JS-3 conversion kit for the KV-1
 

A very interesting new product from Christian Juckenburg: a conversion kit to build a dynamic JS-3 over the lower hull of the KV-1.

The kit comes with turret ring the size of the heng long tanks, and outer wheels in plastic (not resin) for a better appearance of the drive train.

The lower hull of the JS-3 is different from the KV-1's, but this solution looks a good compromise to me.

[link=http://www.store-juckenburg.de/index.php?id_product=73&controller=product]JS-3 page[/link]

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Hmmm. Very nice and me want! :D














~ Jeff

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That is really cool.. it looks great

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Very nice...a bit narrow for a JS-III bit looks great. It was a mechanical nightmare and most never got out of the motor pool...like our M-60A2s....but it was a mean looking tank. It would be a good IDF capture and may be worth the cost.

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I love that turret, Looks mean

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I like it!...Just leary of how well the resin parts would hold up in combat/general RC use?

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I wouldn't be worried about the resin superstructure parts at all. The chasis is stock HL, so the running gear will be as good as HL.

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Just about half of us have resin parts and conversion materials on our tanks.


Just depends on how it's put together. :D














~ Jeff

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I like.....very cool.....It would be nice to have a working soviet king tiger.

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I wonder if this would work on a taigen KV-1....? being that Taigen has a bunch of asiatam parts I wonder if the wheel covers would fit and what not?

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I like this image the best:

http://www.store-juckenburg.de/img/p...ox_default.jpg














~ Jeff

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me to...lol

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Here's the original prototype build blog linky -http://rctank-forum.hu/viewtopic.php?f=135&t=1789&sid=1c6bc1fddcd 03173a7042601e65b34b0

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I'll let you know, I ordered a Taigen KV-1 for for a JS-3 conversion last week. My own motor pool is getting long in the tooth so I thought I could freshen it up.

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How much is this kit in U.S. dollars? I do not see a ENGLISH icon on this website. There is some very cool stuff I would like to get from this vender. HELP!

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Like the rest of us natives do: http://www.xe.com/currencyconverter/

Or you could email him?














~ Jeff

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google also has a currency converter, just type in "<span style="font-family: Arial, Verdana, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; text-align: right;"><font size="2">€ 219.95 in dollars" and it will convert it. Handy little tip.</font></span><div><span style="font-family: Arial, Verdana, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; text-align: right;"><font size="2">
</font></span></div><div><span style="font-family: Arial, Verdana, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; text-align: right;"><font size="2">its $280 if you are wondering.</font></span></div>

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Thank You.

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<div>". . . would it work on a taigen KV-1....? " - The hull would fit , but the wheels won't , they are just new outer parts that replace the HL ones . http://www.rcpilot.hu/users/443/1584...1910421212.jpg http://www.rcpilot.hu/users/443/1584...1042141718.jpg - You could rebush them though , HL axles are 6mm dia - Taigen/Asiatam wheels use 4mm's . It would be cheaper to just get the HL hull ( and sort out the weak idler mounts - with a Hentech tensioner ? )</div>

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The JS-3 used the same gun as the JS-2 so you could use the Tamiya JS-2 gun to build on .

About the Russian Heavy Tank JS III
On September 7th 1945, the allied nations were staggered by Russia's disclosure of their JS-3 heavy tank at a victory parade in Berlin. Although coded a "JS" (Josef Stalin) tank, it had a totally different appearance from its preceding models. The one-piece cast turret had a simple flattened hemispherical shape. The maximum thickness of the turret armor reached 250mm. The front hull was constructed by welding three 120mm thick armor plates, forming a shape like a ship's bow. The main armament used the same L/43 122mm gun as the JS-2. The 520 horsepower diesel engine provided 40km/h of maximum speed. With the concerted effort of the talented Russian tank engineers such as N.L. Jukhov and Z.A. Kotin, the prototype was completed in October 1944 and the mass production began in the following year. There have been a lot of controversy concerning whether or not the JS-3 saw any fighting during the Berlin campaign. At least one regiment was equipped with the JS-3 by then, but it's still uncertain if they were committed to the actual fighting. Other sources claim that it was first deployed in combat against the Japanese in Manchuria in August 1945. Incorporating several modifications, its production was continued until 1951 and about 1,800 JS-3's were produced. Its simple and effective turret and hull configuration deeply influenced not only the following Russian tanks, but also fighting vehicles of the western nations.

