Ernie P.

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Thanks, Top_Gunn. Excellent question, BTW. I'll post a question this evening. Thanks; Ernie P.

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Here you go. This is an easy one, so enjoy! Thanks; Ernie P.


Question: What warbird do I describe?

Clues:

(1) This aircraft was intended to be a training aircraft for advanced students.

(2) Modified versions set a number of world records.

Ernie P.

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Evening clue. Thanks; Ernie P.


Question: What warbird do I describe?

Clues:

(1) This aircraft was intended to be a training aircraft for advanced students.

(2) Modified versions set a number of world records.

(3) This aircraft was itself based on an earlier aircraft. It was equipped with a more powerful engine, and was intended to be more aerobatic.

Ernie P.

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Morning clue. Thanks; Ernie P.


Question: What warbird do I describe?

Clues:

(1) This aircraft was intended to be a training aircraft for advanced students.

(2) Modified versions set a number of world records.

(3) This aircraft was itself based on an earlier aircraft. It was equipped with a more powerful engine, and was intended to be more aerobatic.

(4) In competitions of the time, it won prestigious aerobatic trophies.

perttime

Bόcker Bό 133 Jungmeister
... except I'm not aware of it breaking any world records.

Ernie P.

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Good to hear from you, perttime. No, not the Bό 133 Jungmeister; but please try again. Thanks; Ernie P.


Question: What warbird do I describe?

Clues:

(1) This aircraft was intended to be a training aircraft for advanced students.

(2) Modified versions set a number of world records.

(3) This aircraft was itself based on an earlier aircraft. It was equipped with a more powerful engine, and was intended to be more aerobatic.

(4) In competitions of the time, it won prestigious aerobatic trophies.

(5) Among the records set by the modified version, was an absolute record for altitude.

Ernie P.

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Morning clue. Thanks; Ernie P.


Question: What warbird do I describe?

Clues:

(1) This aircraft was intended to be a training aircraft for advanced students.

(2) Modified versions set a number of world records.

(3) This aircraft was itself based on an earlier aircraft. It was equipped with a more powerful engine, and was intended to be more aerobatic.

(4) In competitions of the time, it won prestigious aerobatic trophies.

(5) Among the records set by the modified version, was an absolute record for altitude.

(6) Some versions were armed, some not. Some of the armed versions served in the armed forces of other countries;

Ernie P.

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Evening clue. Thanks; Ernie P.


Question: What warbird do I describe?

Clues:

(1) This aircraft was intended to be a training aircraft for advanced students.

(2) Modified versions set a number of world records.

(3) This aircraft was itself based on an earlier aircraft. It was equipped with a more powerful engine, and was intended to be more aerobatic.

(4) In competitions of the time, it won prestigious aerobatic trophies.

(5) Among the records set by the modified version, was an absolute record for altitude.

(6) Some versions were armed, some not. Some of the armed versions served in the armed forces of other countries;

(7) It’s easy to find this aircraft in the big book of world records, since some of the records set still stand; or at least stood as of a year ago.

Ernie P.

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Please honor Veteran's Day and all veterans. Morning clue. Thanks; Ernie P.


Question: What warbird do I describe?

Clues:

(1) This aircraft was intended to be a training aircraft for advanced students.

(2) Modified versions set a number of world records.

(3) This aircraft was itself based on an earlier aircraft. It was equipped with a more powerful engine, and was intended to be more aerobatic.

(4) In competitions of the time, it won prestigious aerobatic trophies.

(5) Among the records set by the modified version, was an absolute record for altitude.

(6) Some versions were armed, some not. Some of the armed versions served in the armed forces of other countries;

(7) It’s easy to find this aircraft in the big book of world records, since some of the records set still stand; or at least stood as of a year ago.

(8) Some aircraft were produced by a subsidiary, built in a foreign country.

JohnnyS

Caproni Ca.113?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caproni_Ca.113

Ernie P.

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Indeed, JohnnyS; I mean the Caproni Ca. 113 and its derivative aircraft. Good going! It's hard to believe that records set in 1938 and 1939 still stand today. And now, you get to answer the next question. Thanks; Ernie P.


Question: What warbird do I describe?

Clues:

(1) This aircraft was intended to be a training aircraft for advanced students.

(2) Modified versions set a number of world records.

(3) This aircraft was itself based on an earlier aircraft. It was equipped with a more powerful engine, and was intended to be more aerobatic.

(4) In competitions of the time, it won prestigious aerobatic trophies.

(5) Among the records set by the modified version, was an absolute record for altitude.

(6) Some versions were armed, some not. Some of the armed versions served in the armed forces of other countries;

(7) It’s easy to find this aircraft in the big book of world records, since some of the records set still stand; or at least stood as of a year ago.

(8) Some aircraft were produced by a subsidiary, built in a foreign country.

(9) Some of the records set were impressive at the time, but might be viewed as rather worthless today; perhaps even silly.

(10) The altitude records were set by both men and women.

(11) The records in (9) were performed in the United States; and were for inverted flight.

