perttime

Not a Dewoitine either but everybody is in the correct country.

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What fighter aircraft?

NOTE:
There are a number of sub-types here, but they are similar enough and there's enough logic in the designations to keep them together as one aircraft type.

1) It was a development of a previous design that had been rejected
2) WW1 ended at about the same time as the first delivery was made, which reduced interest drastically
3) the manufacturer continued development, leading to improved models and both domestic and foreign military sales in 1920s
4) it used a liquid cooled 8 cylinder engine

5) it was a parasol wing design with four struts on either side
6) The engine has been called the ''Rolls-Royce Merlin of World War I'': a pretty common choice in those days.

7) it was sold to Czechoslovakia, Estonia, Finland, Kingdom of Yugoslavia and Latvia
8) the navy of the country of origin bought an unarmed version for use as advanced trainers. One of these was used for carrier trials
9) a small number were built especially for aerobatic displays
edit: photos of the aerobatic variant show a radial engine

10) I have not found definite production numbers but less than 100 seems reasonable

11) found a photo from the carrier trials



12) this French aircraft company was active between 1917 and 1934
13) one example of this type survives in a museum. and it is not in France

14) Type A had two struts each side, as opposed to four each side on the Type B
15) Type A had shown pleasing performance, but was ultimately rejected due to concerns about rigidity of the wing. Type A (the rejected model) was also too heavy
16) Type B also featured a revised fin and rudder

17) I found a photo of the latest aerobatic model, in storage in Paris. Clearly, it does not count as a surviving warbird. With the radial engine, the nose is totally different from the military sub-types

P-51B

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The Gourdou-Leseurre GL.2 (originally, the Gourdou-Leseurre Type B) was a French fighter which made its maiden flight in 1918. It was a development of the Gourdou-Leseurre Type A which had shown pleasing performance during testing but which had been ultimately rejected by the Aéronautique Militaire due to concerns about the rigidity of the wing. The Type B featured not only a new wing design, now braced by four struts on either side in place of the two per side on the Type A, but also a revised fin and rudder for improved directional stability, and strengthened undercarriage. Twenty examples were delivered in November 1918, designated GL.2C.1 in service, but the end of the war meant a loss of official interest.




Gourdou-Leseurre GL-22 (8F.12) in Aviation Museum of Central Finland;

perttime

You got it!

Wikipedia has a bit more on the sub-types and other details. Much of the other information on WWW is in French.

I have a different photo and it looks like they have been rearranging the aircraft. That is the (not so pretty) nose of a Martinsyde Buzzard next to the Gourdou-Leseurre.

One more pic: Gourdou-Leseurre GL.22 in the old days.

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Your turn, P-51B.

P-51B

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Thanks Pertime. If it wasn't for your clue #12 I never would have found it!


Keeping with the current WWI theme;


1. Originally conceived as a fighter, it was found inadequate for that role.
2. Production of the aircraft continued well after the war, with the final examples delivered in 1928.

DeferredDefect

I had no idea what the aircraft was, but I'm going to the Jami Airshow in Finland next month and I'll get pictures of the Gl.22 while I'm there...from what it sounds like they have a great museum!

perttime

The museum is over 200 km from Jämi: [link=http://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=J%C3%A4mintie+630,+J%C3%84MIJ%C3%84RVI&daddr=Tikkakoskentie+125,+TIKKAKOSKI&hl=fi&ie=UTF8&sll=61.784163,22.732687&sspn=0.021061,0.053902&geocode=FZmprgMd86laASmLs67OHN6IRjGHsMDkhoB5lQ%3BF Y_ytwMdp9eHASnTuNfPWaCFRjGpONU4mA4TCA&mra=ls&z=8]Shortest way[/link] or [link=http://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=J%C3%A4mintie+630,+J%C3%84MIJ%C3%84RVI&daddr=61.6310947,24.1808959+to:Tikkakoskentie+125, +TIKKAKOSKI&hl=fi&ie=UTF8&sll=61.784163,22.732687&sspn=0.021061,0.053902&geocode=FZmprgMd86laASmLs67OHN6IRjGHsMDkhoB5lQ%3BF XZqrAMdn_hwASlJr8cdhhePRjHABnUgUbUAEw%3BFY_ytwMdp9 eHASnTuNfPWaCFRjGpONU4mA4TCA&mra=ls&z=8&via=1]via Tampere[/link]

