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Afternoon clue. Thanks; Ernie P.

Question: What warbird do I describe?

Clues:
1.This aircraft was originally an attempt to redesign and correct the design flaws in an earlier, failed aircraft.
2.It essentially married together the design features of the failed aircraft, with the design features of a remarkably successful aircraft.
3.It also, in turn, influenced the design of a very famous aircraft, although that program was never completed.
4.One of the interesting things is that the aircraft was designed in one country, but built in another.
5.And eventually completed and flown by the second country.
6.It was to have been a high speed, high altitude bomber.
7.But the plane wasn’t completed in time to participate in the war; and was abandoned by the designer country.
8.But there is no question that, had it been completed in time, it would have been almost invulnerable to interception.
9.It was completed and used by the builder country for some years.
10.It was used for high altitude research initially.
11.Then it was used for research into air launched experimental aircraft.
12.This project actually began as a proposal to build a high altitude version of the failed bomber project which served as the “parent” of what later became this aircraft.
13.The idea was to create a high altitude version of a twin engined bomber by adding pressurized crew compartments, reducing the number of crew members and defensive armament and extending and redesigning the wings.
14.This eventually led to a complete redesign, which added two engines.
15.The result was an aircraft which was considerably faster; and which could fly at more than twice the altitude of the parent aircraft.
16.The combination of altitude and speed was such that it was felt the opposing fighter aircraft would be unable to intercept the aircraft.
17.At the same time, a very long range version of the new design was being prepared.
18.Since the offspring of our subject aircraft was also coming into being at the time, this resulted in three different, but very closely related, projects being developed simultaneously.
19.Thus, the decision was made to have this, our subject aircraft, built in a different country; one with considerable experience building aircraft and with a lot of unused capacity in terms of facilities and trained technical staff.
20.The offspring of our subject aircraft was, ironically, itself a twin engined aircraft.
21.Thus the cycle of two engines, four engines, two engines; in the succession of what were three different aircraft designs; versions of each which were intended to fulfill a variety of roles ranging from bomber to long range and high altitude bombers.
22.And, to complete the irony, the offspring aircraft, originally designed as a bomber, was redesigned as a high speed fighter.
23.A night fighter.
24.Our subject aircraft was to have been a high speed, high altitude bomber, but was only flown as an experimental, high altitude research aircraft; which was later used to launch test experimental high speed aircraft.
25.Our subject aircraft was first envisioned in 1938.
26.And first flew in 1945.
27.Had any of the three parallel development aircraft become operationally ready a bit earlier; they would be household names today.
28.The second aircraft was first flown in 1947.
29.And those two were the only ones ever built.
30.Empty, they were to have weighed over 45,000 pounds.
31.Fully loaded and armed, they were to have weighed over 80,000 pounds.
32.Maximum speed was to have been over 350 MPH.
33.At over 35,000 feet.
34.This aircraft was designed by a major designer and manufacturer of aircraft; one easily recognized.
35.The eventual completion and flight use was also done by an easily recognizable aircraft manufacturing entity.
36.And, it was actually being built, prior to its abandonment by the designers, by yet another well-known and easily recognizable aircraft manufacturing entity.

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A couple of evening clues to help you along. And a strong hint. Read (19) again. Big, big hint. Thanks; Ernie P.

Question: What warbird do I describe?

Clues:
1.This aircraft was originally an attempt to redesign and correct the design flaws in an earlier, failed aircraft.
2.It essentially married together the design features of the failed aircraft, with the design features of a remarkably successful aircraft.
3.It also, in turn, influenced the design of a very famous aircraft, although that program was never completed.
4.One of the interesting things is that the aircraft was designed in one country, but built in another.
5.And eventually completed and flown by the second country.
6.It was to have been a high speed, high altitude bomber.
7.But the plane wasn’t completed in time to participate in the war; and was abandoned by the designer country.
8.But there is no question that, had it been completed in time, it would have been almost invulnerable to interception.
9.It was completed and used by the builder country for some years.
10.It was used for high altitude research initially.
11.Then it was used for research into air launched experimental aircraft.
12.This project actually began as a proposal to build a high altitude version of the failed bomber project which served as the “parent” of what later became this aircraft.
13.The idea was to create a high altitude version of a twin engined bomber by adding pressurized crew compartments, reducing the number of crew members and defensive armament and extending and redesigning the wings.
14.This eventually led to a complete redesign, which added two engines.
15.The result was an aircraft which was considerably faster; and which could fly at more than twice the altitude of the parent aircraft.
16.The combination of altitude and speed was such that it was felt the opposing fighter aircraft would be unable to intercept the aircraft.
17.At the same time, a very long range version of the new design was being prepared.
18.Since the offspring of our subject aircraft was also coming into being at the time, this resulted in three different, but very closely related, projects being developed simultaneously.
19.Thus, the decision was made to have this, our subject aircraft, built in a different country; one with considerable experience building aircraft and with a lot of unused capacity in terms of facilities and trained technical staff.
20.The offspring of our subject aircraft was, ironically, itself a twin engined aircraft.
21.Thus the cycle of two engines, four engines, two engines; in the succession of what were three different aircraft designs; versions of each which were intended to fulfill a variety of roles ranging from bomber to long range and high altitude bombers.
22.And, to complete the irony, the offspring aircraft, originally designed as a bomber, was redesigned as a high speed fighter.
23.A night fighter.
24.Our subject aircraft was to have been a high speed, high altitude bomber, but was only flown as an experimental, high altitude research aircraft; which was later used to launch test experimental high speed aircraft.
25.Our subject aircraft was first envisioned in 1938.
26.And first flew in 1945.
27.Had any of the three parallel development aircraft become operationally ready a bit earlier; they would be household names today.
28.The second aircraft was first flown in 1947.
29.And those two were the only ones ever built.
30.Empty, they were to have weighed over 45,000 pounds.
31.Fully loaded and armed, they were to have weighed over 80,000 pounds.
32.Maximum speed was to have been over 350 MPH.
33.At over 35,000 feet.
34.This aircraft was designed by a major designer and manufacturer of aircraft; one easily recognized.
35.The eventual completion and flight use was also done by an easily recognizable aircraft manufacturing entity.
36.And, it was actually being built, prior to its abandonment by the designers, by yet another well-known and easily recognizable aircraft manufacturing entity.
37.The designer company was also working on a small handful of prototypes at its headquarters plant in the owning country; but those were never completed.
38.The company which ultimately completed the two known prototypes actually utilized the facilities of the company in (36).

