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Just found this http://webridestv.com/movie_v3.aspx?movieid=236 Marine Corps M1A1 at 29 Palms.
Okay, I'm done now, back to what I was doing before, getting ready for Lake Tahoe and the Sierra Nevada Mountains this weekend!
Will
Okay, I'm done now, back to what I was doing before, getting ready for Lake Tahoe and the Sierra Nevada Mountains this weekend!
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Actually...
Last I heard, there is distinct possibility they may not go after all, as there is a nasty problem with A/C units. the Auzzies equipped theirs with units, but they may not be compatible.
Last word I read from various sources is that if they go, they won't be run during the heat of the day, just evening through night to the next morning.
Guess we'll see what happens. Wonder if anyone will make some more 1A4 conversion sets (besides AFV's expensive 1A5 turret) like a recovery hull. Seen people do it home-grown, but none for production.
Last I heard, there is distinct possibility they may not go after all, as there is a nasty problem with A/C units. the Auzzies equipped theirs with units, but they may not be compatible.
Last word I read from various sources is that if they go, they won't be run during the heat of the day, just evening through night to the next morning.
Guess we'll see what happens. Wonder if anyone will make some more 1A4 conversion sets (besides AFV's expensive 1A5 turret) like a recovery hull. Seen people do it home-grown, but none for production.
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Hey Capn, remember that turret mod I told you about last summer? I had photos of it posted but since removed them when updating my site, now its back up
http://www.pbase.com/calvinwill/gall...t_modification scroll thru the photos to read the captions.
The modification is so effective, I no longer need the locks, in fact, I haven't used them in over a year! I just now filled and painted over the holes for the locks, it looks a whole lot better, no more unsightly holes in the turret, now I can display the Leopard with the panels open.
Will
http://www.pbase.com/calvinwill/gall...t_modification scroll thru the photos to read the captions.
The modification is so effective, I no longer need the locks, in fact, I haven't used them in over a year! I just now filled and painted over the holes for the locks, it looks a whole lot better, no more unsightly holes in the turret, now I can display the Leopard with the panels open.
Will
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Turret locks.
I just got my Leo yesterday and I had no idea what those things were. They were just setting in one of the baskets (used tank). I noticed that the back end of my turret does not stay together very well because of the wire bundles, so I appreciate the idea, too!
Chad
I just got my Leo yesterday and I had no idea what those things were. They were just setting in one of the baskets (used tank). I noticed that the back end of my turret does not stay together very well because of the wire bundles, so I appreciate the idea, too! Chad
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They have arrived http://www.armyrecognition.com/forum...hp?p=3365#3365
Those white supports on the turret are for the slat armor http://www.armyrecognition.com/News/...st_2007_UK.htm
Yet another version of this powerful tank to model using the Tamiya kit.
Will
Those white supports on the turret are for the slat armor http://www.armyrecognition.com/News/...st_2007_UK.htm
Yet another version of this powerful tank to model using the Tamiya kit.
Will
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Good question, I don't know but maybe:
Could serve as partial protection from RPGs or
Used in someway as tools, maybe if a tank were to get stuck in mud or deep sand, they would use to them to get traction by laying them down in front of the tracks.
But if it were my choice and I were a Leopard crew member in a war zone, I would leave them on, one day they could come in handy for something[8D]
Will
Could serve as partial protection from RPGs or
Used in someway as tools, maybe if a tank were to get stuck in mud or deep sand, they would use to them to get traction by laying them down in front of the tracks.
But if it were my choice and I were a Leopard crew member in a war zone, I would leave them on, one day they could come in handy for something[8D]
Will
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Probably easier to leave them on as it is to store them somewhere also you know what squaddies are like if its not nailed down it goes walkies



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Here are some more photos showing the slat armor and its supports: http://s87.photobucket.com/albums/k130/ldshrecceboy/
click twice on the photo to get the largest image.
Will
click twice on the photo to get the largest image.
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Here are some more photos showing the slat armor and its supports: http://s87.photobucket.com/albums/k130/ldshrecceboy/
click twice on the photo to get the largest image.
Will
click twice on the photo to get the largest image.
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Here are some Hi Res photos from combat camera of the Canadian Leopard A6M
http://www.combatcamera.forces.gc.ca...e=combatcamera
http://www.combatcamera.forces.gc.ca...e=combatcamera
http://www.combatcamera.forces.gc.ca...e=combatcamera
http://www.combatcamera.forces.gc.ca...e=combatcamera
http://www.combatcamera.forces.gc.ca...e=combatcamera
And couple of videos
http://youtube.com/watch?v=rfRauhF0x...elated&search=
http://youtube.com/watch?v=XtxCmQi85AE
You may want to check the above photobucket link, ldshrecceboy is always updating his page with new images.
