cfircav8r

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That was stopped by the media coverage. Think earlier.

uncljoe

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I know it couldn't be in WW II with Dresden ,and a few other ruined cities.

Ernie P.

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To clarify: You're saying the successful bombing campaign was halted *because* the media self imposed censorship upon themselves? Thanks; Ernie P.

cfircav8r

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Yes, and a hint it was WWII and no pilots were involved.

Ernie P.

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So the Germans stopped the V-1 flights because the Allied media hid the results? Thanks; Ernie P.

Ernie P.

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Just guessing here; but could you be talking about the "disinformation" campaign by British Intelligence Services, which convinced the Germans to re-target the V-1's and V-2's? I know the newspapers went along with the plot willingly. Is the below what you're referencing? Thanks; Ernie P.



An estimated 2,754 civilians were killed in London by V-2 attacks with another 6,523 injured,[29] which is two people killed per V-2 rocket. However, this understates the potential of the V-2, since many rockets were misdirected and exploded harmlessly. Accuracy increased greatly over the course of the war, particularly on batteries where Leitstrahl-Guide Beam apparatus was installed, with V-2s sometimes landing within meters of the target.[30] Accurately targeted missiles were often devastating, causing large numbers of deaths—160 killed and 108 seriously injured (the worst loss of life in a single V2 attack), in one explosion on 25 November 1944 in mid-afternoon, striking a Woolworth's department store in New Cross, south-east London (plus 108 seriously injured) and 567 deaths in a cinema in Antwerp—and significant damage in the critically important Antwerp docks.

As a result of such deadly targeting, British intelligence leaked falsified information implying that the rockets were over-shooting their London target by 10 to 20 miles. This tactic worked and for the remainder of the war most landed in Kent due to erroneous recalibration.[31]

The final two exploded on 27 March 1945. One of these represented the last V2 to kill a British civilian: Mrs. Ivy Millichamp, aged 34, killed in her home in Elm Grove, Orpington in Kent, evidencing the German re-calibration.

A scientific reconstruction carried out in 2010 demonstrated that the V2 creates a crater 20m wide and 8m deep, throwing up around 3000 tons of material into the air.

cfircav8r

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Close, but that was due to misinformation this was just a lack of information making the enemy believe they never made it. Hint 2: think long distance.

P-51B

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How about the Fu-Go (Japanese Balloon Bombs)?

Evil_Merlin

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I agree, the Fu-Go's. The press claimed only one bomb made it to the US, and thus Japan stopped using them. In reality over 300 were thought ot have made it to the US.

cfircav8r

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P-51B you are correct, and while they did not have the precision of the V-2's they wreaked havok on the west coast. they started forest and grass fires that had it continued could have gotten out of control and threatened war production. After the first report the media was asked to not report any more in the hopes that Japan would give up the bombing and it worked. What are the odds that the media would listen today?

Ernie P.

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Now that it has been mentioned, I remember reading something (Readers Digest?) a long time ago, about the media cooperating in the deception. That had slipped my mind, until I saw it here. Great question! Thanks; Ernie P.

P-51B

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O.K., I am going to change it up a bit just for a little break from all the history (weekend and all!)

What are the items in the photo, and why did I find them particularly interesting (besides the obvious fact of what they are)?




I won't be able to check back in until late tomorrow, but you should all be out flying anyway right?

uncljoe

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Packard Merlin engines maybe rebuilt for a P 51 also there appears to be one(red/white/blue)that might even been installed in Miss Budweiser .... Sure looks like quite the investment for the owner,which appears to have cornered the market

Ernie P.

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Is it just me; or is that relatively flimsy looking shelving holding almost 40,000 pounds? Thanks; Ernie P.

IRZoid

Could it be that these engines are Allison V-1710's and would have been in P-51B's, the same as your forum name and that appears to be a scaled down wing of a P-51.

P-51B

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Irzoid, you have the Allison engine part, but they would have been used in the P-51A or other aircraft, not the B or later model which used the Merlin.

As a clue to the second part of the question; look closely at what each of them is sitting on (not the shelves Ernie, although that was a funny answer!).

Ernie P.

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Okay; they're all ready to ship. There's a big market in rebuilding Allison's for other aircraft, whose engines aren't available. Thanks; Ernie P.

P-51B

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Irzoid and Ernie, you have each come close to the correct answer, so whichever one comes up with the next question first and posts it, is up!


The full answer is that they are Allison engines, and the part I found really interesting is that are all FACTORY NEW and still attached to their ORIGINAL shipping pallets, including the signed final inspection tags! (this according to the tour guide)

They can be seen in person by anyone stopping by the Fantasy Flight Museum in Florida.

Ernie P.

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Actually, I noticed that; but didn't attach any significance to it. Oh, well.

I've had plenty of opportunity to ask questions; so I'll give Irzoid a couple of hours head start. But no more than a few hours! <g> Thanks; Ernie P.

IRZoid

I thought I had seen those before. I was at Fantasy of Flight a few weeks ago. It's a great museum.

Ernie, go ahead with your question, I don't have one ready.

Bill

Ernie P.

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Okay; this is a curious question. It should be an easy one; but it's one a lot of people don't know. Thanks; Ernie P.

Question:
During WWII, the exploits of German fighter pilots, such as Hartmann, Barkhorn, Marseilles, etc are well known. What isn't so well known is that the German fighter forces were, from the very beginning, always handicapped by Luftwaffe policy. What was this Luftwaffe policy; and how did it affect the fighter forces?

Evil_Merlin

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One word.

Göring

Ram-bro

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Like the Amerricans later in the war, they could not leave the bombers

Ram-bro

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how about it was strictly a tactical airforce with no startegic or long range forces

Ernie P.

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Several good, and true, answers; but not what I'm looking for. It isn't opinion, it wasn't tactics, it was one very simple policy. Thanks; Ernie P.

Okay; this is a curious question. It should be an easy one; but it's one a lot of people don't know. Thanks; Ernie P.

Question:
During WWII, the exploits of German fighter pilots, such as Hartmann, Barkhorn, Marseilles, etc are well known. What isn't so well known is that the German fighter forces were, from the very beginning, always handicapped by Luftwaffe policy. What was this Luftwaffe policy; and how did it affect the fighter forces?

Clues:

(1) This policy was in effect from the very beginning of the Luftwaffe, well prior to the start of WWII; and ensured the fighter force Germany created was less than what it might have been. Germany arguably could have fielded a much better fighter force, but for this simple policy.