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Old 07-25-2013, 01:28 AM
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Hi "Manfred".

I bought the "Solo" set up way back in 2009 for my T/F Giant Corsair which I started to build then................it's about 90% finished,then this H9 Corsair came along !!! so quite a few years of building going on to the "back-burner" !!! Plus I was going to use a G62 ( sold that ) on it for power,then bought a Saito 450 R3 to power it.......so the BNIB Saito is too large to fit the H9 Corsair,guess I will end up having two large Corsairs at the moment !!!

The total cost for the Solo set up incl shipping then was around $570........( this included 6 blades for the hub ).

Kind regards............Nick (UK).
Old 07-25-2013, 01:31 AM
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Hi Sean.

How much price difference is there for you in Aus between the Saito and Evo.............???

Cheers..........Nick.
Old 07-25-2013, 01:43 AM
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Hi Sean.

On the "E-Flite" lighting side...........if you are going to use the items they suggest in the optional lists.............the controller will have a voltage of 5.5V MAX ( otherwise damage will occur to it ).I am running a seperate 1S Lipo at 1050mA for the power source for this. ( easily done by using a "Y" lead and the +ve lead from the controller removed from the plug that connects into the Rx switching channel,the "Y" lead being used with an on/off switch to power up the controller ).

My Rx system will be using a 6Volt suppy,so too much for the light controller to handle all the time.

Kind regards............Nick (UK).
Old 07-25-2013, 04:06 AM
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Hi Nick. I am also planning a separate battery for the lighting and regulated 6V for the Rx. Not sure about the comparative prices of the 777 and FG57 here in Australia. Based on Horizon's US website, I think they will be similar. The 777 is about AUD1500. A much cheaper gas option would be a Zenoah 62, but I still like the Saito twin. Cheers. Sean.
Old 07-25-2013, 02:10 PM
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Not sure why anyone would use a zenoah in a plane this nice.
Old 07-25-2013, 03:45 PM
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Hmmm... Lets see, um, just from my experiences with Zenoah engines, nose weight, spring starter and um simple reliability and like mentioned...PRICE.. Just a few reasons. And you're not going to see it behind that dummy radial. Personally, I love the plane and can't wait to get it but I'm not going crazy on a something that potentially can become a lawn dart with an expensive motor up front just because it's Purdy..lol

I'd rather place a good reliable engine in it to ensure that it stays Purdy instead of a "T" in the ground..TBD
Old 07-25-2013, 06:31 PM
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Hmmm... Lets see, um, just from my experiences with Zenoah engines, nose weight, spring starter and um simple reliability and like mentioned...PRICE.. Just a few reasons. And you're not going to see it behind that dummy radial. Personally, I love the plane and can't wait to get it but I'm not going crazy on a something that potentially can become a lawn dart with an expensive motor up front just because it's Purdy..lol

I'd rather place a good reliable engine in it to ensure that it stays Purdy instead of a ''T'' in the ground..TBD
+1 Ram! I can't recall ever having had a dead stick on a Zenoah engine.
Old 07-26-2013, 09:43 AM
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Not sure why anyone would use a zenoah in a plane this nice.
Completely disagree. Quite frankly, a Zenoah would be my first choice for the Corsair. Yes we all know they are heavy but.......

Zenoah = incredible reliability.

S

Old 07-29-2013, 02:54 PM
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NJMHELI - What size (Diameter) SOLO are you running on the 7-77 engine? G61?

Like you .. I use the Biela or the Solo set ups - crazy expensive but really make the plane stand out. Super Quality too.

Side note: What power/prop set up in the P47 in the backgroud ... I guess i'm a gear head techie who likes info.

Here is the Biela on my latest hangar project while waiting on Corsair inventory. The Saito 3-450 would be sweet if it would fit. I am betting the MOKI would be tight if at all as well.
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Old 07-29-2013, 03:25 PM
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Hi.

The 7-77 is / was going to run on the "Solo" 22" x 10 3BL setting.........I have sent the "SOLO" hub back to Wayne at Solo Props as I think that I have a slight problem with the "threads" on the pitch dial and actuator...must say that this was my own "making".......so hope to get that back in a couple of weeks.

I have ordered in the mean-time a 22" x10 Biela Corsair prop to continue to run-in the 7-77.........what a lovely radial,appears to have plenty of power for the H9 Corsair,well,enough for me and to fly pretty near scale I think !!

The P-47 ( I did quite a bit of posting on the build forum,that John Redman started with my build ideas etc )........she has a OSGT55,with a tru-turn ( modified at tru-turn,shorter length) Spinner and a 19" x 8 4BL Biela "Mustang" prop.......again appears to have plenty of pull........still got to maiden her yet !!! But that will be very soon....just still awaiting my flying buddy to finish of his T/F ARF Giant P-47,to fly his maiden aswell.

I have a BNIB Saito 450 R3,but as said before too big to fit in the H9 60cc Corsair.........BUT I also have a FS Corsair cowl ( that was going to go on my T/F Giant Corsair )...which should be slightly bigger than the H9 60cc Corsair cowl.....so out of interest,when the H9 C arrives,would be interesting to see how it fits / looks.As mentioned on this thread,the 450 could fit,even with right thrust + may be some down thrust,if the RS cowl is just that bit larger to allow for "rocker" clearance...!!!

