Currently have a Axial .28 with an hpi polished pipe. I want to move both these back to my savage.

I am using a starter box and dont want to spend much over 200 for the engine and pipe. I also want soemthing that winds up a bit faster than the axial.

Here is what i am considering in order.


STS D30m + sts pipe 120+ 43 = 163
http://rc-mushroom.com/product_info....ducts_id=11323

Mach 427 + lst 2 pipe + backplate 125+12 = 137
(thanks for finding the deal patrickbw)http://www.finedesignrc.com/deals.as...eNo=&RowCount=

LRP spec 3 160+?(forpipe) = >160
http://www.ultimatehobbies.com/istar.asp?a=6&id=LRP32809!1007

picco .28 190+?(for pipe) = >190
http://www.ultimatehobbies.com/istar.asp?a=6&id=OFN51233!1007



this is for racing(not offically) on a tight rough track. I would assume the sts is faster than the 427 so thats at the top. the lrp and picco are probably a bit more than I want to spend right now.
Any thoughts? Other decent under 200 options? what pipes should i put with a lrp and picco? JP-3?

Thanks dudes

Honestly your better to spend a little more right now and buy a good engine... The STS 30 is a powerful motor, but its very finicky and proven to be not overly durable.... in a Truggy a motor spins alot higher RPM's then a motor would in a MT. So the STS motors tend to break cranks alot when subjected to Truggy type RPM's... Another thing to consider as well is the STS motors come from factory with extremely tight pinch, they can take up 2 full gallons to break in and start performing decent...and as a rule these motors run excessively hot and tend to burn out exhaust couplers very quickly..... So its my opinion that these STS motors end up costing you more inthe long run to get them to working order....The long break in is the killer for me..

A Picco 28 is a rock solid italian built motor known to be very rugged and durable... It has excelent tolerances and machining from factory and tends to break in very easily, the motor will actualy perform extremely well even on first tank... The motor will be still tight, but its will still run very well.... though it does take a Picco about 1.5 gallons to really open up on top end, the motor is still a powerhouse right off the bat....a STS 30 can be slug for a very long time.....

Also the Picco is very robust, it has a huge beefy crankpin, big beefy crankshaft..very thick sleeve, and a nicely machined piston,its built to last ... Not to mention the Picco makes huge amounts of power, easily the strongest onthe list of yours

the best pipe for a P3 28 is a 086 on a short conical header... JP-3 also works well so does a JP-2... as well as a 053....actualy the P3 28 is really strong on almost any pipe... the 086/s conical combo is what will give you the absolute peak output of that engine....but the Picco makes soo much power anyways that pretty much any old pipe will work.....

lrp spec 3 and a thunder tiger long pipe it will put you around 210

another option
dynamite .28
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...oducts_id/7459
ttr long pipe
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...oducts_id/4637

why not .21?
you may find it eaiser to get what you want,
especially if your racing on a tight track.

I was under the impression that the price/performance of a .21 is less than that of a .28. What are some decent options out there?

so is the picco worth 30 dollars more than the lrp?

if i go with the picco i guess the short tunder tiger pipe would be good since it is comparable to a 086
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...oducts_id/4639

Heres one to look at. The Jammin JPX .28. Its a little over 200 for just the engine but I'm running one and this mill is fast and reliable. The only roblem with this engine is it is a hog on fuel.


http://cgi.ebay.com/Ofna-Jammin-28-J...QQcmdZViewItem

Also, I found that the JP-2 pipe works great with the JPX .28 too.

Jammin .28 with a JP 3. never looked back again on any other engine and pipe. HAve almost 4 gallons in it and comprastion is crazy.

Regards fuel, all .28s are hogs on it