Spitfire Brotherhood (All Spitfires Welcome)
11-24-2012, 01:23 PM
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RE: Spitfire Brotherhood (All Spitfires Welcome)
Well RPRCBuilder has started on the 1/7 TF Spitfire. He has punched out and cleaned up all of the die-crunch parts.
Been awhile since I have seen this method of cutting parts, but times have changed. This is an older kit, but is the newer kits laser cut?
He has been working on the stab and tail flight control surfaces, so there are some parts looking like they belong to an airplane now.
I will keep everyone posted.
Been awhile since I have seen this method of cutting parts, but times have changed. This is an older kit, but is the newer kits laser cut?
He has been working on the stab and tail flight control surfaces, so there are some parts looking like they belong to an airplane now.
I will keep everyone posted.
11-24-2012, 03:22 PM
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Hi Sonny,
looking really nice.
I know what you're saying with the sheeting. I just look at my Hangar 9 and the sheeting brakes.
At least you are able to fiberglass it yet and make it strong. I would have to take all the monokote off
and start from scratch. Luckily it's not in a structurally important area where my sheeting has cracked
in 2 spots. I was able to CA it from the inside and the monokote does not show it from the outside.
So, I think it will be ok, I hope.
Andreas
looking really nice.
I know what you're saying with the sheeting. I just look at my Hangar 9 and the sheeting brakes.
At least you are able to fiberglass it yet and make it strong. I would have to take all the monokote off
and start from scratch. Luckily it's not in a structurally important area where my sheeting has cracked
in 2 spots. I was able to CA it from the inside and the monokote does not show it from the outside.
So, I think it will be ok, I hope.
Andreas
11-24-2012, 03:53 PM
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RE: Spitfire Brotherhood (All Spitfires Welcome)
Vasek,
Back in the 70's when I was a young lad building control line and entering my earlier RC years we would build with wood glues. It took forever to build due to having to wait for the glue to dry, so we had time for mini-bikes and baseball too. After awhile we would glue some more parts together and go play again. It was some time later that I was introduced to CA. Since then I have met other long time builders who only use CA for tacking parts prior to using wood glues for primary structures.
Well RPRCBuilder is one of the remaining builders who still believe in wood glue over CA.
It is a pleasure watching him work. I envy his skill and talent for craftsmanship.
Back in the 70's when I was a young lad building control line and entering my earlier RC years we would build with wood glues. It took forever to build due to having to wait for the glue to dry, so we had time for mini-bikes and baseball too. After awhile we would glue some more parts together and go play again. It was some time later that I was introduced to CA. Since then I have met other long time builders who only use CA for tacking parts prior to using wood glues for primary structures.
Well RPRCBuilder is one of the remaining builders who still believe in wood glue over CA.
It is a pleasure watching him work. I envy his skill and talent for craftsmanship.
11-24-2012, 06:42 PM
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Steve;
The kit I have was laser cut!! The parts would fall out with not much push. Just looking at RPRCBuilder work shop he is what I call a Master Builder!!! I still use wood glue on all my build. I take CA to tack a part in place, but wood glue make the bond. I know now days people don't have the time to build, but to sit back and watch a Master Builder take a box full of wood parts and plans, turn it into a work of art.
Yes please keep the pictures coming on his build. But the best thing, your son get to see him work!!!
Sonny
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jet22b
The kit I have was laser cut!! The parts would fall out with not much push. Just looking at RPRCBuilder work shop he is what I call a Master Builder!!! I still use wood glue on all my build. I take CA to tack a part in place, but wood glue make the bond. I know now days people don't have the time to build, but to sit back and watch a Master Builder take a box full of wood parts and plans, turn it into a work of art.
Yes please keep the pictures coming on his build. But the best thing, your son get to see him work!!!
Sonny
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jet22b
11-24-2012, 06:57 PM
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Hi Sonny,
looking really nice.[img][/img]
I know what you're saying with the sheeting. I just look at my Hangar 9 and the sheeting brakes.
