FIRST WARBIRD - What to buy?
06-04-2006, 10:28 AM
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FIRST WARBIRD - What to buy?
Hey Gents,
I am new to all this and I know you probably answered this question a million times. I am looking at purchasing a 60 scale WB. I am a relatively new flyer, and want to start on the second plane for my hanger. Is there a WB that is an easier fly? Is there a particular company that would make an easier model to complete but still operate well? The three guys I fly with all have P 51s so I would like to Vere away from that if possible. I'm partial to more detailed scale models, however, I am not a master builder by any means.
I have an engine picked out. SAITO FA 100 or 120 ( depending on plane), the controller is the JR Pro 6102 (PCM).
The candidates are: VQ MIG [link]http://www.vqwarbirds.com/products/aircraft/mig3.html[/link]
CMP Hellcat [link]http://www.cmpairplane.com/F6F%20Hellcat.htm[/link]
Hanger 9 Hellcat [link]http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=HAN4075[/link]
Hanger 9 Thunderbolt [link]http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=HAN2975[/link]
CMP Spitfire [link]http://www.cmpairplane.com/Spitfire-120.htm[/link]
I'm just trying to pick everyones brains and any help is GREATLY APPRECIATED!
I am new to all this and I know you probably answered this question a million times. I am looking at purchasing a 60 scale WB. I am a relatively new flyer, and want to start on the second plane for my hanger. Is there a WB that is an easier fly? Is there a particular company that would make an easier model to complete but still operate well? The three guys I fly with all have P 51s so I would like to Vere away from that if possible. I'm partial to more detailed scale models, however, I am not a master builder by any means.
I have an engine picked out. SAITO FA 100 or 120 ( depending on plane), the controller is the JR Pro 6102 (PCM).
The candidates are: VQ MIG [link]http://www.vqwarbirds.com/products/aircraft/mig3.html[/link]
CMP Hellcat [link]http://www.cmpairplane.com/F6F%20Hellcat.htm[/link]
Hanger 9 Hellcat [link]http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=HAN4075[/link]
Hanger 9 Thunderbolt [link]http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=HAN2975[/link]
CMP Spitfire [link]http://www.cmpairplane.com/Spitfire-120.htm[/link]
I'm just trying to pick everyones brains and any help is GREATLY APPRECIATED!
06-04-2006, 11:51 AM
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RE: FIRST WARBIRD - What to buy?
The 120 sized CMP warbirds fly well and some of them look very good. The Hellcat, zero, 140 size mustang, and p40 are excellent looking planes but I think the spitfire is way off in scale looks and can hardly be recognize as a spit.
06-04-2006, 12:10 PM
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RE: FIRST WARBIRD - What to buy?
I guess from what i hear the instructions on the CMPro stuff stink. Hanger 9 models instructions are decent and the quality is pretty good for the money. Personally i would steer toward your hangar 9 choices for the arf completeness(they include mechancial retracts), kit quality, and flight performance( most of there planes are reported to fly pretty well) I would lean more toward the Hellcat because if they stayed somewhat scale(i hear the scale outlines of their warbirds aren't the best) there should be a nice fat wing with lots of area to keep the wing loading down, making the plane easier to handle
06-04-2006, 12:51 PM
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Go with the Hangar 9 series.
The Saito 1.25 in my Hangar 9 P47 is a great combo!
The stock retracts work just fine and it flies like a low wing trainer.
Good Luck
The Saito 1.25 in my Hangar 9 P47 is a great combo!
The stock retracts work just fine and it flies like a low wing trainer.
Good Luck
06-04-2006, 02:05 PM
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RE: FIRST WARBIRD - What to buy?
I'd also stick with the Hangar 9 planes and most notably the P47, as the P47 in general is a good idea as a first War Bird IMO ( the P47 has good habits where some other choices can be touchy).
If you go to the Saito 120 then you might just as well get the 125, it's more powerful and lighter than the 120, since the 120 is the basis that the 150 and 180 are built from ( heavy casing). In reality the Saito 100 should do fine though till you get to a larger scale model.
David
If you go to the Saito 120 then you might just as well get the 125, it's more powerful and lighter than the 120, since the 120 is the basis that the 150 and 180 are built from ( heavy casing). In reality the Saito 100 should do fine though till you get to a larger scale model.
David
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Hey Gents,
I am new to all this and I know you probably answered this question a million times. I am looking at purchasing a 60 scale WB. I am a relatively new flyer, and want to start on the second plane for my hanger. Is there a WB that is an easier fly? Is there a particular company that would make an easier model to complete but still operate well? The three guys I fly with all have P 51s so I would like to Vere away from that if possible. I'm partial to more detailed scale models, however, I am not a master builder by any means.
I have an engine picked out. SAITO FA 100 or 120 ( depending on plane), the controller is the JR Pro 6102 (PCM).
The candidates are: VQ MIG [link]http://www.vqwarbirds.com/products/aircraft/mig3.html[/link]
CMP Hellcat [link]http://www.cmpairplane.com/F6F%20Hellcat.htm[/link]
Hanger 9 Hellcat [link]http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=HAN4075[/link]
Hanger 9 Thunderbolt [link]http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=HAN2975[/link]
CMP Spitfire [link]http://www.cmpairplane.com/Spitfire-120.htm[/link]
I'm just trying to pick everyones brains and any help is GREATLY APPRECIATED!
Hey Gents,
I am new to all this and I know you probably answered this question a million times. I am looking at purchasing a 60 scale WB. I am a relatively new flyer, and want to start on the second plane for my hanger. Is there a WB that is an easier fly? Is there a particular company that would make an easier model to complete but still operate well? The three guys I fly with all have P 51s so I would like to Vere away from that if possible. I'm partial to more detailed scale models, however, I am not a master builder by any means.
