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Manfred,

Just so we understand the issues here,
Did the money you paid up front cover the complete cost including shipping to Germany?
Did you at any time change or modify the order after it was placed?

Wir konnen es nicht verstehen.

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Hi,</p>

again for clarification:</p>

- the complete kitwas paid by PayPal in September 2009
- the money for shipping were not paid because "Michael"
"Cornell", "Melanie" could not say what are the shipping
costs to Germany. The kit must be ready for weight and
dimensions! Ha, ha, ha ...
- the order was !!! never !!! changed</p>


Instead, I get only the lame excuses!
I build large-scale models for over 30 years and have also already
Kits purchased in the U.S.. But so many problems I've had it before!
I organize every year a big rc-model flight-show in Germany with
over than 10.000 visitors (see www.mbc-lehrte.de). I have contact
to professional pilotsfron all inEurope. Nobody has this problems
with a kitcutter in the U.S..</p>

I doubt also that in the photos the ribs of the Curtis P-6E are to be
seen! I have already built a 62 inch Curtis. The ribs on the photos
are almost full-symmetrical and has four longerons. The ribs of the
Curtis are half-symmetric. Also the motor firewall looks very different!</p>

I do not really know what to do!</p>

Greetings Manfred</p>

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Manfred....keep emailing him and remind him you will pursue legal action. Don't stop. If he sends you a lame excuse, Post it here for everybody to see. The only way to get your kit is to keep the pressure on him. I too had other people inquire about ordering a kit and he said he could start right away and deliver in 6 weeks. He's still taking orders even though you haven't gotten yours. Keep pushing.

steve

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Wolframs P6E is a Hostetler design.
Every designer is different in the way they design and construct an aircraft. If you look at Hostetlers picture you will see that the wings look symetrical (at least to me). Again, different designers, diffferent size planes, different airfoils, its possable that your 60 sized plane counld not support a symeterical airfoil. The "difference" in the firewall can be attributed to different construction techniques. If you think it looks like a Corsair you've never seen a Corsair firewall.
If Wolfram hasn't paid for shipping as you say, he <u>should</u> be waiting... for a long time.

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1.) Mr. Reggee, assuming your gripe has been with a biz that uses a URL "kitcutter.com", are you aware that your title for this thread is STILL incorrect? <div><ul>[*]At this moment I see the title reads "kittcutter.com". Do you see this as a misspelling? Another visitor here has mentioned this error, but you have perhaps missed it?[/list]2.) I join the rest of you guys in wishing Manfred (et al) a successful resolution to his concerns.</div><div></div><div>3.) Now gentlemen, isn't it about time we name the real culprit here? IT'S THOSE DASTARDLY "JUNIOR MISS" CONTESTANTS !!! </div><div></div><div>And since this thread has chronically indulged in misspellings, lack of research, errors of omission, and so on, allow me now to add yet another error or two: This ain't the Junior Miss competition, and it's cruel, but what the heck, she's good! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUElcQoPToY:D</div><div><div></div><div></div></div>

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John.....thank you for reminding me. I thought I had corrected it but I guess i didn't do it properly. I think it's done now. It is kitcutter.com

thanks again

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Well, I was really just wanting to post that video link again! We've all seen that video before, and/but/however... I just couldn't resist bringing her back when you related that bizarre exchange with those folks involving the words "JUNIOR MISS"! :D <div></div><div>I must say, this is one of the more wacky threads I've ever witnessed! Glad you got finally got your kit, too. Best wishes on building it, and I hope the whole vibe surrounding your build improves a million percent from here forward! To think that all of this misery came from your simple desire to build a cool model of a great ol' airplane! It can only get better from here, right?! Same for Manfred, I do hope.</div>

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yes cornell waits for a reply, but he never notifies the customer of what he is waiting for.

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Well, guys, I completely understand your gripes and complaints as I too have been waiting nearly a year to get my Fock-Wuld Ta152H from Michael. I spoke with him via phone moments ago. We'll see what gives over the next week or so. I can say, though, that my 1st kit from him was a 90" WACO (Pepino) and it's magnificent.

Larry at Precision Cut Kits does very good work as well if anybody is interested.

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I recently got my 1/3 Fleet from Precission Cut Kits. A work of art. In the long term advances in modeling I've seen is the invention of Epoxy, Monocote, CA glues, proportional FM radios, and laser cut kits. I may have missed one or two but those really stand out in my 50 years of building and flying.

Ray W.

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Larry does a really fine job at PCK for the model builders. First class in all my dealings.

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Anyone having any luck getting their kit? Michael told me I would be getting a ship date this weekend. Needless to say, it is Sunday night with no ship date. Anyone else considering legal action? My kit is well over two years in the making. I understand that mine was a difficult one (plan up-sized, improvisation and alterations necessary) but it is just silly at this point.