At least you are able to fiberglass it yet and make it strong. I would have to take all the monokote off
and start from scratch. Luckily it's not in a structurally important area where my sheeting has cracked
in 2 spots. I was able to CA it from the inside and the monokote does not show it from the outside.
So, I think it will be ok, I hope. [img][/img]
Andreas
Hi Sonny,
looking really nice.[img][/img]
I know what you're saying with the sheeting. I just look at my Hangar 9 and the sheeting brakes.
At least you are able to fiberglass it yet and make it strong. I would have to take all the monokote off
and start from scratch. Luckily it's not in a structurally important area where my sheeting has cracked
in 2 spots. I was able to CA it from the inside and the monokote does not show it from the outside.
So, I think it will be ok, I hope. [img][/img]
Andreas
Thanks!!!
I had the same thing on my Hangar 9 Spit!! I have the same set-up on my Hangar 9 Spit, like you have. Just wait until you start her up. You are going to enjoy it. On my maiden flight, I fill her tank with 30% heli-mix fuel ( this fuel make a lot of smoke ), and it was a blast to see smoke going over the wings. One draw back, your plane will be a mess at the end of a flying day, but, that's how war bird should look!!!
Right???Come back with your flight report when you fly her. She is a keeper!!
Sonny
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11-24-2012, 07:32 PM
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Steve,
Ditto. Keep the build pics coming. I always love to follow a build done by fellow
modelers that have lots of experience.
Sonny,
There is still a lot to be done on the aircraft.
The flight report will have to wait until March or April when the snow is gone.
The fingers don't want to work the transmitter gimbals well at -14c
and I haven't seen a Spitfire on skis yet.
Dare I try.
I opened up a can of worms trying to install the Topflite cockpit into my Hangar 9 Spit.
The side panels are way too high and the instrument panel is too large.
This will need a bit of modifying
Will see how it goes.
Andreas
Ditto. Keep the build pics coming. I always love to follow a build done by fellow
modelers that have lots of experience.
Sonny,
There is still a lot to be done on the aircraft.
The flight report will have to wait until March or April when the snow is gone.
The fingers don't want to work the transmitter gimbals well at -14c
and I haven't seen a Spitfire on skis yet.
Dare I try.
I opened up a can of worms trying to install the Topflite cockpit into my Hangar 9 Spit.
The side panels are way too high and the instrument panel is too large.
This will need a bit of modifying
Will see how it goes.
Andreas
11-24-2012, 10:14 PM
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Well, more late night reading. If you discover your name here it is because I have been reading the thread and wondered how the other members of the brotherhood are doing.
lovehydro, crash bandicoute, YellowAircraft, flyingchef, thrawn150, j-d, dennymo, H.Dale, bonemadderek, discusmike, Ham639, Orvis, tclocs, CRJDriver, David Bathe, stimul8tor, hockeypilot, JoeSpitfire, SIX GUNS, spadsriver09, AlphaWhisky, ForcesR, rogera, BobH, markhamregular, Jetjockey_3, dubs1946, 77chickenhawk, JL636, hellcat56, wpdunn3, warbird_1, shanksow, 2001az
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11-25-2012, 09:27 AM
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Andreas ,
Please take you time on the flight report!! I flew my T-Rex 700 helicopter last year in the snow and a 5 min flight was not fun!!! You are so right, the fingers do not last long!! I think I will look on the web today, to see if I can find a picture of a full scale Spitfire on skis!!! Last year someone post a video on you-tube of a H9 Blue Nose P-51 on skis and it flew great!!
Sonny
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Please take you time on the flight report!! I flew my T-Rex 700 helicopter last year in the snow and a 5 min flight was not fun!!! You are so right, the fingers do not last long!! I think I will look on the web today, to see if I can find a picture of a full scale Spitfire on skis!!! Last year someone post a video on you-tube of a H9 Blue Nose P-51 on skis and it flew great!!