Thanks
Jimmy

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I still like the T-10 better. Longer and had 7 pairs of wheels instead of 6.














~ Jeff

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Does Henntec make an idler kit for the KV-1....? I like their set-ups better then anyone elses with that nice cross brace..makes it good an strong.

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Jimmy, The JS-III had everyone scared due to it's radical new design and the pointed bow gave it the name "Pike". It had enormous mechanical problems with wheel bearings and other suspension related flaws, so most JS-IIIs just sat in motor pools and rarely participated in anything other than local parades. The T-10, in spite of improvements to suspension and gun mods did not fare much better. A dozen JS-IIIs or so were captured by Israel from Egyptian units in the Yom Kippur War but were driven back and not dragged back as combat casualties , which in itself indicates that the tanks were not deployed but kept in rear staging areas. Having been a tank commander in Germany in cold war years, I am thoroughly convinced that our M-48 was copied from the JS-III.

The M-103 developed from the T-43 120mm gun tank was rushed into production and deployed with the 33d HTB, 3d AD at Aschaffenburg as a counter to E German border tank units being equiped with the JS-III. It was concluded in the mid 60s that this was unfounded and the M-103A2s were withdrawn from service. The 103 also had severe mechanical problems in that the gun could not be run out of travel lock for any distance without causing damage to the turret gears and a rack of 4 55 gal fuel drums had to be carried on the rear to go any distance at all. Marines used them for many years after, with mods to A5, Danville has one of these rare items.

In spite of all, both were important tanks in armor history.

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Hi Pattoncommander
Nice history on the JS-III and M103 is there a book out about the history on Tanks from the late 40's to 70's .

Thanks
Jimmy

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Hunnicutt's Firepower covers all US heavy tanks with a lot of nice pics of M-103s. I tried to transfer to the 33d, as I had a couple buddys there and my loader had some time in 103s, but my CO wouldn't let me go. It was an awesome tank and that long telephone pole sticking out of the turret demanded a lot of respect. In a stationary position, it could sit and take out enemy armor a couple miles out...like KTs and JTs in WW II, The 120mm was extremeley accurate, but slow due to seperate load ammo. But moving cross country the gun had to be locked down. It was not designed for tk vs tk combat but more as a long range tank killer and did OK under the severe restrictions placed on it.

We ran maneuvers against them in 1961 in our M-48A2s. It brought back stories of Shermans against Tigers with umpires telling us we had been taken out 3 grid squares away when we could not see them or get within engagement range with our 90mms. As with Shermans, we had to have a coupe platoons run miles out of the way to get behind or flank them. The 103s kicked our butts.

In the mid 60s, the JS-III was no longer deemed a threat and the 33d was downsized to medium and issued M-48A1s.

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Most of us don't care much for any history lesson. http://images.rcuniverse.com/forum/micons/m7.gif We can find it ourselves on the Internet or in books.

These are Radio Controlled Tanks, I buy and build because they look cool or I like them.














~ Jeff

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Wait i'm relatively new here... pattoncommander was in WWII? Vietnam? Cold War?<div>
</div><div>I love reading his posts, very entertaining (in a very good way). Just a bit confused who he is :)</div>

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He "says" he was in the Korean War at age 14, so is supposed to be an expert on the Patton Tank.

Not anything on WWII which we all have learned about from the same place.














~ Jeff

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This is all I have I thought I took more but I have also lost a few hundred pictures so they may be amongst the lost, this IS3 is/was located at the military museum Brussels since I took these pictures the museum has gone through a spot of renovation and all the tanks were removed so I don’t know if it has returned, the IS3 was complete even down to the original batteries still inside, the reliability problems with these tanks meant that all were used as gate guards with no mileage on them, IS3 was probably the most unreliable tank ever produced and would no doubt have broken down before entering battle though it still looked formidable
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By the way this tank had stood outside for 7 years when I took these pictures

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Thanks for the pictures.

I think seeing this on the RC battlefield will be cool.














