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Old 09-11-2006 | 09:36 PM
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Assuming there was a VVSS conversion kit for the Tamiya Sherman that included bogies, wheels, idler, and track, what price would seem reasonable? This is an unscientific poll.
Old 09-11-2006 | 11:38 PM
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Um, not sure but how about $250.

You know these kind of things call for that kind of investment and since that is a major conversion item, it should at least be that much...

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Old 09-12-2006 | 12:36 AM
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I am in at $250! as long as they are durable and are guaranteed for some period of time....
I know there is a fellow who has a conversion available right now..but some of the components of the VVSS crack with time....
It is a pain in his ACE!!! He has tried to sell the idea to MR TAMIYA but cannot get past the "henchmen"

So what do you have in mind in terms of materials and molds??[sm=49_49.gif]

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Old 09-12-2006 | 07:55 AM
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It should cost no more then you can price out a set of HVSS from Tamiya.
~150.00 and be as durable.
Old 09-12-2006 | 11:29 AM
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VVSS
HVSS
Is this a secret code? I guess I'm not "in the know" about Sherman conversions, but I think you guys are making stuff up to sound like part of an elite group of people who know secrets about tanks.

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Old 09-12-2006 | 11:43 AM
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ORIGINAL: icecreamslick

VVSS
HVSS
Is this a secret code? I guess I'm not "in the know" about Sherman conversions, but I think you guys are making stuff up to sound like part of an elite group of people who know secrets about tanks.

Jason

HVSS is the suspension type that's currently on the Tamiya Sherman. The late war type.
VVSS is the more common early Sherman suspension type. LIke this: [link=http://www.perthmilitarymodelling.com/reviews/vehicles/misc/vvss/vvss.htm]VVSS[/link]
Old 09-12-2006 | 11:54 AM
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HVSS means - Horizontal volute spring system. So I guess VVSS means - Verticle volute spring system.
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HVSS is the suspension type that's currently on the Tamiya Sherman. The late war type.
VVSS is the more common early Sherman suspension type.
HVSS means - Horizontal volute spring system. So I guess VVSS means - Verticle volute spring system.
Oh!

Thank you, bhop73 and Wozwasnt. [sm=thumbup.gif]

Now, I feel less ignorant. It is a nice feeling.

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lol glad you asked slick
Old 09-13-2006 | 09:59 PM
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$400 dollars might be more realistic, is this too much? Imagine CNC aluminum wheels, aluminum impregnated resin bogies and cast metal track. This is all hypothetical of course.
Old 09-13-2006 | 10:14 PM
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BYA has the Sherman metal tracks listed for $180. Tamiya charges $150 forthe HVSS parts, so $325 - $400 sounds more realistic. Now, maybe if you could a firm production date, and a whole lot of people to pony up a deposit ($75-$100).... then would that get the price down??????

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Old 09-13-2006 | 10:58 PM
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I see where this is going....
OK.... pretend we are all from MISSOURI... "SHOW ME STATE"

Show us a prototype!!! If it is like you describe it would be very tempting!!! But realistically in order to sell a sufficient volume the pricing will unfortunately need to stay in the $250 range...

I only say this because at $400... THat is about 80% cost of a FULL FUNTION SHERMAN!!!

BYA has been working on a 1/16 FIREFLY that is suppose to debut sometime this year...*haven't seen it yet!!!!!! With the VVSS suspension and metal tracks and gearboxes... ALL that will be needed is to add the electronics from the innards of a SHERMAN for full function... and their price will be very tempting...

I understand that cost vs quantity... More quantity lower cost... etc... Therein lies the issue...

I know you would sell many at a reasonable $250... any higher and the frontal lobe will kick in and say...hmmmm better just to buy another everyday HVSS SHERMAN for almost the same cost as just getting a suspension system!!!!!

THAT IS ONLY my kind .02 cents worth....

I am all for you developing and offering the system!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

-GOOD LUCK ... and at $250 I am ready to buy it!! Just "SHOW ME 1st" !!!!!!!!!!

-TOMAS

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