Sonny
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jet22b
11-25-2012, 11:23 AM
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I just finished converting my ESM Spitfire from a OS 120 AX to a DLE 20. The conversion was surprisingly easy as the DLE 20 fit in the same mount and as the 120 AX. Even more amazing, the engine bolt holes lined up perfectly. All I had to do was install a new tank, run a new throttle line, and install the ignition next to the tank. I also used a JTec wrap around muffler.
11-25-2012, 12:17 PM
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I just finished converting my ESM Spitfire from a OS 120 AX to a DLE 20. The conversion was surprisingly easy as the DLE 20 fit in the same mount and as the 120 AX. Even more amazing, the engine bolt holes lined up perfectly. All I had to do was install a new tank, run a new throttle line, and install the ignition next to the tank. I also used a JTec wrap around muffler.
I just finished converting my ESM Spitfire from a OS 120 AX to a DLE 20. The conversion was surprisingly easy as the DLE 20 fit in the same mount and as the 120 AX. Even more amazing, the engine bolt holes lined up perfectly. All I had to do was install a new tank, run a new throttle line, and install the ignition next to the tank. I also used a JTec wrap around muffler.
11-25-2012, 04:19 PM
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ORIGINAL: tevans55
I just finished converting my ESM Spitfire from a OS 120 AX to a DLE 20. The conversion was surprisingly easy as the DLE 20 fit in the same mount and as the 120 AX. Even more amazing, the engine bolt holes lined up perfectly. All I had to do was install a new tank, run a new throttle line, and install the ignition next to the tank. I also used a JTec wrap around muffler.
I just finished converting my ESM Spitfire from a OS 120 AX to a DLE 20. The conversion was surprisingly easy as the DLE 20 fit in the same mount and as the 120 AX. Even more amazing, the engine bolt holes lined up perfectly. All I had to do was install a new tank, run a new throttle line, and install the ignition next to the tank. I also used a JTec wrap around muffler.
11-25-2012, 04:22 PM
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ORIGINAL: WARBIRDRCER
Brotherhood Update, we now have 142 in our squadron.
Welcome all!
Spitfire Brotherhood
Start Date: 12-28-2011
Current Date: 11-27-2012
Roster
1.Warbirdrcer
1.5 Talimena Kidd
2.tfarmer96
3.KP
4.Helijet
5.Brad3301
6.MajorTomski
7.Daddysam
8.FireBee
9.denoferth
10.Landeck
11.jcpenney
12.jet22b
13.funfly-RCU
14.flyingpiggy
15.glazier808
16.Super Chief
17.verbails
18.jetjockey 3
19.triumphman49
20.Trent Smith
21.rtigg
22.saito18
23.warbirdguy
24.stephanmk1
25.Rotten40851
26. kenair
27.aerofalcon
28.DGUY
29.dasintex
30.Chad Veich
31.Asanders
32.hy flyr
33.dgiokas
34.Capt Easy
35.Meschmidt
36.Cal Branton
37.Pitts532M
38.dennymo
39.lovehydro
40.YellowAircraft
41.flyingchef
42.thrawn150
43.j-d
44.tevans55
45.H. Dale
46.bonemadderek
47.flyntruk
48.discusmike
49.HAM639
50.redtail
51.barron
52.Saramos
53.discusmike
54.tclocs
55.Vasek
56.Saburo Sakai
57.Nordicz
58.Orvis
59.Tony Iannucelli
60.Lifer
61.Crash Bandicoute
62.CRJDriver
63.fytrjok
64.mad web tv scientist
65.David Bathe
66.77chickenhawk
67.stimul8tor
68.hockeypilot
69.JoeSpitfire
70.Flakbait
71.SIX GUNS
72.spadsriver09
73.ForcesR
74.rogera
75.Hairy46
76.markhamregular
77.JL636