~ Jeff

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It would be extremely difficult to use the Taigen all metal to convert to the IS3. I would not recommend it.
Not saying it is impossible but holy smokes you would need some equipment and a bunch of skills.

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ok I ordered one last week I have both the plastic KV-1 lower hull and a Asiatam KV-1 metal lower hull will see if I can get the metal one to work if not ill fall back on to the plastic HL one .

Jimmy

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WOW the barrel jumps a lot!

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I have received my two kits from Christian juckenburg, i.e. the SU-152 and the JS-3 conversion kits for the heng long KV-1.

Both were carefully packaged, with all small parts in several bags.

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The instructions came in form of several A4 sheets in B/W, filled with pictures. Step-by-step procedure description is lacking (except some general tips about handling of resin parts and explanations about how to modify the supension heigth), but the pics themselves are many and self- explanatory enough .

All resin parts were well moulded, with rich details and few cleaning required. No visible deformation and just one bubble in the barrel found so far.

http://i71.servimg.com/u/f71/15/16/85/12/imag0313.jpg

The single-piece hull is impressive for both size and detail, and it is designed to fit the HL KV-1 plastic lower hull.
I have tried to fit it on a Asiatam metal lower hull and can confirm that it doesn't fit without working on the rear of the resin hull, which is designed to fit between the side walls of the metal one.
Since the side walls are thicker on the metal hull than on the plastic one, it doesn't fit out of the box.

The turret is made in two pieces, with the lower part moulded to accept a standard HL turret ring. The upper part of the turret has a nice fusion texture.

There is a bag with the replacement outer wheels, cast in some black plastic rather than resin, softer to the touch and more fit for running over the tracks. This is a nice addition, with RC in mind, and Christian must be praised for that.
Also some spare tracks are supplied to be put on the upper hull.

The barrel is not hollow and will require a replacement with either an aluminium turned one or something else, in order to fit IR and/or flash units inside it.

A cople of metal axles are supplied to build hinges and handles.

Overall, a very nice kit, worth the price.

(a last picture with main parts one over the other... I know, I took the picture with motor grills rotated by 180°)

http://i71.servimg.com/u/f71/15/16/85/12/imag0314.jpg

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Hello, How about some pictures of the SU-152 kit also. Thanks

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Didn't post them to keep the thread focused on the JS-3, anyway I took a couple of pictures I can share:

http://i71.servimg.com/u/f71/15/16/85/12/imag0310.jpg

Same care in package, with bags for smaller parts and metal axles for hinges.
The single-piece casamate is impressive and reach in details. The gun is designed with elevation pivoting axles. The barrel cylinder is not hollow, but since its size (short and thick... it's a 152mm after all!) I think it is possible to drill it, thus allowing at least wires for muzzle flash and/or IR led to pass through it. The muzzle brake is a separate part and is correctly drilled.
In case someone wishes a working barrel recoil more work is needed (a sleeve will be required to sustain the mantlet).
Same kind of instructions (A4 sheets of pictures), this kit looks and easier build. It will fit metal lower hulls since its interface is with the upper hull only, which requires several not too difficult cuts to fit the casamate and the new engine covers (you see them detailed on the instruction sheet in the picture above).

Another kit worth the price, imho.

http://i71.servimg.com/u/f71/15/16/85/12/imag0311.jpg

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What would it take to fit the kit on the asitam metal KV hull?

Just file down the sides? Is it possible? :P

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I'm not sure exaclty because the fitting test can't go too far without cutting the resin hull first: anyway I had to unscrew the whole back of the metal hull, and it will also be necessary to remove the front metal hooks and front plate, and possibly to cut a bit of the inner aluminium front plate (maybe this is not needed).
As for the resin hull, the rear requires at least the outlined part in the picture below to be cut (is is meant to slide inside the hull) while the rest of the hull follows the rear rounded wall, the one around the final transmission cover.

But since I will be using the metal hull for the Su-152 and have ordered a plastic one for the JS-3, I'm sorry but cannot go more far in my hints, and I'm not sure about how the resin hull will copy the metal one, even after these works. It should, though.


Uploaded the picture twice since the first version wasn't clear. See the second one with the dotted outline.