Replacing Tamiya Type Power Connectors
02-07-2013 | 09:57 AM
#26
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RE: Replacing Tamiya Type Power Connectors
ORIGINAL: Ronan87
Trying to ease your mind on a non-existant problem (well as much as how your car engine could explode... yes it could happen... but what are the chances?).
Those new plugs look nice, but i am not a fan of looking for solutions to non-existant problems. Deans have been working great for everyone i know for years.
I think the saying goes ''if it ain't broken, don't fix it''.
Now if you are going to try out new stuff, please do write a review, it's always good to hear from fellow tankers and new options.
A lot of people were calling out on deans being crappy. A quick research found that all of them were using cheap copies (wrong shade of red/plated material, loose connections, sensitive to hear, easy to chip/break, etc).
ALWAYS buy from a reputable dealer for parts like that or else you don't know what you are getting.
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Trying to ease your mind on a non-existant problem (well as much as how your car engine could explode... yes it could happen... but what are the chances?).
Those new plugs look nice, but i am not a fan of looking for solutions to non-existant problems. Deans have been working great for everyone i know for years.
I think the saying goes ''if it ain't broken, don't fix it''.
Now if you are going to try out new stuff, please do write a review, it's always good to hear from fellow tankers and new options.
ORIGINAL: YHR
You guys are focusing in too much on the fact I made a statement about bare conductors being around circuit boards. If you feel the hazard is low and want to discount the fact then that is fine. That still doesn't take away the fact that this is a new design that provides a nice tight connection clearly identifying positive from negative, shields the conductors completely and separates easier then a Deans connector. I have Deans connectors, I use them, I know what they are all about. I am just bringing up the fact that these new(to me) connectors look very interesting and may be intersted in buying a bunch of these. I just threw it out there to see if anyone has any personal experience with these that they want to share.
You guys are focusing in too much on the fact I made a statement about bare conductors being around circuit boards. If you feel the hazard is low and want to discount the fact then that is fine. That still doesn't take away the fact that this is a new design that provides a nice tight connection clearly identifying positive from negative, shields the conductors completely and separates easier then a Deans connector. I have Deans connectors, I use them, I know what they are all about. I am just bringing up the fact that these new(to me) connectors look very interesting and may be intersted in buying a bunch of these. I just threw it out there to see if anyone has any personal experience with these that they want to share.
ALWAYS buy from a reputable dealer for parts like that or else you don't know what you are getting.
ORIGINAL: FreakyDude
well I can say that if you are going to use XT60 connectors make sure you don't buy copies of an XT60.<div>I bought copies once and they were garbage, hated them they were so junkie</div><div>I bought some real XT60 connectors last night and they are pretty nice. </div><div>Can you believe that even small electrical connectors are copied with sub standard material? If not I have some proof they are.</div><div> </div>
well I can say that if you are going to use XT60 connectors make sure you don't buy copies of an XT60.<div>I bought copies once and they were garbage, hated them they were so junkie</div><div>I bought some real XT60 connectors last night and they are pretty nice. </div><div>Can you believe that even small electrical connectors are copied with sub standard material? If not I have some proof they are.</div><div> </div>
Innovation requires looking beyond, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. I am not bad mouthing Deans, I just want to try something different as both Tamiya and Deans don't quite fit my needs. IF you are happy with Deans then you are golden. For me , I am looking for something different.
02-07-2013 | 10:42 AM
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RE: Replacing Tamiya Type Power Connectors
I understand, i just wanted to ease your mind and other potential readers.
Deans got a bad rep a few years ago because of those fake deans out there. It got so bad it was impossible to find the real things locally because stores figured people were talking about the real thing and stop carrying them.
Like Freaky mentioned, whatever you get, make SURE you get the real thing. All of them have a cheap/fake variation out there and those are pretty bad.
Deans got a bad rep a few years ago because of those fake deans out there. It got so bad it was impossible to find the real things locally because stores figured people were talking about the real thing and stop carrying them.
Like Freaky mentioned, whatever you get, make SURE you get the real thing. All of them have a cheap/fake variation out there and those are pretty bad.