78.wpdunn3
79.Warbird 1
80.Moparmaniac
81.moto-x
82.baldeagle
83.2001az
84.schulze rocks
85.Skopik
86.Syd Byrne
87.albsurfer
88.KiwiKid
89.shanksow
90.JORDY200
91.mistermnkim
92.SuchIsLife
93.RCdude13
94.wphilb
95.hal_bert
96.prgonzalez
97.bogeyp38
98.TwinTurboZ
99.Jimmy Skids
100. SafetyWrench
101. Peter OZ
102. Old Navy Flyer
103. tahfiet
104. Pakcikjo
105. marquisvns
106. TheEdge
107. ahgoodman
108. F4u5
109. rcnats
110. John Taylor
111. Larry Kruse
112. Jim Reynolds
113. skysnake
114. Spitfire7856
115. Eds Trek
116. P51Tom
117. Wayne
118. Jimm
119. SteveD-RCU
120. jln1320
121. Moggy
122. 108buzz
123. Tobbe
124. blkangus
125. Mark Franke
126. Phat Reliant
127. flygono
128. Ford34tom
129. Seamus OLeprosy
130. facia
131. catboater
132. Chucksolo69
133. Hooton Park
134. perttime
135. spura
136. oo7fly4fun
137. RPRCBuilder
138. Scratchbuilder46
139. jchtr3a/John Harrigal
140. DLap
141. Klap
142. Capstan
If you would like to join the Spitfire Brotherhood please send me a PM, e-mail right here from RCU, or just make your request on this thread. I will track and assign you a number.
Never can tell when you may run into another Spitfire Brother somewhere, so join now.
Brotherhood Update, we now have 142 in our squadron.
Welcome all!
Spitfire Brotherhood
Start Date: 12-28-2011
Current Date: 11-27-2012
Roster
1.Warbirdrcer
1.5 Talimena Kidd
2.tfarmer96
3.KP
4.Helijet
5.Brad3301
6.MajorTomski
7.Daddysam
8.FireBee
9.denoferth
10.Landeck
11.jcpenney
12.jet22b
13.funfly-RCU
14.flyingpiggy
15.glazier808
16.Super Chief
17.verbails
18.jetjockey 3
19.triumphman49
20.Trent Smith
21.rtigg
22.saito18
23.warbirdguy
24.stephanmk1
25.Rotten40851
26. kenair
27.aerofalcon
28.DGUY
29.dasintex
30.Chad Veich
31.Asanders
32.hy flyr
33.dgiokas
34.Capt Easy
35.Meschmidt
36.Cal Branton
37.Pitts532M
38.dennymo
39.lovehydro
40.YellowAircraft
41.flyingchef
42.thrawn150
43.j-d
44.tevans55
45.H. Dale
46.bonemadderek
47.flyntruk
48.discusmike
49.HAM639
50.redtail
51.barron
52.Saramos
53.discusmike
54.tclocs
55.Vasek
56.Saburo Sakai
57.Nordicz
58.Orvis
59.Tony Iannucelli
60.Lifer
61.Crash Bandicoute
62.CRJDriver
63.fytrjok
64.mad web tv scientist
65.David Bathe
66.77chickenhawk
67.stimul8tor
68.hockeypilot
69.JoeSpitfire
70.Flakbait
71.SIX GUNS
72.spadsriver09
73.ForcesR
74.rogera
75.Hairy46
76.markhamregular
77.JL636
78.wpdunn3
79.Warbird 1
80.Moparmaniac
81.moto-x
82.baldeagle
83.2001az
84.schulze rocks
85.Skopik
86.Syd Byrne
87.albsurfer
88.KiwiKid
89.shanksow
90.JORDY200
91.mistermnkim
92.SuchIsLife
93.RCdude13
94.wphilb
95.hal_bert
96.prgonzalez
97.bogeyp38
98.TwinTurboZ
99.Jimmy Skids
100. SafetyWrench
101. Peter OZ
102. Old Navy Flyer
103. tahfiet
104. Pakcikjo
105. marquisvns
106. TheEdge
107. ahgoodman
108. F4u5
109. rcnats
110. John Taylor
111. Larry Kruse
112. Jim Reynolds
113. skysnake
114. Spitfire7856
115. Eds Trek
116. P51Tom
117. Wayne
118. Jimm
119. SteveD-RCU
120. jln1320
121. Moggy
122. 108buzz
123. Tobbe
124. blkangus
125. Mark Franke
126. Phat Reliant
127. flygono
128. Ford34tom
129. Seamus OLeprosy
130. facia
131. catboater
132. Chucksolo69
133. Hooton Park
134. perttime
135. spura
136. oo7fly4fun
137. RPRCBuilder
138. Scratchbuilder46
139. jchtr3a/John Harrigal
140. DLap
141. Klap
142. Capstan
If you would like to join the Spitfire Brotherhood please send me a PM, e-mail right here from RCU, or just make your request on this thread. I will track and assign you a number.