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Leo endurance test, take 2.
Last year I did this http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_4470921/tm.htm
Today, Nov 12, I repeated the test using the same battery, I was curious to see how much the battery degraded.
The first test the Leopard was stock (10 1/2 lbs), no added weight, GBS and lights off and sound volume set to 25% and you can read the results.
The second test the same Leopard has 20 ounces up front, added for increased traction and handling (it was 30 ounces, but I removed one weight pack, each pack weighs 10 ounces) for a total weight of just under 12 lbs, and the sound volume was set to 100% or full volume, very loud indeed!
The results?
Time start: 9:51:30
Time ended: 10:30:06
Here's the most important result, distance traveled: 6 1/2 laps
Throttle, first two laps about 80 to 85% to match my normal walking speed, shortly after I had to increased throttle to 100% for the Leopard to maintain the same speed, it did so for the next 4 and 1/2 laps. As I approached the final half lap, the Leo slowed downed, almost to a crawl, but keep going until about three car lengths past the halfway point, it shut down.
In the first test I went 9 1/2 laps and 57 minutes before the battery drained, that was because I was traveling at a slower speed (70 to 75% throttle the whole test). Two reasons for this, the Leopard was stock weight, about 10 1/2 lbs, and 2, I am in better shape now than I was at that time, so I walked a slightly faster pace for todays test.
To summarize, I traveled 6 1/2 laps while carrying just under 2 lbs more weight while traveling at Full Throttle for 70% of the time, this tells me that the DTX 3800, after almost two years of use, is still in fine shape.
Will
Last year I did this http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_4470921/tm.htm
Today, Nov 12, I repeated the test using the same battery, I was curious to see how much the battery degraded.
The first test the Leopard was stock (10 1/2 lbs), no added weight, GBS and lights off and sound volume set to 25% and you can read the results.
The second test the same Leopard has 20 ounces up front, added for increased traction and handling (it was 30 ounces, but I removed one weight pack, each pack weighs 10 ounces) for a total weight of just under 12 lbs, and the sound volume was set to 100% or full volume, very loud indeed!
The results?
Time start: 9:51:30
Time ended: 10:30:06
Here's the most important result, distance traveled: 6 1/2 laps
Throttle, first two laps about 80 to 85% to match my normal walking speed, shortly after I had to increased throttle to 100% for the Leopard to maintain the same speed, it did so for the next 4 and 1/2 laps. As I approached the final half lap, the Leo slowed downed, almost to a crawl, but keep going until about three car lengths past the halfway point, it shut down.
In the first test I went 9 1/2 laps and 57 minutes before the battery drained, that was because I was traveling at a slower speed (70 to 75% throttle the whole test). Two reasons for this, the Leopard was stock weight, about 10 1/2 lbs, and 2, I am in better shape now than I was at that time, so I walked a slightly faster pace for todays test.
To summarize, I traveled 6 1/2 laps while carrying just under 2 lbs more weight while traveling at Full Throttle for 70% of the time, this tells me that the DTX 3800, after almost two years of use, is still in fine shape.
Will
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There will be an Leo Endurance Test 3 using this;
http://www.a123racing.com/racingpacks/ht2s2p.html
Along with these http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXGE34&P=7 and http://www.hobbypeople.net/gallery/855034.asp
I will throughly test these products, sometime in Jan 08.
I was going to order this http://www.sonderfahrzeug-modellbau.de/produkta3.htm but that will wait until summer. I instead will order another Leo and that will become a Canadian 2A6M, I have to have one of these, no matter what.
Starting in Jan 08, this thread will be very busy, Greek HEL 2, Canadian 2A6M, new batteries and motors, time to start ordering spare parts!!
Will
http://www.a123racing.com/racingpacks/ht2s2p.html
Along with these http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXGE34&P=7 and http://www.hobbypeople.net/gallery/855034.asp
I will throughly test these products, sometime in Jan 08.
I was going to order this http://www.sonderfahrzeug-modellbau.de/produkta3.htm but that will wait until summer. I instead will order another Leo and that will become a Canadian 2A6M, I have to have one of these, no matter what.
Starting in Jan 08, this thread will be very busy, Greek HEL 2, Canadian 2A6M, new batteries and motors, time to start ordering spare parts!!
Will
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Will,
I was just going through your pbase(?) gallery and noticed that you removed the turret locks. What keeps the side armor panels from swinging open? Friction?
