reyemmanuel

hiramekisama

Dear God, it shall be a disaster.

Four grown men. Four conflicting opinions. One tank.

herrmill

Sounds interesting & similar to what my sons & I would do while playing Red Orchestra.

Question would be where are you going to find enough people at your typical battle day to crew more than one or two tanks?

reyemmanuel

Hi hiramekisama, lol, make it 4 grown boys...
and yes, it'll be interesting to see. if all fails, blame it on the TC. hehehehe. We'll this is where the "tank commander" comes into play, to make a decision out of the opinions.

On the brighter side, there'll be limited F1 tank races, swing shots and tricks become quite impossible to pull off. Careful planning and teamwork becomes essential.

reyemmanuel

Hi herrmill,
at least two tanks are needed andat least two persons per tank. So, at least 4 persons must be in attendance. TC-Gunner-Loader can function as one and another for the Driver.

Panther F

I agree! Sounds like someone just needs to get a REAL tank and have at it.

RC tanks are for one person! Learn it, live it, love it.














~ Jeff

FreakyDude

why would I share the duties of a tank? especially if i was stuck being a loader or something. the only good spot in this scenario is being the driver

TheBennyB

This was done at Danville years ago in a sense. Not the 4 person per tank, but lower hull and turret on 2 different TX's. And as you'd think, it was hilarious to watch.
out of 6 or so teams of 2, only 2-3 teams could operate with any combat effectiveness. As for fan shots or anything else being nullified by this......not gonna happen.
Just as easy to do any of these with experienced drivers.

pattoncommander

Sounds interesting but a bit of overkill. Only need 2 per tank; TC and driver as the TC can override and operate turret controls. Loader in this case is redundant. The TC not only selects targets, directs and lays the gun, but tells the driver where to go and guide where needed and prevents bayonetting the birms and bushes with the long guns by traversing as the tank maneuvers. He also has the responsibility of evading enemy threats. A real TC is a very busy job.

Better would be a dual camera system on the tank; one for driver and one for TC/Gunner, with the operators having an extremely limited view of the field. ....this would eliminate peeking over hills, looking around corners and yelling at buddies about that enemy tank behind him....it would make the operation very much more realistic, giving the tank crew pretty much what a real tank crew experiences. This however, would require using tank tactics and team operation which would render most RC "Tankers" totally ineffective. More effective would be to have main gun IR beam function directly through the gun tube, requiring a more precise lay of the gun which would iliminate fan shots. As with any team effort, it would take a little training/practice but the results would be rewarding and much more realistic.

Japan has similar setups which seem to work quite well.

herrmill

Great idea, Bill - follow the KISS principle & I'd think this would be something that would fit in well as part of any club event. Could be fun.

I can see everyone standing around with their display googles on in a Zero Dark Thirty kind of way.

reyemmanuel

thanks for the response guys.indeed 4 is overkill for regular multiple crew battles, but becomes handy when involving spectators. I'ved modified the title to reflect this.

Hi Panther F, I disagree that rc tanks are only for a single person as this is not the case for my KT. As my commander in chief only wants to drive, I had to set-up dual controls for this particular tank. She drives, I shoot. Makes funding tank projects easier to get approved.

Hi Freakudude, this becomes a personal choice whether or not one wants to share duties. I agree, the driver and TC are whats necessary. The three/four-man crew is only an idea to involve spectators. Regular batles can be one man or two-man crewed.

Hi TheBennyB, thats good to know! Equally interesting is what you've mentioned abouot "combat effectiveness" as this becomes key. It is however not good to know
that swing shot still was a go, perhaps put an less experienced tanker as the driver. Was there any record of this event, photos, videos or battle reports?-would be interesting to see!

Hi pattoncommander, yes I agree to a 2-man crew. Interesting to note from you having noted "require using tank tactics and team operation[/b]which would render most RC "Tankers" totally ineffective." Good to know this makes RC tank battling more rewarding and realistic. As it seems, once the novelty of lone ranger tanker fades, some tankers fall out of the hobby. I would say the panzerwarriors are at the pinnacle in FPV battling and quite hard to replicate. On the other hand, RC tank battling in Danville really represents the team oriented side of battles. I would love to see a competition battles based on multiple-crewed rc tanks. As for taking it further for FPV,a fat-shark may be in the pipes...

thanks guys for the inputs.