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I started this thread because I had waited 6 months. after a lot of harassing and bad publicity, he finally delivered. my advise is to keep hammering away at him and keep posting updates and his responses to your requests on this forum. everytime he lies to you, tell everybody and then send him a link to the forum. It'll wind him up and piss him off so much, he'll finish your kit just to get rid of you. It worked for me. Don't stop until you have a tracking no. he was reading this forum when i was full tilt and as you can see if you look back he even attacked me a few times. I got my kit. Attack!!!

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Reggee, How was the kit you received???

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Well Michael did get back to me tonight (tomorrow?). He says that he is out of 3/8th inch balsa and basswood, which my kit needs some of. However, since my kit is huge and needs more than one box to ship, he tells me that he will send me out part of the kit on Wednesday or Thursday so I can start my project. I hope so, because I am super excited to get building!

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The cutting job itself is pretty good. the wood quality is good. I'm half built but have to put it on hold for a few months. overall, the quality seems fine. the process of getting it made me hate the plane for a while:)

i'll let you know how it finishes

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Hi Guys -

I'm pleased to say that after a year of waiting, Michael has completed my Dave Anderson 114" w/s Focke-Wulfe Ta-152H. I am very pleased with the overall quality of his work and the wood. I had ordered this one at the same time that I ordered a Pepino WACO, which I received before Christmas 2009 - it too was an excellent kit.
Hopefully, maybe all his illness woes and employee troubles will now have vanished and he'll be able to start kicking out his kists again like clockwork. I would be interested in knowing more from the rest of you on your feelings regarding the kit and wood quality from him.

Tom

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This is excellent news. Hopefully this means part of my kit will go out to me this week.

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Any luck with your kits guys, I have been following this with interest

Archie<br type="_moz" />

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I started the post initially and stopped posting when i received my kit. The kit is good and well cut. It just took a lot of work and badgering to get him to deliver it. I really believe he had no intention to fill my order. he just kept feeding me excuse after excuse until i started thid thread and exposed him to the rest of the community. then he really needed me to go away. I don't know if the others got theirs or not.

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I actually got mine too. Two years waiting for it, but I got it. Some of the wood is really good, some not so good. But all usable.

Although now I've been getting spam e-mails from his e-mail address. Dunno what that is about.

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Hi Fellow Fliers -

I finally got my Focke-Wulf TA152H....BUT I was really upset because I had waited over a year for it for one and then when I got it he had given me the 94" w/s version and not the 114" w/s version that I had ordered. So yes I was fuming. On the flipside, though, he also cut me a really nice 90" w/s Pepino WACO YMF-5 biplane (which I have not yet built). Michael @ kitcutters promised he would cut me a new Meister Scale P-47 in exchange for the Focke-Wulf but refused to give me back my money for it....I opted to sell the kit and cut with my losses.

On a different note, I too am now getting spam mail from them. At one time I actually got an email from Michael stating that he was in London and lost his money and was hoping I would wire transfer some $$ to him. He claimed that his email had been hacked....but I still continue to get the SPAM.

Needless to say I went bargain shopping and hit a pawn shop. From what I can tell the WACO is a really good kit and the wood quality is nice, BUT KitCutters is not trustworthy and does not stand behind their sales. At one time (see an earlier post of mine) I was sympathetic of kitcutters, but I have no more sympathy and will never consider purchasing another kit from them. I will go back to Larry @ Precision Cut Kits!

Cheers - Tom :)

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don't you mean Kitcutter, not Kitcutters?

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Yes...my apologies! www.kitcutter.com is the one I believe we are all referring to and BTW, the website seems to be gone - at least it's no longer available - so maybe Michael is out of the business.

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OK guys.. I just came from visiting Cornell Michael kitcutting and here's the skinny....he had to shut down his web site because Kitcutters.com (yes with the s) infiltrated his site and started stealing his business (not confirmed). He also learned that people in Canada and the UK were getting into his classifieds to sell their junk thus the spam. he got infested with a virus, trojan horse or worn that also sends out those spam messages to everyone in his contact list. So again, he's not doing this purpopsely, he had to shut things down to try and get things straighten out. his balsa wood supplier also got bent out of shape thanks to the spam that he was not generating purposely. I too have been waiting for a short kit of a B25 for 2 years but I know better than you guys his real personal situation and i live with it. But yes, i agree you got to keep after him and kick him in his butt to produce. That all may change soon. he has been looking at and hopes to soon aquire a CNC router to do his cutting. I have been putting the plans onto CDs for him, so when gets the router the kits can be produced one heck of alot quicker. So for now it's a slow process doing all that cutting by hand. Would you yourself attempt to do such....I don't think so.