Hydro Junkie

Okay, has anyone guessed the FW-191? How about the JU-287? It was furthered, but not used by the Soviet Union as the EF-131 and EF-140

Ernie P.

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Neither of those, Hydro Junkie; but here's a couple of clues to reward your participation. These will be the last two clues, and then we're going to start alternating. I'll post a clue and then I'll answer a question from you guys. The questions from you must be very specific, not shotgun questions. For example; "What country built the plane?" will not be an allowable question. "Did Italy build the plane?" will be an allowable question. "What company designed the plane?" won't be allowed; but "Did Hawker Aviation build the plane?" will. Thanks; Ernie P.

Question: What warbird do I describe?

Clues:
1.This aircraft was originally an attempt to redesign and correct the design flaws in an earlier, failed aircraft.
2.It essentially married together the design features of the failed aircraft, with the design features of a remarkably successful aircraft.
3.It also, in turn, influenced the design of a very famous aircraft, although that program was never completed.
4.One of the interesting things is that the aircraft was designed in one country, but built in another.
5.And eventually completed and flown by the second country.
6.It was to have been a high speed, high altitude bomber.
7.But the plane wasn’t completed in time to participate in the war; and was abandoned by the designer country.
8.But there is no question that, had it been completed in time, it would have been almost invulnerable to interception.
9.It was completed and used by the builder country for some years.
10.It was used for high altitude research initially.
11.Then it was used for research into air launched experimental aircraft.
12.This project actually began as a proposal to build a high altitude version of the failed bomber project which served as the “parent” of what later became this aircraft.
13.The idea was to create a high altitude version of a twin engined bomber by adding pressurized crew compartments, reducing the number of crew members and defensive armament and extending and redesigning the wings.
14.This eventually led to a complete redesign, which added two engines.
15.The result was an aircraft which was considerably faster; and which could fly at more than twice the altitude of the parent aircraft.
16.The combination of altitude and speed was such that it was felt the opposing fighter aircraft would be unable to intercept the aircraft.
17.At the same time, a very long range version of the new design was being prepared.
18.Since the offspring of our subject aircraft was also coming into being at the time, this resulted in three different, but very closely related, projects being developed simultaneously.
19.Thus, the decision was made to have this, our subject aircraft, built in a different country; one with considerable experience building aircraft and with a lot of unused capacity in terms of facilities and trained technical staff.
20.The offspring of our subject aircraft was, ironically, itself a twin engined aircraft.
21.Thus the cycle of two engines, four engines, two engines; in the succession of what were three different aircraft designs; versions of each which were intended to fulfill a variety of roles ranging from bomber to long range and high altitude bombers.
22.And, to complete the irony, the offspring aircraft, originally designed as a bomber, was redesigned as a high speed fighter.
23.A night fighter.
24.Our subject aircraft was to have been a high speed, high altitude bomber, but was only flown as an experimental, high altitude research aircraft; which was later used to launch test experimental high speed aircraft.
25.Our subject aircraft was first envisioned in 1938.
26.And first flew in 1945.
27.Had any of the three parallel development aircraft become operationally ready a bit earlier; they would be household names today.
28.The second aircraft was first flown in 1947.
29.And those two were the only ones ever built.
30.Empty, they were to have weighed over 45,000 pounds.
31.Fully loaded and armed, they were to have weighed over 80,000 pounds.
32.Maximum speed was to have been over 350 MPH.
33.At over 35,000 feet.
34.This aircraft was designed by a major designer and manufacturer of aircraft; one easily recognized.
35.The eventual completion and flight use was also done by an easily recognizable aircraft manufacturing entity.
36.And, it was actually being built, prior to its abandonment by the designers, by yet another well-known and easily recognizable aircraft manufacturing entity.
37.The designer company was also working on a small handful of prototypes at its headquarters plant in the owning country; but those were never completed.
38.The company which ultimately completed the two known prototypes actually utilized the facilities of the company in (36).
39.That company, the one which was originally building the two prototypes, was by then largely defunct; although they managed to survive, to some degree, until the mid-1950’s.
40.That company, over its lifetime, had designed and/or built more than 200 different types of aircraft.

Ernie P.

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As it is now morning, I am posting my morning clue; the 41st in this series. And, after posting this clue, the floor is now open to the first person to ask me a question about this warbird. The first person to ask an allowable question will get an answer. Thanks; Ernie P.

Question: What warbird do I describe?

