CARF-Models P-47 Thunderbolt
07-14-2011, 09:21 AM
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RE: CARF-Models P-47 Thunderbolt
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Question: Are the pushrods shown in the CARF P47 documentation 3MM thread?
Question: Are the pushrods shown in the CARF P47 documentation 3MM thread?
I would like to find out the threaded rod size so that I can order some titanium threaded rod in the same size and get it sent over to Graham in the UK. Just trying to make sure he has everything for the build before he gets to the stage where he needs it.
07-14-2011, 09:37 AM
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RE: CARF-Models P-47 Thunderbolt
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I'd have to agree Chad... Pretty weak
Casey
I'd have to agree Chad... Pretty weak
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07-14-2011, 11:38 AM
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RE: CARF-Models P-47 Thunderbolt
Hi, Richard,
Congratulations on an ABSOLUTELY OUTSTANDING instruction manual; no doubt the best ever for a CARF model. The nice thing about it, is that it makes this large machine easy to build even for pilots with limited experience in building all composite planes. Good for you and good for CARF!
CARF Pilot
Congratulations on an ABSOLUTELY OUTSTANDING instruction manual; no doubt the best ever for a CARF model. The nice thing about it, is that it makes this large machine easy to build even for pilots with limited experience in building all composite planes. Good for you and good for CARF!
CARF Pilot
07-14-2011, 09:06 PM
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RE: CARF-Models P-47 Thunderbolt
Thank you for the compliments
My goal is for every P-47 purchased to be successfully built and flown...and if builders find the manual enjoyable to use, all the better!
It is a beautiful kit of an iconic aircraft and I am privileged to be a part of its success.[8D]
As far as the CARF cockpit... it does not compare with some of the scale kits soon to be available. Having communicated with Andreas Gietz, I can confidently state that he concurs with my statement. But neither does it add $300 Euros to the price of the kit.
Andreas competed at TOP GUN with the simple CARF cockpit, winning the Pro-Am class. For the average sport modeler and flyer, the CARF should be sufficient.
I will use the CARF parts and doll them up to the best of my ability. The finished product will certainly be superior to an empty cockpit
My goal is for every P-47 purchased to be successfully built and flown...and if builders find the manual enjoyable to use, all the better!
It is a beautiful kit of an iconic aircraft and I am privileged to be a part of its success.[8D]
As far as the CARF cockpit... it does not compare with some of the scale kits soon to be available. Having communicated with Andreas Gietz, I can confidently state that he concurs with my statement. But neither does it add $300 Euros to the price of the kit.
Andreas competed at TOP GUN with the simple CARF cockpit, winning the Pro-Am class. For the average sport modeler and flyer, the CARF should be sufficient.
I will use the CARF parts and doll them up to the best of my ability. The finished product will certainly be superior to an empty cockpit
07-15-2011, 07:18 PM
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RE: CARF-Models P-47 Thunderbolt
ORIGINAL: wojtek
give me a break ... go away, and leave those trying to be helpful alone ..
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this is advertising, not forum
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this is advertising, not forum
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give me a break ... go away, and leave those trying to be helpful alone ..
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07-16-2011, 07:13 AM
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RE: CARF-Models P-47 Thunderbolt
ORIGINAL: tail end charlie
pure advertising by Forum rules, and it doesn't speak highly of the moderators either.
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give me a break ... go away, and leave those trying to be helpful alone ..
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ORIGINAL: tail end charlie
!@#^
this is advertising, not forum
TEC
!@#^
this is advertising, not forum
TEC
give me a break ... go away, and leave those trying to be helpful alone ..
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07-19-2011, 08:17 AM
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RE: CARF-Models P-47 Thunderbolt
so what pilots are you guys using on your P-47s ? I like the ones from http://www.maffscav.de/piloten.html and i have a 1/4.5 for my MB339 and its super, however i dont believe they have ww2 style pilots ...
also, does anyone have a light/lense kit available for the CARF P-47?
~V~
also, does anyone have a light/lense kit available for the CARF P-47?