Also, hope the conversions are going well.
I was just going through your pbase(?) gallery and noticed that you removed the turret locks. What keeps the side armor panels from swinging open? Friction?
Also, hope the conversions are going well.
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This Leo is back in business!
Last Fall, it got to the point where over half the road arms had snapped and had been glued, re glued, and glued again. Got tired of messing with it and just stopped running it all together. Put it up and occasionally ran the KT, instead. Just wasn't the same, though. At one point I had even thought about getting rid of it and buying a newer FO Tamiya!
So, thanks to ETO Armor, I recently ordered the Impact road arms as well as the Shumo improved track tensioner/idler set. What a difference!
Even though gluing the stock arms solved the problem of the cracking to an extent, they still had enough of a gap that the road arms were not as tight on the mounts as like brand new. This also helped pry them apart in other places as they were rotating and banging on the mounts instead of grabbing them tightly like they should. It became a mess I couldn't correct without new parts.
The Impact arms needed some clean-up of flash in the mounting areas, but that is to be expected. It wasn't much, but just enough to scrape up the plastic mounts and make them hard to get off (probably wouldn't be that big a deal on the metal replacement mounts). Anyway, they are much better than plastic arms, by a long shot. The tank sits like it did when it was first built!
On to the Shumo Idlers...
Why put these on? Good question. Without going into a fifteen minute back and forth debate in my head (converted to text) on the differences of older tank suspensions vs. newer ones..... I like my Leopard track tight! Not somewhere in between tight and grinding the tops of the shock mounts down.
The Shumo Kit requires you to file on the Leopard hull.... WHAT?? You want me to do what?
Once you look at both the old parts and the place in the Leo hull where they go, you realize why. You aren't making some new pattern for the new parts to fit, but merely removing the sloping mold release shapes from the inside of the mounting holes in the hull. They slope inward making the backside of the hole pattern smaller than the outside. If you take the Shumo parts and try to put them in from the outside of the hull, they almost go in! (Don't do this. It's kind of hard to get them back out if you put too much pressure on them). So, being careful not to enlarge the outside pattern too much, I took a small file and removed the slope slowly, checking often to see if the parts would go in. If you're lucky, they'll be a little tight fitting.
On to the idler arms. These gave me fits getting the road wheel axles to go in. And once they went in, they aren't coming out without a fight! So, make sure to put the allen screws that mount to the tank in first, like the directions that come with the kit say! As for the cap that covers the allen screw hole, I left it off. Can't see it once the whole thing is assembled, anyway. Maybe later.
The range of idler positions is much better. Also, I ended up adding the old cap (MH5) to the inside stack on the allen screw. Instead of turning that lock nut a gazillion times, five or six turns and it's tight.
None of the new parts are painted yet, but eventually they will be painted.
Maybe... If I stop running it long enought to!
Last Fall, it got to the point where over half the road arms had snapped and had been glued, re glued, and glued again. Got tired of messing with it and just stopped running it all together. Put it up and occasionally ran the KT, instead. Just wasn't the same, though. At one point I had even thought about getting rid of it and buying a newer FO Tamiya!
So, thanks to ETO Armor, I recently ordered the Impact road arms as well as the Shumo improved track tensioner/idler set. What a difference!
Even though gluing the stock arms solved the problem of the cracking to an extent, they still had enough of a gap that the road arms were not as tight on the mounts as like brand new. This also helped pry them apart in other places as they were rotating and banging on the mounts instead of grabbing them tightly like they should. It became a mess I couldn't correct without new parts.
The Impact arms needed some clean-up of flash in the mounting areas, but that is to be expected. It wasn't much, but just enough to scrape up the plastic mounts and make them hard to get off (probably wouldn't be that big a deal on the metal replacement mounts). Anyway, they are much better than plastic arms, by a long shot. The tank sits like it did when it was first built!
On to the Shumo Idlers...
Why put these on? Good question. Without going into a fifteen minute back and forth debate in my head (converted to text) on the differences of older tank suspensions vs. newer ones..... I like my Leopard track tight! Not somewhere in between tight and grinding the tops of the shock mounts down.
The Shumo Kit requires you to file on the Leopard hull.... WHAT?? You want me to do what?

Once you look at both the old parts and the place in the Leo hull where they go, you realize why. You aren't making some new pattern for the new parts to fit, but merely removing the sloping mold release shapes from the inside of the mounting holes in the hull. They slope inward making the backside of the hole pattern smaller than the outside. If you take the Shumo parts and try to put them in from the outside of the hull, they almost go in! (Don't do this. It's kind of hard to get them back out if you put too much pressure on them). So, being careful not to enlarge the outside pattern too much, I took a small file and removed the slope slowly, checking often to see if the parts would go in. If you're lucky, they'll be a little tight fitting.