ORIGINAL: YHR
Again don't focus on my one comment about the conductor plates being exposed, that was only one minor concern I have using Deans. I am not ruling out Deans because of this. Just pointed out there is a risk that the XT60 don't present. More importantly Deans don't take to structure mounting well. There are a couple of other things as well, but the purpose of this thread was not to bad mouth Deans, but just look at what other type of connectors are out there besides Tamiya.
Innovation requires looking beyond, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. I am not bad mouthing Deans, I just want to try something different as both Tamiya and Deans don't quite fit my needs. IF you are happy with Deans then you are golden. For me , I am looking for something different.
ORIGINAL: Ronan87
Trying to ease your mind on a non-existant problem (well as much as how your car engine could explode... yes it could happen... but what are the chances?).
Those new plugs look nice, but i am not a fan of looking for solutions to non-existant problems. Deans have been working great for everyone i know for years.
I think the saying goes ''if it ain't broken, don't fix it''.
Now if you are going to try out new stuff, please do write a review, it's always good to hear from fellow tankers and new options.
A lot of people were calling out on deans being crappy. A quick research found that all of them were using cheap copies (wrong shade of red/plated material, loose connections, sensitive to hear, easy to chip/break, etc).
ALWAYS buy from a reputable dealer for parts like that or else you don't know what you are getting.
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Trying to ease your mind on a non-existant problem (well as much as how your car engine could explode... yes it could happen... but what are the chances?).
Those new plugs look nice, but i am not a fan of looking for solutions to non-existant problems. Deans have been working great for everyone i know for years.
I think the saying goes ''if it ain't broken, don't fix it''.
Now if you are going to try out new stuff, please do write a review, it's always good to hear from fellow tankers and new options.
ORIGINAL: YHR
You guys are focusing in too much on the fact I made a statement about bare conductors being around circuit boards. If you feel the hazard is low and want to discount the fact then that is fine. That still doesn't take away the fact that this is a new design that provides a nice tight connection clearly identifying positive from negative, shields the conductors completely and separates easier then a Deans connector. I have Deans connectors, I use them, I know what they are all about. I am just bringing up the fact that these new(to me) connectors look very interesting and may be intersted in buying a bunch of these. I just threw it out there to see if anyone has any personal experience with these that they want to share.
You guys are focusing in too much on the fact I made a statement about bare conductors being around circuit boards. If you feel the hazard is low and want to discount the fact then that is fine. That still doesn't take away the fact that this is a new design that provides a nice tight connection clearly identifying positive from negative, shields the conductors completely and separates easier then a Deans connector. I have Deans connectors, I use them, I know what they are all about. I am just bringing up the fact that these new(to me) connectors look very interesting and may be intersted in buying a bunch of these. I just threw it out there to see if anyone has any personal experience with these that they want to share.
ALWAYS buy from a reputable dealer for parts like that or else you don't know what you are getting.
ORIGINAL: FreakyDude
well I can say that if you are going to use XT60 connectors make sure you don't buy copies of an XT60.<div>I bought copies once and they were garbage, hated them they were so junkie</div><div>I bought some real XT60 connectors last night and they are pretty nice.</div><div>Can you believe that even small electrical connectors are copied with sub standard material? If not I have some proof they are.</div><div></div>
well I can say that if you are going to use XT60 connectors make sure you don't buy copies of an XT60.<div>I bought copies once and they were garbage, hated them they were so junkie</div><div>I bought some real XT60 connectors last night and they are pretty nice.</div><div>Can you believe that even small electrical connectors are copied with sub standard material? If not I have some proof they are.</div><div></div>
Innovation requires looking beyond, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. I am not bad mouthing Deans, I just want to try something different as both Tamiya and Deans don't quite fit my needs. IF you are happy with Deans then you are golden. For me , I am looking for something different.
02-07-2013 | 10:44 AM
#28
RE: Replacing Tamiya Type Power Connectors
ORIGINAL: YHR
Again don't focus on my one comment about the conductor plates being exposed, that was only one minor concern I have using Deans. I am not ruling out Deans because of this. Just pointed out there is a risk that the XT60 don't present. More importantly Deans don't take to structure mounting well. There are a couple of other things as well, but the purpose of this thread was not to bad mouth Deans, but just look at what other type of connectors are out there besides Tamiya.