~V~
07-19-2011, 08:28 AM
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RE: CARF-Models P-47 Thunderbolt
Locating the correct WWII pilot has been a real challenge. I have not yet found one.
The cockpit kit for this aicraft does come with the proper sized pilot, but he is rather crude. Perhaps some clever artwork would make him suitable for high level competition? dont know...
Not sure about a lense kit, but would check with suppliers of Jim Meister kits, as the Meister P-47 is close in size.
The cockpit kit for this aicraft does come with the proper sized pilot, but he is rather crude. Perhaps some clever artwork would make him suitable for high level competition? dont know...
Not sure about a lense kit, but would check with suppliers of Jim Meister kits, as the Meister P-47 is close in size.
07-19-2011, 08:37 AM
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RE: CARF-Models P-47 Thunderbolt
Check the dimensions of the Premiere Pilot offerings.
While they state they are "1/4 scale" the dimensions seem perfectly appropriate for the CARF P-47.
Example: A typical WWII fighter pilot would have been about 5 foot 10 inches tall; that is 70 inches.
22.5% of 70 inches is 15.75 inches.
The Premiere Pilots do appear to be this dimension.
http://www.premierpilots.net/index.html
While they state they are "1/4 scale" the dimensions seem perfectly appropriate for the CARF P-47.
Example: A typical WWII fighter pilot would have been about 5 foot 10 inches tall; that is 70 inches.
22.5% of 70 inches is 15.75 inches.
The Premiere Pilots do appear to be this dimension.
http://www.premierpilots.net/index.html
07-19-2011, 08:40 AM
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RE: CARF-Models P-47 Thunderbolt
yes, im doing either a D-balsa cockpit, or one from www.inzpan.com if a P-47 one will in fact be made available .. here is a pic of my Maffscav pilot i have in a MB339, and hopefully i can find similar quality for the P-47 ... i will check out the fighteraces pilots out ...
anyone have any experience or info on these ?? http://www.rcscaleallcomposite.com/fullbodypilot.htm
anyone have any experience or info on these ?? http://www.rcscaleallcomposite.com/fullbodypilot.htm
07-19-2011, 09:18 AM
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RE: CARF-Models P-47 Thunderbolt
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yes, im doing either a D-balsa cockpit, or one from www.inzpan.com if a P-47 one will in fact be made available .. here is a pic of my Maffscav pilot i have in a MB339, and hopefully i can find similar quality for the P-47 ... i will check out the fighteraces pilots out ...
anyone have any experience or info on these ?? http://www.rcscaleallcomposite.com/fullbodypilot.htm
yes, im doing either a D-balsa cockpit, or one from www.inzpan.com if a P-47 one will in fact be made available .. here is a pic of my Maffscav pilot i have in a MB339, and hopefully i can find similar quality for the P-47 ... i will check out the fighteraces pilots out ...
anyone have any experience or info on these ?? http://www.rcscaleallcomposite.com/fullbodypilot.htm
07-19-2011, 09:25 AM
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RE: CARF-Models P-47 Thunderbolt
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If you are going to do the full depth Dynamic Balsa cockpit like I am, then fighteraces in the UK has a 1/4 wwII pilot that should work fine with a slight seat height adjustment.
Thanks-Mike O
If you are going to do the full depth Dynamic Balsa cockpit like I am, then fighteraces in the UK has a 1/4 wwII pilot that should work fine with a slight seat height adjustment.
Thanks-Mike O
If you wish I can post some shots of my pilot from fighterace that I have just unpacked and post
and also unpack COMP ARF it may give you some idear of size.
REGARDS JOHN
07-19-2011, 05:45 PM
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RE: CARF-Models P-47 Thunderbolt
ORIGINAL: IFLYBVM2
Please do-That would be quite helpful for everyone.
Thanks-Mike O
Please do-That would be quite helpful for everyone.
Thanks-Mike O
Some shots of the pilot,You can trim the glass back to the blue line safely,If you are going to do a sliding canopy
I would say there if room to do so, The black line on the foam with the pilot is the profile of the canopy,
The 1/4 scale dash as is,Is just a bit to big I,am going to make my owne with componants that I have from INZPAN.