On to the idler arms. These gave me fits getting the road wheel axles to go in. And once they went in, they aren't coming out without a fight! So, make sure to put the allen screws that mount to the tank in first, like the directions that come with the kit say! As for the cap that covers the allen screw hole, I left it off. Can't see it once the whole thing is assembled, anyway. Maybe later.
The range of idler positions is much better. Also, I ended up adding the old cap (MH5) to the inside stack on the allen screw. Instead of turning that lock nut a gazillion times, five or six turns and it's tight.
None of the new parts are painted yet, but eventually they will be painted.
Maybe... If I stop running it long enought to!

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This Leo is back in business!
Last Fall, it got to the point where over half the road arms had snapped and had been glued, re glued, and glued again. Got tired of messing with it and just stopped running it all together. Put it up and occasionally ran the KT, instead. Just wasn't the same, though. At one point I had even thought about getting rid of it and buying a newer FO Tamiya!
So, thanks to ETO Armor, I recently ordered the Impact road arms as well as the Shumo improved track tensioner/idler set. What a difference!
Even though gluing the stock arms solved the problem of the cracking to an extent, they still had enough of a gap that the road arms were not as tight on the mounts as like brand new. This also helped pry them apart in other places as they were rotating and banging on the mounts instead of grabbing them tightly like they should. It became a mess I couldn't correct without new parts.
The Impact arms needed some clean-up of flash in the mounting areas, but that is to be expected. It wasn't much, but just enough to scrape up the plastic mounts and make them hard to get off (probably wouldn't be that big a deal on the metal replacement mounts). Anyway, they are much better than plastic arms, by a long shot. The tank sits like it did when it was first built!
On to the Shumo Idlers...
Why put these on? Good question. Without going into a fifteen minute back and forth debate in my head (converted to text) on the differences of older tank suspensions vs. newer ones..... I like my Leopard track tight! Not somewhere in between tight and grinding the tops of the shock mounts down.
The Shumo Kit requires you to file on the Leopard hull.... WHAT?? You want me to do what?
Once you look at both the old parts and the place in the Leo hull where they go, you realize why. You aren't making some new pattern for the new parts to fit, but merely removing the sloping mold release shapes from the inside of the mounting holes in the hull. They slope inward making the backside of the hole pattern smaller than the outside. If you take the Shumo parts and try to put them in from the outside of the hull, they almost go in! (Don't do this. It's kind of hard to get them back out if you put too much pressure on them). So, being careful not to enlarge the outside pattern too much, I took a small file and removed the slope slowly, checking often to see if the parts would go in. If you're lucky, they'll be a little tight fitting.
On to the idler arms. These gave me fits getting the road wheel axles to go in. And once they went in, they aren't coming out without a fight! So, make sure to put the allen screws that mount to the tank in first, like the directions that come with the kit say! As for the cap that covers the allen screw hole, I left it off. Can't see it once the whole thing is assembled, anyway. Maybe later.
The range of idler positions is much better. Also, I ended up adding the old cap (MH5) to the inside stack on the allen screw. Instead of turning that lock nut a gazillion times, five or six turns and it's tight.
None of the new parts are painted yet, but eventually they will be painted.
Maybe... If I stop running it long enought to!
This Leo is back in business!
Last Fall, it got to the point where over half the road arms had snapped and had been glued, re glued, and glued again. Got tired of messing with it and just stopped running it all together. Put it up and occasionally ran the KT, instead. Just wasn't the same, though. At one point I had even thought about getting rid of it and buying a newer FO Tamiya!
So, thanks to ETO Armor, I recently ordered the Impact road arms as well as the Shumo improved track tensioner/idler set. What a difference!
Even though gluing the stock arms solved the problem of the cracking to an extent, they still had enough of a gap that the road arms were not as tight on the mounts as like brand new. This also helped pry them apart in other places as they were rotating and banging on the mounts instead of grabbing them tightly like they should. It became a mess I couldn't correct without new parts.
The Impact arms needed some clean-up of flash in the mounting areas, but that is to be expected. It wasn't much, but just enough to scrape up the plastic mounts and make them hard to get off (probably wouldn't be that big a deal on the metal replacement mounts). Anyway, they are much better than plastic arms, by a long shot. The tank sits like it did when it was first built!
On to the Shumo Idlers...