Clues:
1.This aircraft was originally an attempt to redesign and correct the design flaws in an earlier, failed aircraft.
2.It essentially married together the design features of the failed aircraft, with the design features of a remarkably successful aircraft.
3.It also, in turn, influenced the design of a very famous aircraft, although that program was never completed.
4.One of the interesting things is that the aircraft was designed in one country, but built in another.
5.And eventually completed and flown by the second country.
6.It was to have been a high speed, high altitude bomber.
7.But the plane wasn’t completed in time to participate in the war; and was abandoned by the designer country.
8.But there is no question that, had it been completed in time, it would have been almost invulnerable to interception.
9.It was completed and used by the builder country for some years.
10.It was used for high altitude research initially.
11.Then it was used for research into air launched experimental aircraft.
12.This project actually began as a proposal to build a high altitude version of the failed bomber project which served as the “parent” of what later became this aircraft.
13.The idea was to create a high altitude version of a twin engined bomber by adding pressurized crew compartments, reducing the number of crew members and defensive armament and extending and redesigning the wings.
14.This eventually led to a complete redesign, which added two engines.
15.The result was an aircraft which was considerably faster; and which could fly at more than twice the altitude of the parent aircraft.
16.The combination of altitude and speed was such that it was felt the opposing fighter aircraft would be unable to intercept the aircraft.
17.At the same time, a very long range version of the new design was being prepared.
18.Since the offspring of our subject aircraft was also coming into being at the time, this resulted in three different, but very closely related, projects being developed simultaneously.
19.Thus, the decision was made to have this, our subject aircraft, built in a different country; one with considerable experience building aircraft and with a lot of unused capacity in terms of facilities and trained technical staff.
20.The offspring of our subject aircraft was, ironically, itself a twin engined aircraft.
21.Thus the cycle of two engines, four engines, two engines; in the succession of what were three different aircraft designs; versions of each which were intended to fulfill a variety of roles ranging from bomber to long range and high altitude bombers.
22.And, to complete the irony, the offspring aircraft, originally designed as a bomber, was redesigned as a high speed fighter.
23.A night fighter.
24.Our subject aircraft was to have been a high speed, high altitude bomber, but was only flown as an experimental, high altitude research aircraft; which was later used to launch test experimental high speed aircraft.
25.Our subject aircraft was first envisioned in 1938.
26.And first flew in 1945.
27.Had any of the three parallel development aircraft become operationally ready a bit earlier; they would be household names today.
28.The second aircraft was first flown in 1947.
29.And those two were the only ones ever built.
30.Empty, they were to have weighed over 45,000 pounds.
31.Fully loaded and armed, they were to have weighed over 80,000 pounds.
32.Maximum speed was to have been over 350 MPH.
33.At over 35,000 feet.
34.This aircraft was designed by a major designer and manufacturer of aircraft; one easily recognized.
35.The eventual completion and flight use was also done by an easily recognizable aircraft manufacturing entity.
36.And, it was actually being built, prior to its abandonment by the designers, by yet another well-known and easily recognizable aircraft manufacturing entity.
37.The designer company was also working on a small handful of prototypes at its headquarters plant in the owning country; but those were never completed.
38.The company which ultimately completed the two known prototypes actually utilized the facilities of the company in (36).
39.That company, the one which was originally building the two prototypes, was by then largely defunct; although they managed to survive, to some degree, until the mid-1950’s.
40.That company, over its lifetime, had designed and/or built more than 200 different types of aircraft.
41.And its name was that of a famous aviation pioneer.

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Top_Gunn

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Was the design German?

Ernie P.

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Top_Gunn; yes the design was German. And, since you have now asked a question, I will post another clue. I don't plan on using this method very often, but it seemed the best way to help you guys get on track a bit faster without giving it away. Thanks; Ernie P.


Question: What warbird do I describe?

Clues:
1.This aircraft was originally an attempt to redesign and correct the design flaws in an earlier, failed aircraft.
2.It essentially married together the design features of the failed aircraft, with the design features of a remarkably successful aircraft.
3.It also, in turn, influenced the design of a very famous aircraft, although that program was never completed.
4.One of the interesting things is that the aircraft was designed in one country, but built in another.
5.And eventually completed and flown by the second country.
6.It was to have been a high speed, high altitude bomber.
7.But the plane wasn’t completed in time to participate in the war; and was abandoned by the designer country.
8.But there is no question that, had it been completed in time, it would have been almost invulnerable to interception.
9.It was completed and used by the builder country for some years.
10.It was used for high altitude research initially.
11.Then it was used for research into air launched experimental aircraft.
12.This project actually began as a proposal to build a high altitude version of the failed bomber project which served as the “parent” of what later became this aircraft.
13.The idea was to create a high altitude version of a twin engined bomber by adding pressurized crew compartments, reducing the number of crew members and defensive armament and extending and redesigning the wings.
14.This eventually led to a complete redesign, which added two engines.
15.The result was an aircraft which was considerably faster; and which could fly at more than twice the altitude of the parent aircraft.
16.The combination of altitude and speed was such that it was felt the opposing fighter aircraft would be unable to intercept the aircraft.
17.At the same time, a very long range version of the new design was being prepared.
18.Since the offspring of our subject aircraft was also coming into being at the time, this resulted in three different, but very closely related, projects being developed simultaneously.
19.Thus, the decision was made to have this, our subject aircraft, built in a different country; one with considerable experience building aircraft and with a lot of unused capacity in terms of facilities and trained technical staff.
20.The offspring of our subject aircraft was, ironically, itself a twin engined aircraft.
21.Thus the cycle of two engines, four engines, two engines; in the succession of what were three different aircraft designs; versions of each which were intended to fulfill a variety of roles ranging from bomber to long range and high altitude bombers.
22.And, to complete the irony, the offspring aircraft, originally designed as a bomber, was redesigned as a high speed fighter.
23.A night fighter.
24.Our subject aircraft was to have been a high speed, high altitude bomber, but was only flown as an experimental, high altitude research aircraft; which was later used to launch test experimental high speed aircraft.
25.Our subject aircraft was first envisioned in 1938.
26.And first flew in 1945.
27.Had any of the three parallel development aircraft become operationally ready a bit earlier; they would be household names today.
28.The second aircraft was first flown in 1947.
29.And those two were the only ones ever built.
30.Empty, they were to have weighed over 45,000 pounds.
31.Fully loaded and armed, they were to have weighed over 80,000 pounds.
32.Maximum speed was to have been over 350 MPH.
33.At over 35,000 feet.
34.This aircraft was designed by a major designer and manufacturer of aircraft; one easily recognized.
35.The eventual completion and flight use was also done by an easily recognizable aircraft manufacturing entity.
36.And, it was actually being built, prior to its abandonment by the designers, by yet another well-known and easily recognizable aircraft manufacturing entity.
37.The designer company was also working on a small handful of prototypes at its headquarters plant in the owning country; but those were never completed.
38.The company which ultimately completed the two known prototypes actually utilized the facilities of the company in (36).
39.That company, the one which was originally building the two prototypes, was by then largely defunct; although they managed to survive, to some degree, until the mid-1950’s.
40.That company, over its lifetime, had designed and/or built more than 200 different types of aircraft.
41.And its name was that of a famous aviation pioneer.
42.The subject aircraft itself had a wingspan of nearly 150 feet.