I have an engine picked out. SAITO FA 100 or 120 ( depending on plane), the controller is the JR Pro 6102 (PCM).
The candidates are: VQ MIG [link]http://www.vqwarbirds.com/products/aircraft/mig3.html[/link]
CMP Hellcat [link]http://www.cmpairplane.com/F6F%20Hellcat.htm[/link]
Hanger 9 Hellcat [link]http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=HAN4075[/link]
Hanger 9 Thunderbolt [link]http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=HAN2975[/link]
CMP Spitfire [link]http://www.cmpairplane.com/Spitfire-120.htm[/link]
I'm just trying to pick everyones brains and any help is GREATLY APPRECIATED!
06-04-2006, 04:42 PM
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RE: FIRST WARBIRD - What to buy?
Thanks Guys,
Looks like the H9 series is the way to go thus far. I'm gonna take a look at the P-47 and the SAITO FA1.25.
It's hobbyists like yourselves that lend a hand that make the sport.
Is there any other input out there?
Looks like the H9 series is the way to go thus far. I'm gonna take a look at the P-47 and the SAITO FA1.25.
It's hobbyists like yourselves that lend a hand that make the sport.
Is there any other input out there?
06-04-2006, 08:00 PM
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H9 is probably the easyest to fly based on wing loading when properly built , however in my opinion
and its just that my opinion VQ is the best ARF for the money .The p40 has a real RC warbird feel , plus flaps , plus real airfoils in tail vs flat wood .
The VQ are well built , sturdy , and very well layed out .The p40 tank compartment leaves little room for any mistakes , the work is done for you , the flaps are very nice , century jet gear drops in with a few little mods and you can get one of these plane for $199 .
The CMPs require a little more building savey , you need an incident meter to ensure proper wing angles , engines are 120 in the 4 stroke size so your investment is a little more upfront .
The cmps also require some reinforcemnet that the newbe may not catch so just my suggestion stick with the best VQ , second is H9 .
last , my #1 suggestion that you will never hear in all the warbird advice you will get , break in your engine to the utmost acuracy , get a good slow idel so that you know it wont quit . A good reliable engine has made all my warbird flying fun and consistant . As I watched Richard L films , I kept noticeing how reliable his low throttle setting were on his Y&S engines , always consistant !!!!!!!!!!!!
and its just that my opinion VQ is the best ARF for the money .The p40 has a real RC warbird feel , plus flaps , plus real airfoils in tail vs flat wood .The VQ are well built , sturdy , and very well layed out .The p40 tank compartment leaves little room for any mistakes , the work is done for you , the flaps are very nice , century jet gear drops in with a few little mods and you can get one of these plane for $199 .
The CMPs require a little more building savey , you need an incident meter to ensure proper wing angles , engines are 120 in the 4 stroke size so your investment is a little more upfront .
The cmps also require some reinforcemnet that the newbe may not catch so just my suggestion stick with the best VQ , second is H9 .
last , my #1 suggestion that you will never hear in all the warbird advice you will get , break in your engine to the utmost acuracy , get a good slow idel so that you know it wont quit . A good reliable engine has made all my warbird flying fun and consistant . As I watched Richard L films , I kept noticeing how reliable his low throttle setting were on his Y&S engines , always consistant !!!!!!!!!!!!
06-04-2006, 08:04 PM
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I too would recommend a Hangar 9 warbird. They are built light, and are easy to fly. As for scale authenticity, I think they do a good job. In fact, their Corsair has more accurate profile than the Top Flite .60 size version (IF built according to plans).
As for engine choise in the 1.20~ 1.25 range tho, I strongly disagree. By all acoounts and magaizine reviews: the Saito 1.00 provides MORE than enough power for any of their '.60' size warbirds. In addition, there have been reports of firewall failures on the Hangar 9 warbirds: the firewall literally rips itself from the fuselage. In one case, it was reported that such an incident occured with a Saito 1.50 mounted to an AT-6. Sounds insane to me, unless the pilot is more interested in 3D performance than anything resembling scale flight.
I have a Saito .91 on my Corsair, and it provides all the power I need. I can understand those that want a little more, and opt for the 1.00, but anything bigger than that is a waste of money while adding weight, IMO.
As for engine choise in the 1.20~ 1.25 range tho, I strongly disagree. By all acoounts and magaizine reviews: the Saito 1.00 provides MORE than enough power for any of their '.60' size warbirds. In addition, there have been reports of firewall failures on the Hangar 9 warbirds: the firewall literally rips itself from the fuselage. In one case, it was reported that such an incident occured with a Saito 1.50 mounted to an AT-6. Sounds insane to me, unless the pilot is more interested in 3D performance than anything resembling scale flight.
I have a Saito .91 on my Corsair, and it provides all the power I need. I can understand those that want a little more, and opt for the 1.00, but anything bigger than that is a waste of money while adding weight, IMO.
06-04-2006, 08:41 PM
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CJ my comments on the 4 cycle 120 was for the CMPs , not the H9 , I agree , the 120 is to much power for the H9 . However the CMPs usualy suggest the 120 , in reality I dont know why when some of them seem very light for there size but none the less the do suggest the 120 or larger .
I love my H9 Corsair , very light and very scale like with a few mods , flys great on an Os 91 4 stroke
I love my H9 Corsair , very light and very scale like with a few mods , flys great on an Os 91 4 stroke
06-05-2006, 11:28 AM
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RE: FIRST WARBIRD - What to buy?
from what i have heard, corsairs are generally some of the easiest warbirds to fly. my second plane was a 40 corsair with a 60 and a 3 blade and was kind of nerve racking. i have flown a 1/5 mustang and it was a heck of alot more enjoyable, but not really a basis for comparison. if the corsair had a smaller engine or had been bigger it would behave better.