They are bringing a couple of exhibits to the show but not the GL.22. It is not a huge museum but they have a few unique things there. Well worth a visit if you can.

Ernie P.

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The Curtiss Jenny? Thanks; Ernie P.

P-51B

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Not the Jenny.

Keeping with the current WWI theme;


1. Originally conceived as a fighter, it was found inadequate for that role.
2. Production of the aircraft continued well after the war, with the final examples delivered in 1928.
3. Ten variants were produced.
4. Its impressive speed, range and operational ceiling, with its top speed making it one of the fastest (if not the fastest) of all Allied combat aircraft in World War I, gave it the right properties to be an excellent reconnaissance aircraft and even light bomber.

Ernie P.

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Originally conceived as a two seater fighter? As in the DH-4? Everything fits except the two seat part. The only thing with two seats that really deserved the "fighter" moniker was the Bristol Fighter, IMHO. Thanks; Ernie P.

Ernie P.

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Wait a sec. I just remembered something. The Italians developed... yeah, here it is... and there was a two seater version. The Ansaldo SVA. There was a leaflet drop over Vienna. Thanks; Ernie P.


The Ansaldo SVA (named for Savoia-Verduzio-Ansaldo) was a family of Italian reconnaissance biplane aircraft of World War I and the decade after. Originally conceived as a fighter, the SVA was found inadequate for that role. Nevertheless, its impressive speed, range and operational ceiling, with its top speed making it one of the fastest (if not the fastest) of all Allied combat aircraft in World War I, gave it the right properties to be an excellent reconnaissance aircraft and even light bomber. Production of the aircraft continued well after the war, with the final examples delivered in 1928. Two minor variants were produced, one with reconnaissance cameras, the other without cameras but extra fuel tanks.

The SVA was a conventionally-laid out unequal-span biplane, featuring Warren Truss-style struts, and therefore having no transverse (spanwise) bracing wires. The plywood-skinned fuselage had the typical Ansaldo triangular rear cross-section behind the cockpit, transitioning to a rectangular cross section going forwards through the rear cockpit area, with a full rectangular cross section forward of the cockpit.

The famous Flight over Vienna propaganda flight, inspired by Gabriele d'Annunzio, was carried out on August 9, 1918, by the 87th Squadriglia La Serenissima from San Pelagio, consisting of an eleven plane flight of various models of Ansaldo SVA-series biplanes. At least two of the aircraft were two seater SVA 9 or 10s to accommodate d'Annunzio himself for the flight he inspired, with the remainder being SVA 5 single-seaters.

P-51B

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You nailed it Ernie!

The flight over Vienna was to be the next clue which definately would have given it away.


You are up!!!

Ernie P.

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Thank you, Sir. I've always wondered why the SVA was a failure as a fighter. It was very fast, with a good rate of climb. I've never heard or seen any discussion of its maneuverability or roll rate, but speed and climbing ability alone make a pretty good fighter. Why wasn't it successful as a fighter? Thanks; Ernie P.

Ernie P.

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Thank you, Sir. This one may prove to be an easy question, or a hard one; I really don't know. It will depend on your ability to look at the big picture, to lead you to the smaller view. Thanks; Ernie P.

Produced in a dizzying array of models, to perform almost literally any function, this aircraft almost defined the term “multi-role aircraft”. And, one of those models featured an almost unique feature never seen before. To answer this question, you must provide (1) The aircraft name AND model; and (2) The unique feature I will describe. Some clues will point to the aircraft name and model, and some to the unique feature of this aircraft and model.