Ernie P.

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Top_Gunn; yes the design was German. And, since you have now asked a question, I will post another clue. I don't plan on using this method very often, but it seemed the best way to help you guys get on track a bit faster without giving it away. Thanks; Ernie P.


Question: What warbird do I describe?

Clues:
1.This aircraft was originally an attempt to redesign and correct the design flaws in an earlier, failed aircraft.
2.It essentially married together the design features of the failed aircraft, with the design features of a remarkably successful aircraft.
3.It also, in turn, influenced the design of a very famous aircraft, although that program was never completed.
4.One of the interesting things is that the aircraft was designed in one country, but built in another.
5.And eventually completed and flown by the second country.
6.It was to have been a high speed, high altitude bomber.
7.But the plane wasn’t completed in time to participate in the war; and was abandoned by the designer country.
8.But there is no question that, had it been completed in time, it would have been almost invulnerable to interception.
9.It was completed and used by the builder country for some years.
10.It was used for high altitude research initially.
11.Then it was used for research into air launched experimental aircraft.
12.This project actually began as a proposal to build a high altitude version of the failed bomber project which served as the “parent” of what later became this aircraft.

13.The idea was to create a high altitude version of a twin engined bomber by adding pressurized crew compartments, reducing the number of crew members and defensive armament and extending and redesigning the wings.
14.This eventually led to a complete redesign, which added two engines.

15.The result was an aircraft which was considerably faster; and which could fly at more than twice the altitude of the parent aircraft.
16.The combination of altitude and speed was such that it was felt the opposing fighter aircraft would be unable to intercept the aircraft.

17.At the same time, a very long range version of the new design was being prepared.
18.Since the offspring of our subject aircraft was also coming into being at the time, this resulted in three different, but very closely related, projects being developed simultaneously.

19.Thus, the decision was made to have this, our subject aircraft, built in a different country; one with considerable experience building aircraft and with a lot of unused capacity in terms of facilities and trained technical staff.
20.The offspring of our subject aircraft was, ironically, itself a twin engined aircraft.

21.Thus the cycle of two engines, four engines, two engines; in the succession of what were three different aircraft designs; versions of each which were intended to fulfill a variety of roles ranging from bomber to long range and high altitude bombers.
22.And, to complete the irony, the offspring aircraft, originally designed as a bomber, was redesigned as a high speed fighter.

23.A night fighter.

24.Our subject aircraft was to have been a high speed, high altitude bomber, but was only flown as an experimental, high altitude research aircraft; which was later used to launch test experimental high speed aircraft.
25.Our subject aircraft was first envisioned in 1938.

26.And first flew in 1945.

27.Had any of the three parallel development aircraft become operationally ready a bit earlier; they would be household names today.
28.The second aircraft was first flown in 1947.
29.And those two were the only ones ever built.
30.Empty, they were to have weighed over 45,000 pounds.
31.Fully loaded and armed, they were to have weighed over 80,000 pounds.
32.Maximum speed was to have been over 350 MPH.

33.At over 35,000 feet.

34.This aircraft was designed by a major designer and manufacturer of aircraft; one easily recognized.
35.The eventual completion and flight use was also done by an easily recognizable aircraft manufacturing entity.
36.And, it was actually being built, prior to its abandonment by the designers, by yet another well-known and easily recognizable aircraft manufacturing entity.
37.The designer company was also working on a small handful of prototypes at its headquarters plant in the owning country; but those were never completed.
38.The company which ultimately completed the two known prototypes actually utilized the facilities of the company in (36).
39.That company, the one which was originally building the two prototypes, was by then largely defunct; although they managed to survive, to some degree, until the mid-1950’s.
40.That company, over its lifetime, had designed and/or built more than 200 different types of aircraft.
41.And its name was that of a famous aviation pioneer.
42.The subject aircraft itself had a wingspan of nearly 150 feet.

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Hydro Junkie

Was the plane built in the Soviet Union after the war?

I know several German designs and designers were captured and taken there, hence the question

Ernie P.

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Hydro Junkie; your question is perfectly understandable and, for several reasons, very reasonable. The answer is no. And here's another clue. One clue, one question, one clue, etc. I'm now awaiting the next question. Thanks; Ernie P.

Question: What warbird do I describe?