Innovation requires looking beyond, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. I am not bad mouthing Deans, I just want to try something different as both Tamiya and Deans don't quite fit my needs. IF you are happy with Deans then you are golden. For me , I am looking for something different.
ORIGINAL: Ronan87
Trying to ease your mind on a non-existant problem (well as much as how your car engine could explode... yes it could happen... but what are the chances?).
Those new plugs look nice, but i am not a fan of looking for solutions to non-existant problems. Deans have been working great for everyone i know for years.
I think the saying goes ''if it ain't broken, don't fix it''.
Now if you are going to try out new stuff, please do write a review, it's always good to hear from fellow tankers and new options.
A lot of people were calling out on deans being crappy. A quick research found that all of them were using cheap copies (wrong shade of red/plated material, loose connections, sensitive to hear, easy to chip/break, etc).
ALWAYS buy from a reputable dealer for parts like that or else you don't know what you are getting.
<br type=''_moz'' />
Trying to ease your mind on a non-existant problem (well as much as how your car engine could explode... yes it could happen... but what are the chances?).
Those new plugs look nice, but i am not a fan of looking for solutions to non-existant problems. Deans have been working great for everyone i know for years.
I think the saying goes ''if it ain't broken, don't fix it''.
Now if you are going to try out new stuff, please do write a review, it's always good to hear from fellow tankers and new options.
ORIGINAL: YHR
You guys are focusing in too much on the fact I made a statement about bare conductors being around circuit boards. If you feel the hazard is low and want to discount the fact then that is fine. That still doesn't take away the fact that this is a new design that provides a nice tight connection clearly identifying positive from negative, shields the conductors completely and separates easier then a Deans connector. I have Deans connectors, I use them, I know what they are all about. I am just bringing up the fact that these new(to me) connectors look very interesting and may be intersted in buying a bunch of these. I just threw it out there to see if anyone has any personal experience with these that they want to share.
You guys are focusing in too much on the fact I made a statement about bare conductors being around circuit boards. If you feel the hazard is low and want to discount the fact then that is fine. That still doesn't take away the fact that this is a new design that provides a nice tight connection clearly identifying positive from negative, shields the conductors completely and separates easier then a Deans connector. I have Deans connectors, I use them, I know what they are all about. I am just bringing up the fact that these new(to me) connectors look very interesting and may be intersted in buying a bunch of these. I just threw it out there to see if anyone has any personal experience with these that they want to share.
ALWAYS buy from a reputable dealer for parts like that or else you don't know what you are getting.
ORIGINAL: FreakyDude
well I can say that if you are going to use XT60 connectors make sure you don't buy copies of an XT60.<div>I bought copies once and they were garbage, hated them they were so junkie</div><div>I bought some real XT60 connectors last night and they are pretty nice. </div><div>Can you believe that even small electrical connectors are copied with sub standard material? If not I have some proof they are.</div><div> </div>
well I can say that if you are going to use XT60 connectors make sure you don't buy copies of an XT60.<div>I bought copies once and they were garbage, hated them they were so junkie</div><div>I bought some real XT60 connectors last night and they are pretty nice. </div><div>Can you believe that even small electrical connectors are copied with sub standard material? If not I have some proof they are.</div><div> </div>
Innovation requires looking beyond, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. I am not bad mouthing Deans, I just want to try something different as both Tamiya and Deans don't quite fit my needs. IF you are happy with Deans then you are golden. For me , I am looking for something different.
Okay, okay... Don't get yourself all worked up there little buddy.
And Ronan87... you and I think alike.
Yeah, I know that sounds scary. 
~ Jeff
02-07-2013 | 10:50 AM
#29
RE: Replacing Tamiya Type Power Connectors
Jeff <div></div><div>For anyone interested in deans, i have used those housing very successfully:http://www.hdiproducts.com/</div><div></div><div>How to test your XT-60:</div><div></div><div>.jpg)
</div><div></div><div>*Improper color shade
*Not heat resistant</div><div>*Thinner 'walls'</div><div>*Letters/Numbers inscriptions aren't 'sharp'</div>
<div></div><div>For anyone interested in deans, i have used those housing very successfully:http://www.hdiproducts.com/</div><div></div><div>How to test your XT-60:</div><div></div><div></div><div></div><div>*Improper color shade*Not heat resistant</div><div>*Thinner 'walls'</div><div>*Letters/Numbers inscriptions aren't 'sharp'</div>
02-07-2013 | 10:54 AM
#30
RE: Replacing Tamiya Type Power Connectors
Ronan87,
Just about to post the same pict!