If you need anymore info just ask.
REGARDS
JOHN
07-20-2011, 04:03 AM
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RE: CARF-Models P-47 Thunderbolt
John, thanks for posting pics .. that pilot looks just right for that cockpit size... Im still waiting to hear from Inzpan if they will have a cockpit kit for the CARF P-47, .. if not im going with the Dbalsa kit and I will just use some of the inzpan instruments instead as the detail on them is juts super ..
atb,
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atb,
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07-20-2011, 04:13 AM
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RE: CARF-Models P-47 Thunderbolt
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John, thanks for posting pics .. that pilot looks just right for that cockpit size... Im still waiting to hear from Inzpan if they will have a cockpit kit for the CARF P-47, .. if not im going with the Dbalsa kit and I will just use some of the inzpan instruments instead as the detail on them is juts super ..
atb,
~V~
John, thanks for posting pics .. that pilot looks just right for that cockpit size... Im still waiting to hear from Inzpan if they will have a cockpit kit for the CARF P-47, .. if not im going with the Dbalsa kit and I will just use some of the inzpan instruments instead as the detail on them is juts super ..
atb,
~V~
It is my understanding that Inzpan needs the cockpit measurements and they will get started. If someone that has their CARFP47 would do this, it could help get things moving with them.
07-20-2011, 06:24 AM
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RE: CARF-Models P-47 Thunderbolt
http://www.meister-scale.com/Premium.../USPilots.html
meisterscale has them. We are using them in the Comp-arf corsair
Scott
meisterscale has them. We are using them in the Comp-arf corsair
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07-21-2011, 04:35 PM
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RE: CARF-Models P-47 Thunderbolt
ORIGINAL: IFLYBVM2
Hi John-Thanks so much-Looks like the Fighteraces pilot should work just fine. Regards-Mike
Hi John-Thanks so much-Looks like the Fighteraces pilot should work just fine. Regards-Mike
Have just discovered that you can shorten both arms and legs on the pilot ,bit slow over 60.
REGARDS
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07-24-2011, 06:39 AM
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RE: CARF-Models P-47 Thunderbolt
Had the pleasure of watching Richard put some flights in with his new bird yesterday at there warbird flyin.For you guys building this now all I can say is it flys as great as it looks.Nice job Rich and that first tailwheel drop was fun to watch!
07-24-2011, 04:10 PM
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RE: CARF-Models P-47 Thunderbolt
Here is that fabled landing with NO TAILWHEEL! What happened is that the night before I removed the restrictor that slowed my gear door/tailwheel circuit. I thought that by doing that, I would resolve the issue with the right inner main gear door not coming up. I could get it to come up with a hesitation roll, but I wanted it to just come up reliably all the time and I figured that removing the restrictor on that circuit would fix it... IT DID! BUT, it caused the tailwheel to get hung up on the rudder cables. As I landed the plane and began feeding in left rudder (as the plane was drifting right) it somehow came loose from the cable and popped out just as the tail was settling!![X(]
No amount of high G maneuvers or even the hard set down managed to get it to pop out.. just the left rudder input.... JUST in the nick o' time!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lG1CmS7MrQM
No amount of high G maneuvers or even the hard set down managed to get it to pop out.. just the left rudder input.... JUST in the nick o' time!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lG1CmS7MrQM
07-25-2011, 02:51 PM
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RE: CARF-Models P-47 Thunderbolt
Richard,
What size servo arms are you using for each control surface. I did not see it in the instructions (recommendation) or if you already stated, I apologize for asking again. On the ailerons, it looks like 1in., flaps and elevator 1.5in. and rudder 3in???
Thanks for your help!
Tim
What size servo arms are you using for each control surface. I did not see it in the instructions (recommendation) or if you already stated, I apologize for asking again. On the ailerons, it looks like 1in., flaps and elevator 1.5in. and rudder 3in???
Thanks for your help!
Tim