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qaiz 02-14-2008 06:36 AM

RE: the hyper st PRO thread!
 
Just checked and double checked today.

Yes the Jammin Big Bores do fit the Hyper.!

I would'av gotten them, but all they had was an open pack, and I am not about to take a risk.

Ill probably get them next week, keep you posted.

kx_maduk 02-14-2008 06:39 AM

RE: the hyper st PRO thread!
 
ye im looking for bigger shocks and noticed a diffrence in size between kyosho and hyper .

i may be wrong but carnt you bolt up losi 8 t bb shocks to the hyper ? wih a small amount of modification ?

kx_maduk 02-14-2008 06:41 AM

RE: the hyper st PRO thread!
 
what make is jammin over here ? ? ? in the uk ?? /

i think its hong nor ?? ??? ?? ?? ? ?

not to sure though ,

if it i can get a set of big bore shocks of ebay hopefully

HerrSavage 02-14-2008 06:45 AM

RE: the hyper st PRO thread!
 
Well I guess I'll have to wait on the bigger shocks, but in the meantime I really want to find some stiffer springs...

Now, the stock Hyper shocks are 16mm, yes?? How big are the Jammin shocks??

qaiz 02-14-2008 06:49 AM

RE: the hyper st PRO thread!
 
@ kx

Yeah Jammin is aslo known as Hong Nor, I think Its actually called Hong Nor and marketed as Jammin, same with Ofna, actually Ho Bao , just marketed as Ofna.

@ Patrick

I have no idea, I think SavageManSS would be able to give you the size of the shocks.

As for springs, I think maybe the Progressive Ones might fit.

Not at all sure tho, it just comes up when you type 'Hyper ST' in the search box.

Im really tempted by those big bores, but they arent threaded [&o].

I really like using spacers, easy, no fuss..

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qaiz 02-14-2008 11:56 AM

RE: the hyper st PRO thread!
 
What the hell is wrong with this truck.!!!!!

Ive just switched out the brakes.!

And its making a clicking noise. [:@]

And there is no braking power.!!

Guys please please please if you have ANY TIPS on how to improve this damn thing, please let me know.

Ive tried probably EVERYTHING under the sun.!

supertib 02-14-2008 12:02 PM

RE: the hyper st PRO thread!
 


ORIGINAL: kx_maduk

i have taken my st apart know to rebuild the diffs and shocks with new oils , Which ones i am going to try i still dont know i think its gonna just be a trial and error thing

just bought 2 ACE 8128 digital servo

it has nearly 15 kg of torque is that enough for the steering ? . it is also pritty fast 0.1 sec

Or do you think the ace ds1015 would have been a better choice?

here are the links for the servo specs

http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...oducts_id/5994

http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...oducts_id/5994

you posted link to ACE 1313

qaiz 02-14-2008 12:08 PM

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Anyone.!!!!! [sm=confused.gif]

zJatoRad 02-14-2008 01:39 PM

RE: the hyper st PRO thread!
 
I don't think the Hyper ST PRO are the same size as the Hong Nor 16mm Shocks, I would say the HSP are like 14.5mm in comparison to the Hong Nor ones.

And someone said the Kyosho's are 20mm, that's hugggeee, so I don't think they can be that big, they must be around 16mm too.

metroman 02-14-2008 02:34 PM

RE: the hyper st PRO thread!
 
@ PatrickBW
Yes, I am sure that the kyosho Big Bore springs will fit the Hyper ST Shocks.

lazyboy12300 02-14-2008 02:48 PM

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qaiz, I have read from many sources that the brakes are not much good. In the UK many people are switching to Craddock Brakes:
[link=http://www.apexmodels.com/product-search.php?call=show&cat=accessories&man=60&catid= 401&title=accessories]Craddock Brakes[/link]

I personally havent tried either as I am just waiting for my engine but was swaying between these. I will see how the stock ones go and see.

Hope this helps
Scott

qaiz 02-14-2008 02:52 PM

RE: the hyper st PRO thread!
 
Scott, thanks.

But I already have an after market brake set, Racers Edge Super High Temp's.

They're a bit better ive heard.

Ill take it apart tomorrow 'again', and try to set it up again!

Thanks Tho.

nwolsink 02-14-2008 03:26 PM

RE: the hyper st PRO thread!
 
I'll help you out:

Just trow in Fiber disc's, metal pads and an better linkage, the parts you need:
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...ducts_id/15646
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...oducts_id/3678 (you have to trim them a bit yourself they don't fit right on)
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...oducts_id/4499

The disc's are not exactly the same ones I use but i Guess they'll do just fine as well
Hope to have helped you out!

j_blaze 02-14-2008 05:53 PM

RE: the hyper st PRO thread!
 

