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Old 07-12-2010 | 08:56 PM
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Hey Brothers,

Inspired by David's BULLDOG, I want to do a PERSHING. I want to model the tank in the famous duel at the Cathedral. I found a picture of a tank that is kinda ify as to if this is the Pershing or not.

Anyone help me out here?

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Old 07-12-2010 | 09:10 PM
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Hopefully someone comes forth with some info. All I've been able to find was 3 photos, 2 of which were useless and the one you posted. Also, the crew of the tank....that about it. I too wanted to model that, but can't really find good pic's of it.
Old 07-12-2010 | 09:27 PM
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Don, that's most definately a Pershing and from the background, Germany or France. The shipping stencils on the skirts indicate that it may be one of the Zebra tanks in Mar-April 45. It would be a good "partner" for your Tigers.
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Don, I found another photo of the same Pershing. It's at Cologne, Pershing # 26, of Co E 32d Regt. This is the tank that took out the Panther at the Cathedral and also got another one near Paderborn.
Old 07-12-2010 | 10:03 PM
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Thanks Bill!

Hey Tony, If I dig up anthing else I will be happy to share!!!

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Old 07-12-2010 | 10:39 PM
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Tony, Photos from Cologne.
The photo of the Pershings in the field with guns over the deck are Lt Grimball's platoon near Vettweiss.
The Pershing on the road passing the VTR is from Co C, 19th Bn, 9th Armored Div.
The others are of #26, Co E, 32d Regt, 3 AD, one outside of Cologne and the other views of the Pershing hunting the Panther.
Hope these help.
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Old 07-12-2010 | 10:50 PM
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Thanks Bill! They do help a bit, little hard to make out the markings, but helpful nevertheless!<div>
</div><div>Is it me, or do those side skirts have pretty sharp angles, especially in the first pic?</div>
Old 07-13-2010 | 07:46 PM
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The skirts that come on the HL or Tammy Pershing are pretty accurate. Early models had them bolted, but later improved with hinges on the center pieces. I sent you photos via email...did you get them OK?

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Old 07-13-2010 | 07:49 PM
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Hey Bill,

Yes I did. Thanks you very much. I meant to reply however I was overcome by events.

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Old 07-13-2010 | 07:51 PM
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Strange that they had the 50 cal covered up.

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Old 07-14-2010 | 09:04 AM
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Roger Don, I was surprised by that also. Considering all the problems they had with snipers, the ma deuce should have been open and ready to go. Possible they had some real nasty weather and trying to keep it from rusting, but hey, this was a combat zone. Those old canvas covers went on and came off pretty easy. Maybe easier to get a sniper by taking out the whole building with the 90mm. [:-]
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Hi Don,

I hope you got my PM on the Tiger Parts. Call me on my cell. I hope you do build the Koln M26 Pershing. Make it Tamiya TBS compatable please so we can re-enact the Koln battle againt my Tamiya Panther. There are some great videos from this epic 3rd Army battle. Some of which includes the gunner Clarence Smoyer.

Here a just a few.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkUnMhD2qTY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6LqB-RYUvY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jt5bJ...eature=related

lastly here is a video of my Panther vs Jimmy Kuhn's Pershing Please post a comment on youtube if you enjoyed it..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivDNOPrNXUE

Bob, thecommandernj

PS: I sold my Pershing, but it is a nice shot of the town at Danville.
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Old 07-14-2010 | 06:59 PM
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Oh that was sweet!!!!!!!!

Great work Bob!!!!


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Old 09-14-2012 | 05:07 AM
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I know I've dug up a 2 year old thread, but I was wondering if anyone modelled the Pershing that killed the Panther in this engagement in any scale?

I've found examples of the destroyed Panther but nothing on the Pershing other than it coming from Pershing # 26, of Co E 32d Regt (thanks Pattoncommander).
Old 09-14-2012 | 01:31 PM
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found this one
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Old 09-14-2012 | 01:45 PM
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I know that there is a video on youtube with an interview of the TC fromt that Perhsing too. Don't know how much that would help you, but I think it would be a great tank to model.
Old 09-14-2012 | 08:20 PM
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Thanks for the clearer pictures, Googling the serial numbers brought me more photographs of the loadout Sgt. Early's T26E3 had on that day:


This clearly shows the serial numbers





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Looking forward to seeing this tank modeled. Sure you will do a good job Don

Be well,

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Old 09-15-2012 | 05:07 AM
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ORIGINAL: no12skyline

Thanks for the clearer pictures, Googling the serial numbers brought me more photographs of the loadout Sgt. Early's T26E3 had on that day:


This clearly shows the serial numbers






I don,t see any pics??

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Old 09-15-2012 | 05:28 AM
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Hmmm, must be time for a new 'puter or pull harder on that string!



















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Old 09-15-2012 | 07:11 AM
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This movie has some footage showing it.<div>
</div><div>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6LqB-RYUvY</div>

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