Clues:
1.This aircraft was originally an attempt to redesign and correct the design flaws in an earlier, failed aircraft.
2.It essentially married together the design features of the failed aircraft, with the design features of a remarkably successful aircraft.
3.It also, in turn, influenced the design of a very famous aircraft, although that program was never completed.
4.One of the interesting things is that the aircraft was designed in one country, but built in another.
5.And eventually completed and flown by the second country.
6.It was to have been a high speed, high altitude bomber.
7.But the plane wasn’t completed in time to participate in the war; and was abandoned by the designer country.
8.But there is no question that, had it been completed in time, it would have been almost invulnerable to interception.
9.It was completed and used by the builder country for some years.
10.It was used for high altitude research initially.
11.Then it was used for research into air launched experimental aircraft.
12.This project actually began as a proposal to build a high altitude version of the failed bomber project which served as the “parent” of what later became this aircraft.
13.The idea was to create a high altitude version of a twin engined bomber by adding pressurized crew compartments, reducing the number of crew members and defensive armament and extending and redesigning the wings.
14.This eventually led to a complete redesign, which added two engines.
15.The result was an aircraft which was considerably faster; and which could fly at more than twice the altitude of the parent aircraft.
16.The combination of altitude and speed was such that it was felt the opposing fighter aircraft would be unable to intercept the aircraft.
17.At the same time, a very long range version of the new design was being prepared.
18.Since the offspring of our subject aircraft was also coming into being at the time, this resulted in three different, but very closely related, projects being developed simultaneously.
19.Thus, the decision was made to have this, our subject aircraft, built in a different country; one with considerable experience building aircraft and with a lot of unused capacity in terms of facilities and trained technical staff.
20.The offspring of our subject aircraft was, ironically, itself a twin engined aircraft.
21.Thus the cycle of two engines, four engines, two engines; in the succession of what were three different aircraft designs; versions of each which were intended to fulfill a variety of roles ranging from bomber to long range and high altitude bombers.
22.And, to complete the irony, the offspring aircraft, originally designed as a bomber, was redesigned as a high speed fighter.
23.A night fighter.
24.Our subject aircraft was to have been a high speed, high altitude bomber, but was only flown as an experimental, high altitude research aircraft; which was later used to launch test experimental high speed aircraft.
25.Our subject aircraft was first envisioned in 1938.
26.And first flew in 1945.
27.Had any of the three parallel development aircraft become operationally ready a bit earlier; they would be household names today.
28.The second aircraft was first flown in 1947.
29.And those two were the only ones ever built.
30.Empty, they were to have weighed over 45,000 pounds.
31.Fully loaded and armed, they were to have weighed over 80,000 pounds.
32.Maximum speed was to have been over 350 MPH.
33.At over 35,000 feet.
34.This aircraft was designed by a major designer and manufacturer of aircraft; one easily recognized.
35.The eventual completion and flight use was also done by an easily recognizable aircraft manufacturing entity.
36.And, it was actually being built, prior to its abandonment by the designers, by yet another well-known and easily recognizable aircraft manufacturing entity.
37.The designer company was also working on a small handful of prototypes at its headquarters plant in the owning country; but those were never completed.
38.The company which ultimately completed the two known prototypes actually utilized the facilities of the company in (36).
39.That company, the one which was originally building the two prototypes, was by then largely defunct; although they managed to survive, to some degree, until the mid-1950’s.
40.That company, over its lifetime, had designed and/or built more than 200 different types of aircraft.
41.And its name was that of a famous aviation pioneer.
42.The subject aircraft itself had a wingspan of nearly 150 feet.
43.In wartime use, it was to have had a crew of four.

uncljoe

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Erine was it a Britsh design ?

Semper Fi
joe

Ernie P.

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Sorry, uncljoe; but no. We've already (see above from Top-Gunn) established the design was German. But here's another clue and now I'll accept another question. Thanks; Ernie P.

Question: What warbird do I describe?

Clues:1.This aircraft was originally an attempt to redesign and correct the design flaws in an earlier, failed aircraft.
2.It essentially married together the design features of the failed aircraft, with the design features of a remarkably successful aircraft.
3.It also, in turn, influenced the design of a very famous aircraft, although that program was never completed.
4.One of the interesting things is that the aircraft was designed in one country, but built in another.
5.And eventually completed and flown by the second country.
6.It was to have been a high speed, high altitude bomber.
7.But the plane wasn’t completed in time to participate in the war; and was abandoned by the designer country.
8.But there is no question that, had it been completed in time, it would have been almost invulnerable to interception.
9.It was completed and used by the builder country for some years.
10.It was used for high altitude research initially.
11.Then it was used for research into air launched experimental aircraft.
12.This project actually began as a proposal to build a high altitude version of the failed bomber project which served as the “parent” of what later became this aircraft.
13.The idea was to create a high altitude version of a twin engined bomber by adding pressurized crew compartments, reducing the number of crew members and defensive armament and extending and redesigning the wings.
14.This eventually led to a complete redesign, which added two engines.
15.The result was an aircraft which was considerably faster; and which could fly at more than twice the altitude of the parent aircraft.
16.The combination of altitude and speed was such that it was felt the opposing fighter aircraft would be unable to intercept the aircraft.
17.At the same time, a very long range version of the new design was being prepared.
18.Since the offspring of our subject aircraft was also coming into being at the time, this resulted in three different, but very closely related, projects being developed simultaneously.
19.Thus, the decision was made to have this, our subject aircraft, built in a different country; one with considerable experience building aircraft and with a lot of unused capacity in terms of facilities and trained technical staff.
20.The offspring of our subject aircraft was, ironically, itself a twin engined aircraft.
21.Thus the cycle of two engines, four engines, two engines; in the succession of what were three different aircraft designs; versions of each which were intended to fulfill a variety of roles ranging from bomber to long range and high altitude bombers.
22.And, to complete the irony, the offspring aircraft, originally designed as a bomber, was redesigned as a high speed fighter.
23.A night fighter.
24.Our subject aircraft was to have been a high speed, high altitude bomber, but was only flown as an experimental, high altitude research aircraft; which was later used to launch test experimental high speed aircraft.
25.Our subject aircraft was first envisioned in 1938.
26.And first flew in 1945.
27.Had any of the three parallel development aircraft become operationally ready a bit earlier; they would be household names today.
28.The second aircraft was first flown in 1947.
29.And those two were the only ones ever built.
30.Empty, they were to have weighed over 45,000 pounds.
31.Fully loaded and armed, they were to have weighed over 80,000 pounds.
32.Maximum speed was to have been over 350 MPH.
33.At over 35,000 feet.
34.This aircraft was designed by a major designer and manufacturer of aircraft; one easily recognized.
35.The eventual completion and flight use was also done by an easily recognizable aircraft manufacturing entity.
36.And, it was actually being built, prior to its abandonment by the designers, by yet another well-known and easily recognizable aircraft manufacturing entity.
37.The designer company was also working on a small handful of prototypes at its headquarters plant in the owning country; but those were never completed.
38.The company which ultimately completed the two known prototypes actually utilized the facilities of the company in (36).
39.That company, the one which was originally building the two prototypes, was by then largely defunct; although they managed to survive, to some degree, until the mid-1950’s.
40.That company, over its lifetime, had designed and/or built more than 200 different types of aircraft.
41.And its name was that of a famous aviation pioneer.
42.The subject aircraft itself had a wingspan of nearly 150 feet.
43.In wartime use, it was to have had a crew of four.
44.It could fly more than 2,000 miles.

proptop

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Would one of the companies happen to be Martin? (Glen L. Martin)
Another guess would be Curtiss, but I'm thinking "naaaahhh" ?