Also, be on the lookout for fake Deans Connectors
http://helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=248743
Just about to post the same pict!
Also, be on the lookout for fake Deans Connectors
http://helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=248743
02-07-2013 | 01:20 PM
#31
RE: Replacing Tamiya Type Power Connectors
Those are nasty one's that cost deans a lot of customers. Lots of people on ebay selling them as the real thing and it was a catastrophe.
ORIGINAL: ksoc
Ronan87,
Just about to post the same pict!
Also, be on the lookout for fake Deans Connectors
http://helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=248743
Ronan87,
Just about to post the same pict!
Also, be on the lookout for fake Deans Connectors
http://helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=248743
02-08-2013 | 04:54 AM
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RE: Replacing Tamiya Type Power Connectors
Hmmm...
Been debating switching aall my plugs over, and I have a relevant question: What about Tamiya warranty? Does changing the wires (as thats not the best either) and the plugs void the warranty? I've delayed altering all my plugs on my DMD & MF units because of this, but if we don't necessarily void the warranty, we should be able to swap over to the better silicone-coated wiring and better plugs.
Anyone asked Tamiya about this, and if so, what was their answer...
WhiteWolf
(thinking of going with the (*whoops*) EC3's)
Been debating switching aall my plugs over, and I have a relevant question: What about Tamiya warranty? Does changing the wires (as thats not the best either) and the plugs void the warranty? I've delayed altering all my plugs on my DMD & MF units because of this, but if we don't necessarily void the warranty, we should be able to swap over to the better silicone-coated wiring and better plugs.
Anyone asked Tamiya about this, and if so, what was their answer...
WhiteWolf
(thinking of going with the (*whoops*) EC3's)
02-08-2013 | 04:58 AM
#33
RE: Replacing Tamiya Type Power Connectors
Nope. I've heard of tankers sending them in with different types of connectors and they still warranted them.
~ Jeff
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02-08-2013 | 05:03 AM
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RE: Replacing Tamiya Type Power Connectors
Panther F:
And replaced silicone wires to? Thats part of my beef. After a season, the things stiffen up, and the casings sometimes crack. Serious pain in the tush.
Nice to know about the plugs though. Hope the Canadian rep is as understanding (Borgfeldt Canada) though I'd sooner send mine to Tamiya USA in Calif.
WhiteWolf
And replaced silicone wires to? Thats part of my beef. After a season, the things stiffen up, and the casings sometimes crack. Serious pain in the tush.
Nice to know about the plugs though. Hope the Canadian rep is as understanding (Borgfeldt Canada) though I'd sooner send mine to Tamiya USA in Calif.
WhiteWolf
02-08-2013 | 05:34 AM
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RE: Replacing Tamiya Type Power Connectors
Well, here's the deal. I've only heard positive things when it only involved the replaced connectors.
I have been around RC electronics enough that I know there is nothing gained by replacing the lead wires from the Tamiya electronics and when such a short piece of wire too. AND, there is little gained by replacing the motor wires too, unless we're talking about a total re-wire.
But trust me, if the failure surrounds something that we changed I bet there will not be a warranty at all.
So make sure your little soldering job is right.
~ Jeff
I have been around RC electronics enough that I know there is nothing gained by replacing the lead wires from the Tamiya electronics and when such a short piece of wire too. AND, there is little gained by replacing the motor wires too, unless we're talking about a total re-wire.
But trust me, if the failure surrounds something that we changed I bet there will not be a warranty at all.
So make sure your little soldering job is right.
~ Jeff
02-20-2013 | 12:57 PM
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RE: Replacing Tamiya Type Power Connectors
Just received my order of the XT-60 and I cannot see anything wrong that jumps out at me. They slide in and out nicely and the 'connector' part is not loose but firm in the base.