Why put these on? Good question. Without going into a fifteen minute back and forth debate in my head (converted to text) on the differences of older tank suspensions vs. newer ones..... I like my Leopard track tight! Not somewhere in between tight and grinding the tops of the shock mounts down.
The Shumo Kit requires you to file on the Leopard hull.... WHAT?? You want me to do what?

Once you look at both the old parts and the place in the Leo hull where they go, you realize why. You aren't making some new pattern for the new parts to fit, but merely removing the sloping mold release shapes from the inside of the mounting holes in the hull. They slope inward making the backside of the hole pattern smaller than the outside. If you take the Shumo parts and try to put them in from the outside of the hull, they almost go in! (Don't do this. It's kind of hard to get them back out if you put too much pressure on them). So, being careful not to enlarge the outside pattern too much, I took a small file and removed the slope slowly, checking often to see if the parts would go in. If you're lucky, they'll be a little tight fitting.
On to the idler arms. These gave me fits getting the road wheel axles to go in. And once they went in, they aren't coming out without a fight! So, make sure to put the allen screws that mount to the tank in first, like the directions that come with the kit say! As for the cap that covers the allen screw hole, I left it off. Can't see it once the whole thing is assembled, anyway. Maybe later.
The range of idler positions is much better. Also, I ended up adding the old cap (MH5) to the inside stack on the allen screw. Instead of turning that lock nut a gazillion times, five or six turns and it's tight.
None of the new parts are painted yet, but eventually they will be painted.
Maybe... If I stop running it long enought to!

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Damn...
Now I have to save $ (and limit improvements to the other 5 tanks) so I can buy a Leo to make a C2 to go with my proposed C1 (have a pair of 1A4's in various stages of refit)
Will have to read through the forum to make a list of the needed/suggested alterations to the kit (like suspension arms, turret assembly, etc.)
WhiteWolf McBride
still looking to visit the CMW a ~first~ time even though its only a few miles away...
Now I have to save $ (and limit improvements to the other 5 tanks) so I can buy a Leo to make a C2 to go with my proposed C1 (have a pair of 1A4's in various stages of refit)
Will have to read through the forum to make a list of the needed/suggested alterations to the kit (like suspension arms, turret assembly, etc.)
WhiteWolf McBride
still looking to visit the CMW a ~first~ time even though its only a few miles away...
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Finally put some paint on a figure and mounted him in the TC's spot. Had to remove the rear mount that came in the figure kit, because it wouldn't clear the battery. Also, he wouldn't fit at the level I wanted with the kit arms, (belly button defilade isn't cutting it!) so I slashed him at the chest and made new shoulders out of some putty, then painted the figure. The face is not one of my strong points, as he looks kind of dirty.
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Very nice Leo you have there. I also like the fact you use your one and don't just have it sitting on a shelf as I give my own one a bit of use whenever I can.
I had a question about the attachment you have on the front of the turret with all the little tubes on it. What is it for and is it something you scratch built? I have been trying to find some reference and pics on this thing but have so far not had much luck.
cheers
Gorehound
I had a question about the attachment you have on the front of the turret with all the little tubes on it. What is it for and is it something you scratch built? I have been trying to find some reference and pics on this thing but have so far not had much luck.
cheers
Gorehound
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Finally put some paint on a figure and mounted him in the TC's spot. Had to remove the rear mount that came in the figure kit, because it wouldn't clear the battery. Also, he wouldn't fit at the level I wanted with the kit arms, (belly button defilade isn't cutting it!) so I slashed him at the chest and made new shoulders out of some putty, then painted the figure. The face is not one of my strong points, as he looks kind of dirty.
Finally put some paint on a figure and mounted him in the TC's spot. Had to remove the rear mount that came in the figure kit, because it wouldn't clear the battery. Also, he wouldn't fit at the level I wanted with the kit arms, (belly button defilade isn't cutting it!) so I slashed him at the chest and made new shoulders out of some putty, then painted the figure. The face is not one of my strong points, as he looks kind of dirty.
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Gorehound,
The piece on the front is called a DARKAS. It simulates the main gun firing when using MILES type gear. I scratch built it using styrene, but's it's not 100% exact or anything. I think there's a link to a site further back in the thread that has some good pictures of a scratch built one (I used these pics to build mine).
HG,
Closer pics....
The piece on the front is called a DARKAS. It simulates the main gun firing when using MILES type gear. I scratch built it using styrene, but's it's not 100% exact or anything. I think there's a link to a site further back in the thread that has some good pictures of a scratch built one (I used these pics to build mine).
HG,
Closer pics....