Ernie P.

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Sir; your instincts are correct. Answer: No, neither of those companies. However, you have earned another clue and thence the right to ask yet another question. BTW; the word "abandoned" in clue (7) is the correct word. Thanks; Ernie P.

Question: What warbird do I describe?

Clues:
1.This aircraft was originally an attempt to redesign and correct the design flaws in an earlier, failed aircraft.
2.It essentially married together the design features of the failed aircraft, with the design features of a remarkably successful aircraft.
3.It also, in turn, influenced the design of a very famous aircraft, although that program was never completed. 4
.One of the interesting things is that the aircraft was designed in one country, but built in another.
5.And eventually completed and flown by the second country.
6.It was to have been a high speed, high altitude bomber.
7.But the plane wasn’t completed in time to participate in the war; and was abandoned by the designer country.
8.But there is no question that, had it been completed in time, it would have been almost invulnerable to interception.
9.It was completed and used by the builder country for some years.
10.It was used for high altitude research initially.
11.Then it was used for research into air launched experimental aircraft.
12.This project actually began as a proposal to build a high altitude version of the failed bomber project which served as the “parent” of what later became this aircraft.
13.The idea was to create a high altitude version of a twin engined bomber by adding pressurized crew compartments, reducing the number of crew members and defensive armament and extending and redesigning the wings.
14.This eventually led to a complete redesign, which added two engines.
15.The result was an aircraft which was considerably faster; and which could fly at more than twice the altitude of the parent aircraft.
16.The combination of altitude and speed was such that it was felt the opposing fighter aircraft would be unable to intercept the aircraft.
17.At the same time, a very long range version of the new design was being prepared.
18.Since the offspring of our subject aircraft was also coming into being at the time, this resulted in three different, but very closely related, projects being developed simultaneously.
19.Thus, the decision was made to have this, our subject aircraft, built in a different country; one with considerable experience building aircraft and with a lot of unused capacity in terms of facilities and trained technical staff.
20.The offspring of our subject aircraft was, ironically, itself a twin engined aircraft.
21.Thus the cycle of two engines, four engines, two engines; in the succession of what were three different aircraft designs; versions of each which were intended to fulfill a variety of roles ranging from bomber to long range and high altitude bombers.
22.And, to complete the irony, the offspring aircraft, originally designed as a bomber, was redesigned as a high speed fighter.
23.A night fighter.
24.Our subject aircraft was to have been a high speed, high altitude bomber, but was only flown as an experimental, high altitude research aircraft; which was later used to launch test experimental high speed aircraft.
25.Our subject aircraft was first envisioned in 1938.
26.And first flew in 1945.
27.Had any of the three parallel development aircraft become operationally ready a bit earlier; they would be household names today.
28.The second aircraft was first flown in 1947.
29.And those two were the only ones ever built.
30.Empty, they were to have weighed over 45,000 pounds.
31.Fully loaded and armed, they were to have weighed over 80,000 pounds.
32.Maximum speed was to have been over 350 MPH.
33.At over 35,000 feet.
34.This aircraft was designed by a major designer and manufacturer of aircraft; one easily recognized.
35.The eventual completion and flight use was also done by an easily recognizable aircraft manufacturing entity.
36.And, it was actually being built, prior to its abandonment by the designers, by yet another well-known and easily recognizable aircraft manufacturing entity. 3
7.The designer company was also working on a small handful of prototypes at its headquarters plant in the owning country; but those were never completed.
38.The company which ultimately completed the two known prototypes actually utilized the facilities of the company in (36).
39.That company, the one which was originally building the two prototypes, was by then largely defunct; although they managed to survive, to some degree, until the mid-1950’s.
40.That company, over its lifetime, had designed and/or built more than 200 different types of aircraft.
41.And its name was that of a famous aviation pioneer. 4
2.The subject aircraft itself had a wingspan of nearly 150 feet.
43.In wartime use, it was to have had a crew of four.
44.It could fly more than 2,000 miles.
45.It was to have carried a bombload in excess of 8,000 pounds.

Hydro Junkie

Okay, question time:
Was the plane's design picked up by the Japanese?

Ernie P.

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The answer is "no". However, you are now focusing on what I consider to be the most obvious clue. I will now post another clue, and I am awaiting the next question. Thanks; Ernie P.

Question: What warbird do I describe?