Only now to see if they pass the soldering test but I know how to solder so I doubt I'll melt them.
I have a few tanks coming down the assembly line so to not waste them (I ordered only 2 pair and they sent me all these) I'll try 'em out! (But not in my Panther)
~ Jeff
Only now to see if they pass the soldering test but I know how to solder so I doubt I'll melt them.
I have a few tanks coming down the assembly line so to not waste them (I ordered only 2 pair and they sent me all these) I'll try 'em out!
(But not in my Panther)~ Jeff
02-20-2013 | 01:57 PM
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RE: Replacing Tamiya Type Power Connectors
ORIGINAL: ksoc
Jeff,
Do you have any Deans connectors you can place them next to for a size comp?
Thanks
Jeff,
Do you have any Deans connectors you can place them next to for a size comp?
Thanks
Me? Have Deans? But of course I have Deans!
I build tanks, don't I?
~ Jeff
02-20-2013 | 05:15 PM
#39
RE: Replacing Tamiya Type Power Connectors
By the way, any of you 'domestic' tankers here in the states want these PM me and with 8 bucks I'll drop 'em in the mail.
All of my batteries have Deans, so I am not switching over.
~ Jeff
All of my batteries have Deans, so I am not switching over.
~ Jeff
02-24-2013 | 07:41 PM
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RE: Replacing Tamiya Type Power Connectors
Just thought I'd update what I chose as a replacement for my Tamiya style plugs.
I purchased 20 pairs of EC3 connectors from Hobby King, which came in 2 bags of 10 pairs.
The only bad thing was that my order had QC issues, because in one bag someone only counted to 10 female connector pins, rather than the 20 I should have received to complete 10 pairs of plugs
The good thing is, that after a few pictures of what I received, & an email to Hobby King, a couple days later they have given me store credit enough to purchase another entire bag of the EC3 plugs.
So I can't complete 5 of the 10 plugs from the one bag because they aren't sending 10 female pins out to me, but they responded quickly & I'm OK with how they handled it with credit this time ... just hope this doesn't happen often with future orders.
Below is just a shot of all the EC3 plugs & what I already completed with several change overs on my batteries, charger connectors, & one tank ... minus the 10 missing female ends
The below image is the new connector in my KV-1 ... & I really like them. Very easy to solder to pins, easy to put together, the plugs prevent misalignment issues, & they connect very tightly with great pin contact.
They don't pull apart & release as easily as the Tamiya style plugs that I had, & I do have to wiggle them a bit when pulling them apart, but at least they aren't loose & I can get them apart with my hands easily enough for me without tugging on the wires themselves.
So rather than experiment more with another plug like the XT-60, I'm going to stick to using these going forward, because a couple of my Tamiya style plugs were already giving me connection issues, & these seem like a good enough replacement.
~ Craig ~
I purchased 20 pairs of EC3 connectors from Hobby King, which came in 2 bags of 10 pairs.
The only bad thing was that my order had QC issues, because in one bag someone only counted to 10 female connector pins, rather than the 20 I should have received to complete 10 pairs of plugs
The good thing is, that after a few pictures of what I received, & an email to Hobby King, a couple days later they have given me store credit enough to purchase another entire bag of the EC3 plugs.
So I can't complete 5 of the 10 plugs from the one bag because they aren't sending 10 female pins out to me, but they responded quickly & I'm OK with how they handled it with credit this time ... just hope this doesn't happen often with future orders.
Below is just a shot of all the EC3 plugs & what I already completed with several change overs on my batteries, charger connectors, & one tank ... minus the 10 missing female ends
The below image is the new connector in my KV-1 ... & I really like them. Very easy to solder to pins, easy to put together, the plugs prevent misalignment issues, & they connect very tightly with great pin contact.
They don't pull apart & release as easily as the Tamiya style plugs that I had, & I do have to wiggle them a bit when pulling them apart, but at least they aren't loose & I can get them apart with my hands easily enough for me without tugging on the wires themselves.
So rather than experiment more with another plug like the XT-60, I'm going to stick to using these going forward, because a couple of my Tamiya style plugs were already giving me connection issues, & these seem like a good enough replacement.
~ Craig ~