Regards..............Nick (UK).
Old 07-29-2013, 04:17 PM
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TBM may have a 3Blade 24" prop in the near  future that would be a good option for the 777.  This is the 20" with a pitch range of 10 to 14" ...   it's on an ESM Corsair with a DLE60.  

price is great for the set up.  

Old 07-29-2013, 04:30 PM
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Well some parts are showing up at Horizon, they shipped my electric main gear and wheels....

As for the engine debate, those will always go on and us guys at higher elevations above Sea Level need bigger engines. Soo.... Since I want one of those nifty big Solo props, mine will be getting a ZDZ-90RV-J. That should easily be able to swing a 24" three blade and maybe bigger. Now I've not bought a ZDZ since TBM took over for RCS but with AMR on the scene a new ZDZ is definitely an option. While I really like my DA-60 and DA-120 engines, that 85 is a reall shaker and requires some special mounting considerations since you cannot use standoffs. The big ZDZ is a whole bunch smoother running engine.

Okay, standing by with flame suit on waiting for all the "it won't fly scale" comments....
Old 07-30-2013, 01:48 AM
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Hi all. The official word is that the H9 Corsair 60cc will be available in Australia in mid September. Sean
Old 07-30-2013, 06:18 AM
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What's the point of saving weight on the engine just to replace it with lead? There's no way this thing isn't going to need nose weight, I'd rather it be functional.
Old 07-30-2013, 06:24 AM
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Got a look at the elec gear for this thing yesterday and.... looks a bit light in the Robart way. Guess I'm used to looking at the Sierra gear for the Carf Corsair. But for $600 the robarts look a bit flimsy. I wonder if Darrel would produce a set for this ship?
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Got a look at the elec gear for this thing yesterday and.... looks a bit light in the Robart way. Guess I'm used to looking at the Sierra gear for the Carf Corsair. But for $600 the robarts look a bit flimsy. I wonder if Darrel would produce a set for this ship?
Well I got my electric main gear today and after putting Sierras in my last model, it's definitely a let down looking at the Robarts. However, when I contacted Down & Locked about converting my Sierras they wanted $350.00 on top of the $425.00 I gave Darrell. Sorry but the Robart price tag was quite enough.

On another note with typical Robart efficiency, the box had a label saying who packed it, or at least his number. Didn't do a lot of good as the pivot point of the sissors on one gear had been shoved through the bottom of the box. While looking at them to see if I could detect a bend in those stamped steel sissors, I noticed the attach point on the bottom of the oleo strut was in a different place on the two gear assemblies.

Called Horizon, was advised that Robart will be handling service for this gear set and I should call them tomorrow.....

Oh well, the main gear tires and wheels do look nice.
Old 07-30-2013, 05:13 PM
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Hey Zeeb. Can you post pictures of the problem with the Robart retracts? Thanks. Sean
Old 07-31-2013, 04:47 AM
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Yes please
Old 08-01-2013, 12:14 PM
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Hey Zeeb. Can you post pictures of the problem with the Robart retracts? Thanks. Sean
Okay I got Robart on the phone and one of the collars for the lower attach of the main gear scissors is out ot place. This is an issue because if the distance is wrong you'll have issues getting the gear retracted into it's cutout in the wing. The other possible problem is stress on the tube if it's too far out of the housing.

Soo....

Robart says the gear is supposed to be 8" from the pivot point to the center of the axle. If you look at this pic, you'll see that the top strut has the attach collar about midway on the barrel, this is wrong. The bottom strut has the collar located in the appropriate location to produce the 8" dimension that is desired.

Hope it helps....
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Old 08-01-2013, 01:57 PM
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Thanks Zeeb.
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Thanks a lot zebb
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Originally Posted by skillet92
I was less concerned about the price as I was about the weight. The 80 mustang they sell, which I have, came in at 15pounds 11ozs. And I used a dle 35 and robart electric retracts. This one is say 28-32. A lot of weight to me for a 85 inch wing span. It looks good in the video and I might still pull the trigger and get one. Just have to let others be the first on this one.
28-32 pounds is the sweet spot for a Corsair this size.

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Originally Posted by smaze17
Completely disagree. Quite frankly, a Zenoah would be my first choice for the Corsair. Yes we all know they are heavy but.......

Zenoah = incredible reliability.

S
Ditto that, and most bang for the buck. Nice nose weight as well.

Jeff
Old 08-10-2013, 05:42 AM
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I do like Zenoah G62, got 3 of them. The ZP 62 is only a bit over 400 bucks and not heavy at all. Got one in a TF ARF Corsair.
But I think the best motor option for this bird is DLE 85 based on all categories of cost/power/weight.
Got mine for $475 shipped from Tower with Gold discount.
It will swing a nice big 24" 3 bl prop to look more scale than wimpy 22" prop.
Weighs only a pound more than DA 50.
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Can't wait have a hangar 9 f4u coarsair + saito 450 + robart electric retracts + scale wheels + Sullivan glow igniter + Sbus .... Should be on the building board soon ....

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