And its making a clicking noise.

And there is no braking power.!!
sounds like bad servo, stripped gears?

qaiz 02-15-2008 01:53 AM

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@ nwolsink

I have those EXACT same brakes. Im really thinking its my servo [:@]. As for the calipers, ive just switched them inside out, I didnt order an extra set, and cant find a metal set locally.

If I NEED those calipers, im gonna have to wait till next month [:@]

Thanks for the info tho, im gonna strip it down again soon and try and fix it.

@ j_blaze

I highly doubt it, I used to run these servos in another truck and were fine there. I think it may be that its burnt out, yesterday there was a strong smell of burning plastic coming from that servo. Ah I need to check if I have the $$$ to replace it with another one.


Brakes are way too over rated [:@]

nwolsink 02-15-2008 02:29 AM

RE: the hyper st PRO thread!
 
If you run fiber disc you have to use metal pads otherwise it will not brake properly. I use an ACE DS1015 on the brake and on the steering as well.

qaiz 02-15-2008 02:32 AM

RE: the hyper st PRO thread!
 
I switched my pads around [sm=confused_smile.gif]

Was told that would work too.

Do I gotta remove the pads off the calipers.?

The the pads are facing the outside, not the inside.

nwolsink 02-15-2008 04:58 AM

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But than your brake lever will push into the pad material, that is a bad solution, if you want to use the stock pads remove all pad material

qaiz 02-15-2008 05:01 AM

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Alright Thanks.

Ill just sand it down later on.

I hope this works.!!

lazyboy12300 02-15-2008 05:58 AM

RE: the hyper st PRO thread!
 
Another thing that I have heard is that the lack of braking power is down to flex in the radio tray. I saw someone on truggyracers put a hyper 8 fuel tank holder underneath to brace it. He said that it helped him. Just look on truggyracers in the Hyper ST section and look for something about braking.
Hope this helps
scott

qaiz 02-15-2008 06:12 AM

RE: the hyper st PRO thread!
 
Im nearly done, ill post a guide with pics up in about an hour.

No one would have expected this...

Stay Tuned..

kx_maduk 02-15-2008 07:17 AM

RE: the hyper st PRO thread!
 
was it hard to do your brake mod ?

i am going to do something like it very soon but dont know when

droidswarm 02-15-2008 07:35 AM

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Do you all find it necessary to cut a hole in the front window to help keep the temps down?

qaiz 02-15-2008 08:07 AM

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Alright. This is for everyone FURUSTRATED with not getting their brakes able to work.

Whats it costs to do this mod : 1 set of [link=http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_info.php/products_id/4499]Racers Edge Brakes[/link] , $17

What you need :

--1x Set of Racers Edge Brakes
--1x Plyer ( I do not recommend needle nose plyers)
--250ML of Nitro @ 30%, 350ML @ 25%, 450ML @ 20%, 500ML @ 16%. The Higher the %tage, the lower amount needed
--1x Sharp Hobby Knife
--1x Saftey Goggles
--4x Standard Ho Bao ( Hyper ST) Brake Calipers

How Long It Takes :

15 mins to an Hour.

How to do it :

Firstly rinse the standard brakes with water. Dry them completely and then drop them in Nitro. What happens when you drop them in nitro is the brake pads ( The Hard Stony Granite Thing), starts to oxidize, making it easier to remove. Let it set for about 15 mins, then pick up the calipers with the plyers and start scraping the pad material off with the knife. Do this until no furthur pad material will come off, and let it set. Repeat process as needed.

Once all the pad material is off, and you are left with completely metal calipers, rinse it down with a bit of water, and spray a lil' bit of WD 40 onto them, and dry down with a tissue or cloth.

Now attach the side where the pads were not originally located ( The side which you did not have to scrape the pad material off ) facing the brake pads.

Now would be a good time to open up your instruction manual to Page 10.

Assemble the brake cams ( I did not use the plastic Bushings ) making sure that the rear brake cam DOES NOT scrape against the spur gear . Once that is done, assemble as shown in the manual, and adjust brake linkages back to stock position

Braking power should be extremely good by now and all wheels should lock up.

Attached are a few pictures to guide you along.

PM me for anymore questions.

qaiz...

nwolsink 02-15-2008 08:29 AM

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This is my setup, all you need are these parts:

http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...ducts_id/15646
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...oducts_id/3678 (you have to trim them a bit yourself they don't fit right on)
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...oducts_id/4499

This brake setup can flip your car over!


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