Never can tell when you may run into another Spitfire Brother somewhere, so join now.
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11-25-2012, 04:58 PM
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WARBIRDRCER did you think that this would ever get this big?. I have not been on the RCU web site for awhile because of building
my MEISTER spitfire how many are from across the big pond ??
Jim
my MEISTER spitfire how many are from across the big pond ??
Jim
11-25-2012, 06:17 PM
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WARBIRDRCER did you think that this would ever get this big?. I have not been on the RCU web site for awhile because of building
my MEISTER spitfire how many are from across the big pond ??
Jim
WARBIRDRCER did you think that this would ever get this big?. I have not been on the RCU web site for awhile because of building
my MEISTER spitfire how many are from across the big pond ??
Jim
This is great! This shows how small our world really is, and we all share and support our common intrest.
Steve
11-25-2012, 07:06 PM
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Jet22b, yes fiberglass the bird.
Your wing skins are there to hold the shape. When you fiberglass it will give it the strength you want. Use .75 oz or lighter cloth throughout. Keep the tail light as possible. Maybe even go back and see if you can sand down another 1/4 ounce out of the tail feathers. You could add a second layer over the key high stress areas like the landing gear area, top an bottom of wings.
Good luck.
R, mike
Your wing skins are there to hold the shape. When you fiberglass it will give it the strength you want. Use .75 oz or lighter cloth throughout. Keep the tail light as possible. Maybe even go back and see if you can sand down another 1/4 ounce out of the tail feathers. You could add a second layer over the key high stress areas like the landing gear area, top an bottom of wings.
Good luck.
R, mike
11-25-2012, 07:48 PM
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Jet22b, yes fiberglass the bird.
Your wing skins are there to hold the shape. When you fiberglass it will give it the strength you want. Use .75 oz or lighter cloth throughout. Keep the tail light as possible. Maybe even go back and see if you can sand down another 1/4 ounce out of the tail feathers. You could add a second layer over the key high stress areas like the landing gear area, top an bottom of wings.
Good luck.
R, mike
Jet22b, yes fiberglass the bird.
Your wing skins are there to hold the shape. When you fiberglass it will give it the strength you want. Use .75 oz or lighter cloth throughout. Keep the tail light as possible. Maybe even go back and see if you can sand down another 1/4 ounce out of the tail feathers. You could add a second layer over the key high stress areas like the landing gear area, top an bottom of wings.
Good luck.
R, mike
I was in the shop today looking at the wing and glass is the way to go!! I knew about the tail and not to have to much weight back there, by other build thread here on RCU!! I am going with .75 oz cloth or lighter if I can find it. The skin sheeting is just to thin for my liking. I still have a lot of sanding to do on the tail. Now the only draw back is to find a local hobby shop that sell the good stuff to finish a plane. I have two local shop that I go to and the only paint they sell is for RC cars!!!
Thank you again for your in-put. I will post pictures of my work!!!
Sonny
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11-26-2012, 03:58 AM
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I guess you can count me in for number 15?