Clues:
1.This aircraft was originally an attempt to redesign and correct the design flaws in an earlier, failed aircraft.
2.It essentially married together the design features of the failed aircraft, with the design features of a remarkably successful aircraft.
3.It also, in turn, influenced the design of a very famous aircraft, although that program was never completed.
4.One of the interesting things is that the aircraft was designed in one country, but built in another.
5.And eventually completed and flown by the second country.
6.It was to have been a high speed, high altitude bomber.
7.But the plane wasn’t completed in time to participate in the war; and was abandoned by the designer country.
8.But there is no question that, had it been completed in time, it would have been almost invulnerable to interception.
9.It was completed and used by the builder country for some years.
10.It was used for high altitude research initially.
11.Then it was used for research into air launched experimental aircraft.
12.This project actually began as a proposal to build a high altitude version of the failed bomber project which served as the “parent” of what later became this aircraft.
13.The idea was to create a high altitude version of a twin engined bomber by adding pressurized crew compartments, reducing the number of crew members and defensive armament and extending and redesigning the wings.
14.This eventually led to a complete redesign, which added two engines.
15.The result was an aircraft which was considerably faster; and which could fly at more than twice the altitude of the parent aircraft.
16.The combination of altitude and speed was such that it was felt the opposing fighter aircraft would be unable to intercept the aircraft.
17.At the same time, a very long range version of the new design was being prepared.
18.Since the offspring of our subject aircraft was also coming into being at the time, this resulted in three different, but very closely related, projects being developed simultaneously.
19.Thus, the decision was made to have this, our subject aircraft, built in a different country; one with considerable experience building aircraft and with a lot of unused capacity in terms of facilities and trained technical staff.
20.The offspring of our subject aircraft was, ironically, itself a twin engined aircraft.
21.Thus the cycle of two engines, four engines, two engines; in the succession of what were three different aircraft designs; versions of each which were intended to fulfill a variety of roles ranging from bomber to long range and high altitude bombers.
22.And, to complete the irony, the offspring aircraft, originally designed as a bomber, was redesigned as a high speed fighter.
23.A night fighter.
24.Our subject aircraft was to have been a high speed, high altitude bomber, but was only flown as an experimental, high altitude research aircraft; which was later used to launch test experimental high speed aircraft.
25.Our subject aircraft was first envisioned in 1938.
26.And first flew in 1945.
27.Had any of the three parallel development aircraft become operationally ready a bit earlier; they would be household names today.
28.The second aircraft was first flown in 1947.
29.And those two were the only ones ever built. 3
0.Empty, they were to have weighed over 45,000 pounds.
31.Fully loaded and armed, they were to have weighed over 80,000 pounds.
32.Maximum speed was to have been over 350 MPH.
33.At over 35,000 feet.
34.This aircraft was designed by a major designer and manufacturer of aircraft; one easily recognized.
35.The eventual completion and flight use was also done by an easily recognizable aircraft manufacturing entity.
36.And, it was actually being built, prior to its abandonment by the designers, by yet another well-known and easily recognizable aircraft manufacturing entity.
37.The designer company was also working on a small handful of prototypes at its headquarters plant in the owning country; but those were never completed.
38.The company which ultimately completed the two known prototypes actually utilized the facilities of the company in (36).
39.That company, the one which was originally building the two prototypes, was by then largely defunct; although they managed to survive, to some degree, until the mid-1950’s.
40.That company, over its lifetime, had designed and/or built more than 200 different types of aircraft.
41.And its name was that of a famous aviation pioneer.
42.The subject aircraft itself had a wingspan of nearly 150 feet.
43.In wartime use, it was to have had a crew of four.
44.It could fly more than 2,000 miles.
45.It was to have carried a bombload in excess of 8,000 pounds.
46.The bombload was carried internally.

Ernie P.

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Waiting on a question. If you don't know the answer, you should have lots of questions, right? Now's your chance to get answers. Thanks; Ernie P.

Hydro Junkie

Was the plane built by an American firm?

Ernie P.

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No, Sir; the plane was not built by an American firm. But here's another clue, to reward your attempt. Thanks; Ernie P.

Question: What warbird do I describe?

Clues:
1.This aircraft was originally an attempt to redesign and correct the design flaws in an earlier, failed aircraft.
2.It essentially married together the design features of the failed aircraft, with the design features of a remarkably successful aircraft.
3.It also, in turn, influenced the design of a very famous aircraft, although that program was never completed.
4.One of the interesting things is that the aircraft was designed in one country, but built in another.
5.And eventually completed and flown by the second country.
6.It was to have been a high speed, high altitude bomber.
7.But the plane wasn’t completed in time to participate in the war; and was abandoned by the designer country.
8.But there is no question that, had it been completed in time, it would have been almost invulnerable to interception.
9.It was completed and used by the builder country for some years.
10.It was used for high altitude research initially.
11.Then it was used for research into air launched experimental aircraft.
12.This project actually began as a proposal to build a high altitude version of the failed bomber project which served as the “parent” of what later became this aircraft.
13.The idea was to create a high altitude version of a twin engined bomber by adding pressurized crew compartments, reducing the number of crew members and defensive armament and extending and redesigning the wings.
14.This eventually led to a complete redesign, which added two engines.
15.The result was an aircraft which was considerably faster; and which could fly at more than twice the altitude of the parent aircraft.
16.The combination of altitude and speed was such that it was felt the opposing fighter aircraft would be unable to intercept the aircraft.
17.At the same time, a very long range version of the new design was being prepared.
18.Since the offspring of our subject aircraft was also coming into being at the time, this resulted in three different, but very closely related, projects being developed simultaneously.
19.Thus, the decision was made to have this, our subject aircraft, built in a different country; one with considerable experience building aircraft and with a lot of unused capacity in terms of facilities and trained technical staff.
20.The offspring of our subject aircraft was, ironically, itself a twin engined aircraft.
21.Thus the cycle of two engines, four engines, two engines; in the succession of what were three different aircraft designs; versions of each which were intended to fulfill a variety of roles ranging from bomber to long range and high altitude bombers.
22.And, to complete the irony, the offspring aircraft, originally designed as a bomber, was redesigned as a high speed fighter.
23.A night fighter.
24.Our subject aircraft was to have been a high speed, high altitude bomber, but was only flown as an experimental, high altitude research aircraft; which was later used to launch test experimental high speed aircraft.
25.Our subject aircraft was first envisioned in 1938.
26.And first flew in 1945.
27.Had any of the three parallel development aircraft become operationally ready a bit earlier; they would be household names today.
28.The second aircraft was first flown in 1947.
29.And those two were the only ones ever built.
30.Empty, they were to have weighed over 45,000 pounds.
31.Fully loaded and armed, they were to have weighed over 80,000 pounds.
32.Maximum speed was to have been over 350 MPH.
33.At over 35,000 feet.
34.This aircraft was designed by a major designer and manufacturer of aircraft; one easily recognized.
35.The eventual completion and flight use was also done by an easily recognizable aircraft manufacturing entity.
36.And, it was actually being built, prior to its abandonment by the designers, by yet another well-known and easily recognizable aircraft manufacturing entity.
37.The designer company was also working on a small handful of prototypes at its headquarters plant in the owning country; but those were never completed.
38.The company which ultimately completed the two known prototypes actually utilized the facilities of the company in (36).
39.That company, the one which was originally building the two prototypes, was by then largely defunct; although they managed to survive, to some degree, until the mid-1950’s.
40.That company, over its lifetime, had designed and/or built more than 200 different types of aircraft.
41.And its name was that of a famous aviation pioneer.
42.The subject aircraft itself had a wingspan of nearly 150 feet.
43.In wartime use, it was to have had a crew of four.
44.It could fly more than 2,000 miles.
45.It was to have carried a bombload in excess of 8,000 pounds.
46.The bombload was carried internally.
47.It had two separate pressurized crew compartments.

