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Old 05-17-2011 | 05:10 AM
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...all just different distributors of the same aircraft? What is the relationship(?) between these companies. Any understanding would be helpful. Thanks in advance.

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Not to sure about CMP, but YT International and KMP are ESM aircraft. Middleman is the only difference. YT is Europe and KMP or ARFPro are the NA distributors. KMP doesn't carry the 71" FW-190 for some reason.
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Ok ESM And KMP are not the same anymore. They are produced in different factories.

At one time all ESM products were brought into the US By KMP and given the KMP name. Then there became a problem and KMP stopped inporting the ESM Line. The KMP Name is still associated with some of the ESM Line of Products.. Fw190-A,Stuka and others. The ESM Models began to be the imported by Troy Built Models and finally it fell to ARFpros.

KMP is now having their own line made in a different factory than ESM. And to make it even more confusing KMP is now importing the ESM Line again into Canada.

KMP and ESM both have a T-28 and a FW 190D-9 out at the same time to really confuse everybody.

Hope this clears everything up

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oh heck, not again

KMP having nothing to do with the ESM line, apart from being the canadien importers, they also have their own KMP brand kits, and very nice they are too

YT are the BRITISH importers, and dsigners of some of the range

Lindinger are the main european importers,

ARF pro are the American importers,

CMP are nothing to do with the ESM brand, thomas, at VQ models is the number one man for help, advice, product availabiliity of all things warbird from a lot of warbird importers, his passion for warbirds is awe inspiring

fockewulf 37, on here, is THE MAN, when it comes to after market parts for the ESM brand, cockpits, accesories, canopys etc,

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Hey Ty where can I get wheel pants for the D Stuka.
Old 05-18-2011 | 05:14 AM
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Thanks for the replies. Tried to do a search, to no avail. It IS confusing!

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I thought there was a rumor that CMP was making the new KMP line
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Good luck, if you find some let me know. Practically everyone that owns the model has had some kind of trouble with the wheel pants cracking, and as is typical with ESM planes, there are no replacement parts available.
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I thought there was a rumor that CMP was making the new KMP line
thats some dangerous words buddy! LOL!
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Good luck, if you find some let me know. Practically everyone that owns the model has had some kind of trouble with the wheel pants cracking, and as is typical with ESM planes, there are no replacement parts available.
Maybe Ty should work a deal with CMP, KMP, VQ, & ESM to broker replacement parts. a win/win if you ask me.
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Ok I have a wife and 2 kids and I would like to keep them. If I get anymore busy I would loose in the long run...

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LOL, Kids ? Wife ? overseas that sounds like a good work force lol

Greg I know it sounds dangerous but when you look at the designs and some of the inherant trademarks of a CMP plane and then look at the new KMP ,you have to ask
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Ok I have a friend that may send me a wheel pant for the Stuka. I will see if it is feasible to make a mold from it. So I could make a fiberglass replacement part.. Have you tried ARFpros for wheel pants??

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No I have`nt, I`ll do a check, but it would be nice if you start to make them. I did not see any on the ESM site. I got cowl and canopy from there but no pants. I wonder if fiberglass specialties has any?
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Check around that would save me from making them...
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Ive got wheel pants for the B stuka if you wanna use those.....in fact....I have the whole wing that is undamaged. The fuse, however, well, it aint gonna see day light again.
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Hehe. In Spain= Aeroglow, Germany=Planet hobby, Rest of Europe and Scandinavia=ESM, UK=YT.
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Thanks for the offer Kahloq, actually what I have is a Ziroli Stuka reduced to 80" and converted to a D model. So far I have the canopy and cowl of the ESM Stuka. I was trying to avoid making my own pants which I`m not good at doing. The B pants are a bit different than the D. Thanks any way. Guess I`ll have to start carving. Here goes..
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Old 05-20-2011 | 11:24 PM
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Here you go Ty, I`m not the only one that would like some pants.


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