Question: What multi-role aircraft do I describe; and what unique innovation did it feature?

Clues:

(1) This aircraft was developed from an earlier aircraft. To the very last model, the influence of the earliest design was apparent.

(2) This aircraft performed in many different arenas; from blazing hot to freezing cold.

a65l

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C-130, and one of the first airplanes to use turboprop engines.

Ernie P.

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Good guess, but not the one I'm looking for. But maybe this will help. Thanks; Ernie P.


Produced in a dizzying array of models, to perform almost literally any function, this aircraft almost defined the term “multi-role aircraft”. And, one of those models featured an almost unique feature never seen before. To answer this question, you must provide (1) The aircraft name AND model; and (2) The unique feature I will describe. Some clues will point to the aircraft name and model, and some to the unique feature of this aircraft and model.

Question: What multi-role aircraft do I describe; and what unique innovation did it feature?

Clues:

(1) This aircraft was developed from an earlier aircraft. To the very last model, the influence of the earliest design was apparent.

(2) This aircraft performed in many different arenas; from blazing hot to freezing cold.

(3) It performed as a day fighter and a night fighter; a day bomber and a night bomber.

zippome

Junkers Ju88, with its annular radiators? Jerry used that aircraft for just about everything they could think of.....
It was given the nickname "Maid of all work". I have no idea what the original german translation of that is.

Mein Duff

das heisst = "Ein Madchen fur alles"

The Raven

P-61 Black Widow was used for bombing from memory. Definitely a day/night fighter.

Ernie P.

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No correct answers thus far; although there were some good, well thought out, responses. We do keep proving there is often more than one correct answer to a question. Thanks; Ernie P.


Produced in a dizzying array of models, to perform almost literally any function, this aircraft almost defined the term “multi-role aircraft”. And, one of those models featured an almost unique feature never seen before. To answer this question, you must provide (1) The aircraft name AND model; and (2) The unique feature I will describe. Some clues will point to the aircraft name and model, and some to the unique feature of this aircraft and model.

Question: What multi-role aircraft do I describe; and what unique innovation did it feature?

Clues:

(1) This aircraft was developed from an earlier aircraft. To the very last model, the influence of the earliest design was apparent.

(2) This aircraft performed in many different arenas; from blazing hot to freezing cold.

(3) It performed as a day fighter and a night fighter; a day bomber and a night bomber.

(4) It was used for both close in ground attack and high level bombing.

(5) It was used as a dive bomber and level bomber.

The Raven

DeHavilland Mosquito and its plywood construction

Ernie P.

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Ohhhh.... Great, but incorrect, answer Raven. No, it wasn't the Mosquito; although it fits almost all of the clues so far. Let's change that. Thanks; Ernie P.


Produced in a dizzying array of models, to perform almost literally any function, this aircraft almost defined the term “multi-role aircraft”. And, one of those models featured an almost unique feature never seen before. To answer this question, you must provide (1) The aircraft name AND model; and (2) The unique feature I will describe. Some clues will point to the aircraft name and model, and some to the unique feature of this aircraft and model.

Question: What multi-role aircraft do I describe; and what unique innovation did it feature?

Clues:

(1) This aircraft was developed from an earlier aircraft. To the very last model, the influence of the earliest design was apparent.

(2) This aircraft performed in many different arenas; from blazing hot to freezing cold.

(3) It performed as a day fighter and a night fighter; a day bomber and a night bomber.

(4) It was used for both close in ground attack and high level bombing.

(5) It was used as a dive bomber and level bomber.

(6) The unique feature aided this aircraft when it was used in its dive bomber role.

The Raven

Petlyakov Pe-2 with dive brakes?

In case you haven't noticed I'm starting to guess more.

DeferredDefect

ARUP

-109?

Mein Duff

F4U ?