Fliteskin MkIX on the bench
Casey
I guess you can count me in for number 15?
Fliteskin MkIX on the bench
Casey
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11-26-2012, 07:15 AM
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I am not having much luck lately with my Spitfires. I tried to maiden my kit built TF MK IX in early October but the new gas Saito FG-20 seized solid during the last chance, full throttle check before launch. Got the engine back from HH, the problem was a faulty connecting rod that seized to the crank. It was not my fault according to HH, there was a bad batch of connecting rods that got installed in some of the FG-20’s. The weather did not co-operate this past weekend to complete the maiden. Hopefully next weekend will be ideal for the maiden, if not I will have to wait until spring.
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In the mean time, I was trying to complete the assembly of my ESM 50cc Spitfire, this ARF has been a complete nightmare since the start of assembly. The only item left to install is the engine, but the engine mount cylinder/tube is way too large to install in the fuselage access hole. It’s oversized by 1.7mm or 3/32”. I have a replacement engine mount on order, just waiting for delivery.
Roger
11-26-2012, 09:19 AM
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twospitfire's scale event in israel.
the two spit's is from composite arf and with da85 engines.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6v48vCTTmk&feature=plcp
11-26-2012, 10:18 AM
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RE: Spitfire Brotherhood (All Spitfires Welcome)
Hello Shaked,
Greetings from Virginia Beach USA. I just noticed one of your spitfires is "GZ-?". Well, the restored spitfire GZ-? resides here in Va. Beach at the Military Aviation Museum's vast collection. It flies regularly during their May Airshow. It's quite interesting that you fly that RC spit over there in Israel. The airframe used to restore GZ-? was salvaged from a school yard in Israel. Attached are a couple of pictures of GZ-?. Enjoy.
Pert
Greetings from Virginia Beach USA. I just noticed one of your spitfires is "GZ-?". Well, the restored spitfire GZ-? resides here in Va. Beach at the Military Aviation Museum's vast collection. It flies regularly during their May Airshow. It's quite interesting that you fly that RC spit over there in Israel. The airframe used to restore GZ-? was salvaged from a school yard in Israel. Attached are a couple of pictures of GZ-?. Enjoy.
Pert
11-26-2012, 11:33 AM
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Ham639 update:
Ok Spitty fans-
Just an update on the Ziroli Spitfires.
Both Spits have 8 flights on them and they are in storage for the winter here in Indiana as the snow will fly soon.
So far the engine-to-airframe combination is very good. I don't think I would go any smaller or bigger.
Our biggest problem has not been overheating but getting enough air in and out of the fus for the carb to breathe.
The solution has been to use the actual full scale carb intake for air in and the radiator for air out.
They are amazing in the air and the ground handling is very good as well.
Like all spits, keep the tail light and you be rewarded with a wonderful flying aircraft.
Cheers,
Chuck
Ok Spitty fans-
Just an update on the Ziroli Spitfires.
Both Spits have 8 flights on them and they are in storage for the winter here in Indiana as the snow will fly soon.
So far the engine-to-airframe combination is very good. I don't think I would go any smaller or bigger.
Our biggest problem has not been overheating but getting enough air in and out of the fus for the carb to breathe.
The solution has been to use the actual full scale carb intake for air in and the radiator for air out.
They are amazing in the air and the ground handling is very good as well.
Like all spits, keep the tail light and you be rewarded with a wonderful flying aircraft.
Cheers,
Chuck
11-26-2012, 02:29 PM
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RE: Spitfire Brotherhood (All Spitfires Welcome)
Ham639,
smart move on the air intake. I have a flying buddy that recommended that on one of my .46 planes a few years back and it worked on that plane.
Beautiful pair of Spitfires!
Sorry you have to hangar them already.
smart move on the air intake. I have a flying buddy that recommended that on one of my .46 planes a few years back and it worked on that plane.
Beautiful pair of Spitfires!
Sorry you have to hangar them already.