no time to set something up or pose. Just hope for good lighting, great models to shoot, and that you've got everything set right. This is in no way meant to slight the efforts put forth to get a great ground or static shot.

My .02 worth
Old 09-04-2008, 05:26 PM
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ORIGINAL: Lucky Dog

Hmmm, I guess the requirements for this thread have changed then. I thought that they were determined by the original poster - Mustang 51

The photos should be the following...

A) The aircraft modeled must be that of an actual aircraft.

B) The model should be a "SCALE" model.
meaning...
It should look like the aircraft that is being modeled. If the real plane had strut and wheel covers... so should the model(it shouldn't have music wire struts). There should be no rx antennas showing in the photo. If the real plane had a 3 or 4 blade prop, and this is a picture of that plane(model) on the ground? Then the model should have a 3 or 4 blade prop, not a Zinger 20x10. etc...etc.

Think of this as a kind of "Top Gun" of photo threads.

And finally, that brings us to the most confusing of the requirements of the photo.
...C) The photo should be "of an angle that you would actually be looking at the aircraft" or "as the eye perceives it".
...meaning...Don't post the picture of that beautiful Mustang with a guy holding it during engine run ups.

Thanks to all for participating...it's going great.

-Mustang51


These are "air"planes. The most natural place to shoot them is in the air I think, and perhaps the most challenging. Little or no time to set something up or pose. Just hope for good lighting, great models to shoot, and that you've got everything set right. This is in no way meant to slight the efforts put forth to get a great ground or static shot.

My .02 worth
Thank You !
Semper Fi
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Old 09-05-2008, 07:00 PM
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How about these?
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Old 09-05-2008, 07:02 PM
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I meant these!
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Old 09-06-2008, 09:26 AM
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Fokker D-VIII, photos taken by Lucky Dog at the 2007 Dayton Rondevous

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Old 09-06-2008, 03:24 PM
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Message no sooner sent and 2 sets of pictures are posted that don't meet the thread's objective.
Nice planes but no cigar.
I did the same thing over a year ago. Haven't had a picture of one of my planes worthy of this thread.
It is really a great thread.
Thanks for creating it. I watch it all the time.
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Old 09-06-2008, 04:57 PM
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310 shot is nice! Absolutely nothing wrong with it I can see, unless you're going to bust him for the antennna, which is believable. IMHO.

Sir Percy, I have to agree with Sabo on the DVIII shots. Traffic cone and non scale engine visable. But thanks! Glad you like them!

Old 09-06-2008, 05:13 PM
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How about this Pup shot? Think it's going to fool anyone? Any coments welcome.

Old 09-06-2008, 06:36 PM
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Yup. It's the antenna. You can see where it is connected by the rubber band.
Nice plane though.
Old 09-06-2008, 06:48 PM
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If we forget about the antenna...the only way to perceive a scale image is to try and force your mind to see tha palm bush as being out of focus because it is nearer to us than the plane, and wee are focussed far beyond the bush to the distant plane..
But everything about the photo says that it isn't...making the plane small, or the palm increadibly huge.

Then there's the antenna, which if this were a full-scale would be about 3/4" diameter antenna wire. Not good.

Again, nice photo, but the natural elements are working against it in this case, along with the obvious antenna prob.

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Old 09-06-2008, 07:52 PM
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O.K., now I've got a 2.4 gHz radio installed and the antenna is no longer visible. Does it meet the intent now?
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Old 09-06-2008, 09:17 PM
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O.K., now I've got a 2.4 gHz radio installed and the antenna is no longer visible. Does it meet the intent now?
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Does help. But I can see some of what others have comented on regarding depth of field and how it can (but not always) be challenge when it come to things like trees in the frame. But then if you have all sky, it's not apparently favorable either.
Old 09-06-2008, 10:25 PM
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It's a catch 22 but you do have a fantastic looking aircraft. I'm glad you posted it.
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Where's the pilot? Did he jump ship?
Old 09-09-2008, 08:10 PM
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Where's the pilot? Did he jump ship?
Maybe he prefers flying from the right seat.
Old 09-09-2008, 08:18 PM
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ThunderTiger P-40 foamy
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Old 09-09-2008, 11:02 PM
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hi guys great pics in this thread keep it up.I got a few pics of a austars model tiger in australian colours
this plane flys great 26cc spe,also the austars TL 2000 ultralight i hope the pics are ok for this thread
cheers glen
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Well, I'm staying quiet.


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