Hydro Junkie

Going to take a shot at another one, the ME-264

Hydro Junkie

Let's throw out another question:
Was the plane designed by Messerschmitt?

Ernie P.

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Hydro Junkie; the answer is "No", the subject warbird was not designed by Messerschmitt. FWIW, I always thought the Me 264 was an awesome looking aircraft; very brutal and powerful in appearance. But, nothing to do with this quiz. However, you now have another clue and another opportunity to ask yet another question. Thanks; Ernie P.

Question: What warbird do I describe?

Clues:
1.This aircraft was originally an attempt to redesign and correct the design flaws in an earlier, failed aircraft.
2.It essentially married together the design features of the failed aircraft, with the design features of a remarkably successful aircraft.
3.It also, in turn, influenced the design of a very famous aircraft, although that program was never completed.
4.One of the interesting things is that the aircraft was designed in one country, but built in another.
5.And eventually completed and flown by the second country.
6.It was to have been a high speed, high altitude bomber.
7.But the plane wasn’t completed in time to participate in the war; and was abandoned by the designer country.
8.But there is no question that, had it been completed in time, it would have been almost invulnerable to interception.
9.It was completed and used by the builder country for some years.
10.It was used for high altitude research initially.
11.Then it was used for research into air launched experimental aircraft.
12.This project actually began as a proposal to build a high altitude version of the failed bomber project which served as the “parent” of what later became this aircraft.
13.The idea was to create a high altitude version of a twin engined bomber by adding pressurized crew compartments, reducing the number of crew members and defensive armament and extending and redesigning the wings.
14.This eventually led to a complete redesign, which added two engines.
15.The result was an aircraft which was considerably faster; and which could fly at more than twice the altitude of the parent aircraft.
16.The combination of altitude and speed was such that it was felt the opposing fighter aircraft would be unable to intercept the aircraft.
17.At the same time, a very long range version of the new design was being prepared.
18.Since the offspring of our subject aircraft was also coming into being at the time, this resulted in three different, but very closely related, projects being developed simultaneously.
19.Thus, the decision was made to have this, our subject aircraft, built in a different country; one with considerable experience building aircraft and with a lot of unused capacity in terms of facilities and trained technical staff.
20.The offspring of our subject aircraft was, ironically, itself a twin engined aircraft.
21.Thus the cycle of two engines, four engines, two engines; in the succession of what were three different aircraft designs; versions of each which were intended to fulfill a variety of roles ranging from bomber to long range and high altitude bombers.
22.And, to complete the irony, the offspring aircraft, originally designed as a bomber, was redesigned as a high speed fighter.
23.A night fighter.
24.Our subject aircraft was to have been a high speed, high altitude bomber, but was only flown as an experimental, high altitude research aircraft; which was later used to launch test experimental high speed aircraft.
25.Our subject aircraft was first envisioned in 1938.
26.And first flew in 1945.
27.Had any of the three parallel development aircraft become operationally ready a bit earlier; they would be household names today.
28.The second aircraft was first flown in 1947.
29.And those two were the only ones ever built.
30.Empty, they were to have weighed over 45,000 pounds.
31.Fully loaded and armed, they were to have weighed over 80,000 pounds.
32.Maximum speed was to have been over 350 MPH.
33.At over 35,000 feet.
34.This aircraft was designed by a major designer and manufacturer of aircraft; one easily recognized.
35.The eventual completion and flight use was also done by an easily recognizable aircraft manufacturing entity.
36.And, it was actually being built, prior to its abandonment by the designers, by yet another well-known and easily recognizable aircraft manufacturing entity.
37.The designer company was also working on a small handful of prototypes at its headquarters plant in the owning country; but those were never completed.
38.The company which ultimately completed the two known prototypes actually utilized the facilities of the company in (36).
39.That company, the one which was originally building the two prototypes, was by then largely defunct; although they managed to survive, to some degree, until the mid-1950’s.
40.That company, over its lifetime, had designed and/or built more than 200 different types of aircraft.
41.And its name was that of a famous aviation pioneer.
42.The subject aircraft itself had a wingspan of nearly 150 feet.
43.In wartime use, it was to have had a crew of four.
44.It could fly more than 2,000 miles.
45.It was to have carried a bombload in excess of 8,000 pounds.
46.The bombload was carried internally.
47.It had two separate pressurized crew compartments.
48.In its design the capacity for inflight refueling was under consideration.

Ernie P.

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BTW; just so everyone is clear on this point: This question involves an actual aircraft, which was designed, built and which flew. It isn't about someone's pipedream paper design. Just reassuring everyone. Thanks; Ernie P.