WacoNut

TR thanks for the pics,
I might go that route and I may try carving them out of foam and laying up my own, not sure yet.
Anthony
ps. I should always do a spell check as my fingers move faster than my brain sometimes

WacoNut

As you may have noticed sometimes I have the attention span of a 2 month old crack baby and I wonder off to different parts of the build. I decided to do a little work to the nav light housings. The main body of the 3 lights are the same just the mounting of the tail light is different. I have started constructing the moutning base for the wing tip lights. It is laminated with a piece of 1/4 ply in the center and 1/8 ply on each side. I have it rough shaped but it will require some more shaping and filling to smooth it out and get the appearance of a cast part. They will be mounted with a screw once completed, I will wait until I get the housing shaped and ready for paint before hollowing it out to accept the LED light.
Here are a couple pics of how the 1st housing is shaping up.
Anthony

germrb

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Anthony,

Wait til its covered! Don't worry about the size. After awhile it doesn't look big; its just that everything else looks small.

By the way, what are you using for filler material?

WacoNut

Bob,
I am giving drywall joint compound a try on areas that need very little fill, it appears to be light and sands great and I had a 5 gal bucket in the basement. So far I have had to use very little filler, mostly at the wing tips as you see in those pics. I got a little carried away with the sander in a couple areas. As you can see I added a filler piece at the wing tip L/E, The tip will just not look right once the covering is applied if you do not add this piece(found out the hard way on my Pepino).
Anthony

germrb

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Anthony,

There's no shame in using filler, only in using it as an excuse for workmanship.

I have been using a product called "Split Second", which is a very light weight polyester based filler for automotive applications. It is the consistancy of peanut butter and use a small tube of curitive (Ratio 1:37). Use just enough to make the material robbins egg blue. It sands beautifully, is strong, excellent bond strength, and most convienently it cures and is ready to sand in about 15 minutes. The working time is about 3-4 minutes, so you have to be prepared once you add the curitive. You should be able to find it at any automotive paint supplier. It cost about $23 a can, but goes a long way. It is very popular in our local club.

The 33% WACO cowl in the background had to be opened up a little along the trailing edge to provide adequate cooling for the RCS250. Its still pretty marginal.

WacoNut

Thanks for the tip,
I may look into getting some when I get down to the finishing.

Big_Bird

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Bob, here is the stuff we used on the Super Deke. It is a filled epoxy from Aircraft Spruce and Specialty Co. It is very easy to sand and very light.

germrb

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Ken,

Another great product! I haven't used it myself, but I have heard people speak of it. I'll get some and compare.

Stickbuilder

Dang Terry,

You don't look any younger than when I saw you at Top Gun.

Bill, Waco Brother #1

WacoNut

By looks of all you guys I am a youngster

trlambsr

Dang Bill and Anthony
That picture was taken before Top Gun
TR
brotherhood # 69

Stickbuilder

You wish!

Bill, Waco Brother #1

lrayj

Well I could not resist any longer. It got up to 40 degrees in the shop so I started playing with the Waco. I unpacked everything and started sorting the parts and setting up the wing in the jig just for fun. Nothing glued yet. Just setting up and getting ready for the first warm day. That should come later this week. Man there is a lot of wood in that box. My hat is off to AMR.

Lonnie

trlambsr

Lonnie

Welcome to the AMR/Genises Kits. You will need to early on decide how you intend to use this plane. If you are just going to be an everyday flyer with some scale detail then you will go in one direction. If you want a scale plane you will need to really do your homework. This is a great kit and will go together really easy. It is almost idiot proof.
But for scale there are lots of thing that need to be changed.
You will have fun with this one
If you need any help I have build three of these and love building there kits.
TR
Brotherhood # 69

f4you

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Waconut, THANK YOU for starting this thread, I'm building one of these and much appreciate the info!!
Actually, I have a question for those following this thread.
Has anyone else built one of these up as the "Jimmy Franklin" version (modded UPF 7 with a turbine engine between the gear legs)??
My son and I have always been huge fans of that wild machine (wish it was still around), so we're attempting the build this one as his "Waco Mystery Ship". I'm not building it as an exact scale version, but with all the photos we have just giving it a best attempt at something readily recognizable. The jet underneath might be a wee bit of a hint as to the machine we're trying to duplicate, though.
Attached is 3 photos showing the modded vertical stab and rudder, altered cockpit position for anyone interested.

lrayj

Hey TR

I plan on doing this as a Fun fly airplane with enough scale detail to add the Wow factor. As if the plane did not do that as is. I'm modeling aircraft NC14081. I'll be adding such things as panel lines screws aileron correcation and so on. Do not intend to go to the lengths Anthony has on the wing tips. I want to add enough detail to make the plane look scale without going to the master level.

Lonnie

Stickbuilder

Lonnie,

Do the wing tip mods. The model will thank you for it. It will aid in slow flight, and especially on your landings. Plus, I won't get to poke fun at the tips when I visit Hicksville. I still have kids and grandkids there. I know where you live, and I've seen where you sleep. Your kids will cry when they hear me talk about your wing tips.

Bill, Waco Brother #1

lrayj

OK Bill you got me. I don't think I could stand the abuse. I'll do the wing tips.

Lonnie

trlambsr

Lonnie
It is not as difficult as it may seem. Anthony came close. Just get in touch with me when you are ready and I will walk you through it.
tr
Brotherhood # 69

WacoNut

Close for me is good I am going to tweak them a bit more before covering.

f4you,
I see you live pretty close by, I may have to come up and see your bird when finished. I had the pleasure of seeing Jimmy Franklin perform in Dayton in 2001 I think. Its a shame he and his beautiful bird went out the way they did.

Lonnie, I wouldn't want Bill sneaking up on me[&o] The shape of the wing tips aids in slow flight handleing as well as improves the scale looks. It should lower the stall speed of the wing tips. If you tackle it early in the build you are much better off. I didn't thin my ribs out quite enough and I will try to take some more off before covering. If you do anything to hurt the scale looks of this plane you will here it from these guys Don't let all that wood intimidate you, it starts dissapearing real quick once you remove all the parts from the sheets and frame up the wings.
Later!
Anthony

lrayj

Hey TR I'm ready. I do not want to start anything on the wings until I fully understand what needs to be done on the wing tips. I like to plan things out about 10 or more steps in advance to reduce the chance of what I call do overs. I have not built a kit yet that did not have at least a half dozen do over's in them and that was with a lot of planning. That is usually because I make some modification of some kind to the kit. Like a top Flight Cessna 182 with wing tubes instead of a one piece wing. My favorite saying is "No amount of planning will ever replace pure dumb luck." Anyway I ready for anything you can throw my way to get me started on these wing tips.

Thanks in advance
Lonnie

Stickbuilder

Now,

When are you going to join the Brotherhood?

Bill, Waco Brother #1

lrayj

What do you have to do to join the Brotherhood?

Lonnie

skylarkmk1

Just ask Bill to join and he will be glad to add your name to the Waco Brotherhood list. But you gotta ask.

lrayj

Thanks John.

Hey Bill I'm asking to be added to the list.

Thanks
Lonnie