Answer: The Caproni Ca.113 and its follow-on derivative, the Caproni Ca.161


The Caproni Ca.113 was an advanced training biplane produced in Italy and Bulgaria in the early 1930s. Designed as a follow-on to the Ca.100, it was a more powerful and robust aircraft capable of aerobatics. It was a conventional design with two cockpits in tandem, single-bay staggered wings of equal span, and mainwheels covered by large spats.

The Ca.113's capabilities were demonstrated by Mario De Bernardi's win of the aerobatic trophy at the 1931 Cleveland Air Races and its use in setting a number of aerial records, most importantly a world altitude record of 14,433 m (47,352 ft) set by Renato Donati on 11 April 1934. Other records included a women's world altitude record of 12,010 m (39,400 ft) set by Contessa Carina Negrone in 1935 and world endurance records for inverted flight. These latter records were set by Tito Falconi at the US 1933 National Air Races, who flew inverted from Los Angeles to San Diego and after the race meet, made an inverted flight from St. Louis to Chicago.

The Ca.113 was also produced in quantity by the subsidiary that Caproni established in Kazanlak, Bulgaria. Here, it was known as the Chuchuliga ("Skylark") and was produced in a number of versions designated KB-2, KB-3, KB-4 and KB-5 in 1938-1939, some of which were armed. 107 of these aircraft were produced, most going to the Bulgarian Royal Air Force, where they saw service until the country was overrun by the Soviet Union.

General characteristics
Crew: 2, pilot and instructor
Length: 7.30 m (23 ft 11 in)
Wingspan: 10.50 m (34 ft 5 in)
Height: 2.70 m (8 ft 11 in)
Wing area: 27.0 m2 (290 ft2)
Empty weight: 850 kg (1,874 lb)
Gross weight: 1,100 kg (2,205 lb)
Powerplant: 1 Χ Piaggio Stella VII C.35, 276 kW (370 hp)
Performance
Maximum speed: 250 km/h (155 mph)
Range: 300 km (186 miles)
Service ceiling: 7,300 m (23,950 ft)
Rate of climb: 8.8 m/s (1,730 ft/min)


The Caproni Ca.161 was an aircraft built in Italy in 1936 in an attempt to set a new world altitude record. It was a conventional biplane with two-bay, staggered wings of equal span based on Caproni's Ca.113 design. The pressure-suited pilot was accommodated in an open cockpit.

On 8 May 1937, Lieutenant Colonel Mario Pezzi broke the world altitude record with a flight to 15,655 m (51,362 ft). The following year, Pezzi broke the record again in the more powerful Ca.161bis, making a flight to 17,083 m (56,047 ft) on 22 October 1938.

As of 2012, this record still stands for piston-powered aircraft.
A final altitude record was set on 25 September 1939 in the float-equipped Ca.161Idro, piloted by Nicola di Mauro to 13,542 m (44,429 ft). As of 2012, this record also still stands.

Ernie P.

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Indeed, JohnnyS; I mean the Caproni Ca. 113 and its derivative aircraft. Good going! It's hard to believe that records set in 1938 and 1939 still stand today. And now, you get to answer the next question. Thanks; Ernie P.


Question: What warbird do I describe?

Clues:

(1) This aircraft was intended to be a training aircraft for advanced students.

(2) Modified versions set a number of world records.

(3) This aircraft was itself based on an earlier aircraft. It was equipped with a more powerful engine, and was intended to be more aerobatic.

(4) In competitions of the time, it won prestigious aerobatic trophies.

(5) Among the records set by the modified version, was an absolute record for altitude.

(6) Some versions were armed, some not. Some of the armed versions served in the armed forces of other countries;

(7) It’s easy to find this aircraft in the big book of world records, since some of the records set still stand; or at least stood as of a year ago.

(8) Some aircraft were produced by a subsidiary, built in a foreign country.

(9) Some of the records set were impressive at the time, but might be viewed as rather worthless today; perhaps even silly.

(10) The altitude records were set by both men and women.

(11) The records in (9) were performed in the United States; and were for inverted flight.

Answer: The Caproni Ca.113 and its follow-on derivative, the Caproni Ca.161


The Caproni Ca.113 was an advanced training biplane produced in Italy and Bulgaria in the early 1930s. Designed as a follow-on to the Ca.100, it was a more powerful and robust aircraft capable of aerobatics. It was a conventional design with two cockpits in tandem, single-bay staggered wings of equal span, and mainwheels covered by large spats.

The Ca.113's capabilities were demonstrated by Mario De Bernardi's win of the aerobatic trophy at the 1931 Cleveland Air Races and its use in setting a number of aerial records, most importantly a world altitude record of 14,433 m (47,352 ft) set by Renato Donati on 11 April 1934. Other records included a women's world altitude record of 12,010 m (39,400 ft) set by Contessa Carina Negrone in 1935 and world endurance records for inverted flight. These latter records were set by Tito Falconi at the US 1933 National Air Races, who flew inverted from Los Angeles to San Diego and after the race meet, made an inverted flight from St. Louis to Chicago.

The Ca.113 was also produced in quantity by the subsidiary that Caproni established in Kazanlak, Bulgaria. Here, it was known as the Chuchuliga ("Skylark") and was produced in a number of versions designated KB-2, KB-3, KB-4 and KB-5 in 1938-1939, some of which were armed. 107 of these aircraft were produced, most going to the Bulgarian Royal Air Force, where they saw service until the country was overrun by the Soviet Union.

General characteristics
Crew: 2, pilot and instructor
Length: 7.30 m (23 ft 11 in)
Wingspan: 10.50 m (34 ft 5 in)
Height: 2.70 m (8 ft 11 in)
Wing area: 27.0 m2 (290 ft2)
Empty weight: 850 kg (1,874 lb)
Gross weight: 1,100 kg (2,205 lb)
Powerplant: 1 Χ Piaggio Stella VII C.35, 276 kW (370 hp)
Performance
Maximum speed: 250 km/h (155 mph)
Range: 300 km (186 miles)
Service ceiling: 7,300 m (23,950 ft)
Rate of climb: 8.8 m/s (1,730 ft/min)


The Caproni Ca.161 was an aircraft built in Italy in 1936 in an attempt to set a new world altitude record. It was a conventional biplane with two-bay, staggered wings of equal span based on Caproni's Ca.113 design. The pressure-suited pilot was accommodated in an open cockpit.

On 8 May 1937, Lieutenant Colonel Mario Pezzi broke the world altitude record with a flight to 15,655 m (51,362 ft). The following year, Pezzi broke the record again in the more powerful Ca.161bis, making a flight to 17,083 m (56,047 ft) on 22 October 1938.

As of 2012, this record still stands for piston-powered aircraft.
A final altitude record was set on 25 September 1939 in the float-equipped Ca.161Idro, piloted by Nicola di Mauro to 13,542 m (44,429 ft). As of 2012, this record also still stands.

JohnnyS

RIght, Ernie P: Will you be presenting the next question?

Ernie P.

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No, Sir; you have earned the privelege of asking the next question. Unless, of course, you don't have a question ready for us; or can't come up with one within 24 hours. You may ask some one to take the lead on your behalf, or declare the floor open to anyone wishing to ask a question. In that case, it's first come, first served. Your choice. But I'm sure anyone who can answer a question can also come up with one. Thanks; Ernie P.

JohnnyS

Ernie,

Sorry: I misunderstood your earlier post. Here's a new one:

1. First flight 1965.
2. Still in production.
3. As seen on Top Gear.

Ernie P.

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Okay, JohnnyS; I see my mistake, now. I meant to say "you get to ask the next question"; not "you get to answer the next question". Sorry for the confusion. Thanks; Ernie P.

JohnnyS

A new clue.

1. First flight 1965.
2. Still in production.
3. As seen on Top Gear.
4. 2 engines, 3 doors. .

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I know this is going to seem like a silly answer, but... The first thing that comes to mind is the Twin Otter. And, it seems to fit all the clues, so far. Thanks; Ernie P.


The de Havilland Canada DHC-6 Twin Otter is a Canadian 19-passenger STOL (Short Takeoff and Landing) utility aircraft developed by de Havilland Canada and currently produced by Viking Air. The aircraft's fixed tricycle undercarriage, STOL abilities and high rate of climb have made it a successful cargo, regional passenger airliner and MEDEVAC aircraft. In addition, the Twin Otter has been popular with commercial skydiving operations, and is used by the United States Army Parachute Team and the United States Air Force's 98th Flying Training Squadron.

JohnnyS

Close, but not quite. The Twin Otter was not shown on Top Gear. Good guess, though!

One more clue:

1. First flight 1965.
2. Still in production.
3. As seen on Top Gear.
4. 2 engines, 3 doors.
5. Originally produced with piston engines, there have been many powerplant variations for testing and production use, including gas turbines, ducted fans and even a third engine.

lean-run

Britten-Norman Islander (Tri-lander)?

JohnnyS

Yes, that's it! You're up.

lean-run

OK, thanks, sorta new to this. The designer of this aircraft was flying one of these near the end of ww2. He was being "checked out" by a couple of Mustangs and ( roughly quoted) "gassed it up and simply flew away from them."

Ernie P.

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Welcome to the thread, buddy. Don't worry about being new to the process, lean-run; we all had to learn and we all make mistakes. You might number your clues, just to make it easier for us. As long as you pose one new clue every 24 hours, you'll be fine. We're pretty forgiving. But... Something you should worry about is one of these experts bouncing your very first clue. They won't let this one run very long, I have a hunch. If it goes past two more clues, I'll jump on it. Good subject matter, though. Thanks; Ernie P.

lean-run

Thanks for guidance Ernie P. Will be asleep when my 24 hrs up so will post tonite.
1./ Designer evades Mustangs by "gassing it up and flying away from them."
2./ Designed as a high-altitude fighter, it also did important work closer to the ground.
Hope this is not going over old ground. Bye from Oz.

perttime

Don't worry too much about "old ground". (I suspect it might be...)