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Old 12-12-2010, 04:25 AM
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Does anyone know why the Nieuport's and Sopwith Pup kits cost $70 less than the DVII?
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Because... they are cheaper.
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Now that funny! I don't care who you are.
I would guess that there are less costs involved. Less parts, less labor, that sort of thing.
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I've built both Nieuports and alittle of the pup.

There are simply less parts and accessory (abs) parts in the kits.
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They are significantly smaller.
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Thanks for the information.
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I was doing alittle color testing on the bottom of the LG sub wing Saturday night until the Blizzard knocked out the power. I don't think it looks too bad.
The blue may be abit too light but it's good enough for me.[sm=wink_smile.gif]

Also pictured are some good reference books from Osprey and Squadron for those interested.
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Old 12-13-2010, 11:39 PM
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Looks great to me! Good job.
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I know what you are up against, I did the same thing on a 1/4 busa D7 a few years ago. You are even doing it the extra hard way by painting in the stagger from the offset cloth pattern..To save some work I just repeated it across the wing in one big swath, and, I made the lozenges bigger than they really were..to save some time...

I also painted the pattern on my subwing on the landing gear because I liked it. However if you research it the people that are experts say the wheel wing was sheeted plywood..not fabric, and it was I BELIEVE green on top and blue grey on the bottom... However I am from the school of do it like you want,so keep up the great work..Its going to be awesome...
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And the colors fade over time just like the full size planes. Nice job. So now I found out that WB sells the wheels with the tires already white. I guess that teaches me to do a bit of looking first. Oh well. I just joined the top wing all together. It sure looks bigger in the shop than it does at the field.
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Foodstick

Yea, that's a controversial subject. Although, I've studied alot of black and white pics and some show the lozenge pattern on them. Fabric covered or painted on the ply or fabric covered ply? Who knows for sure. Maybe one of those "it depends on when and where the plane was manufactured issues?"

I've got a color pic of a D-VII with it covered with lozenge both top and bottom but I can't seem to upload it here.

OK , I got it to work.

Kinda looks familiar.
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Great looking build! I also am building this plane and have purchased the genoah G-26. From reading your posts I am afraid I may be under powered. I am at 3200ft here in Lubbock. Need some input on the best powerplant to use before I go any further on my build. The G-26 is the electronic engine, not the magneto version. Like your idea on the tubes for the servo cables, will try to shoehorn some in my finished but not covered wing. If you think I need to go up to the G-38 I have a friend with one I may be able to work a swap with. Nubby and any input appreciated!
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I think the minimum for this plane is a DLE 30. I know, ther will be a bunch saying thiers flys great with a G26, but minie is marginal with the G-38 at 5,000' altitude. In fact, If I were to do over, I would use a G45 or a DLE 55. Just my opinion. I have been flying mine for 4 years now. You need nose weight anyway. It may as well be power.
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Yea, I think a G-38 would be smallest engine choice. I was seriously thinking about putting a G-45 in mine but I'll try the G-38 first. I always like the 38 because of the rear exhaust. But in the case with this plane, the engine is mounted upright and I think a side exhaust engine might work out easier. Just a thought.

Plus once you go with a Zenoha G-38 or bigger, you can use a spring starter.

Now if you went with a reduction drive setup you could probably get away with a G-26. I'd like to use one with the G-38 , But I think the pulley would stick out of the bottom of the cowl.
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Interesting, I have an Alpina A330 marketed by Bill Bennett that has a spring starter.. I never thought that maybe only the bigger engines came with them. Thanks for the info.

Sincerely, Richard
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It is strange to think that of all the time I spend looking at pictures and drawings, that things like white wheels and plywood covered landing gear spreaded box would get missed during the build. I guess I will just have to get it right in this build, and try to remember that its just for fun and not entering any Scale Master event. Oh wel, back to the build.
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I have a 46 poulan converted motor in mine, and It is a real nice combination..I think a G26 could be scary if you don't build super light, OR IF YOU HAVE ANY WINDS COME UP ....


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Old 12-19-2010, 08:22 AM
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Warbird Man, can you give me more info on the reduction system you mentioned?
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A reduction drive allows you to swing a bigger more scale size prop at less rpm on the engine. Cool setup. Check out the rc scale forum. Theres a thread on reduction drives for G-20s 26,38 etc.

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I believe the G38 reduction drive will fly the 1/3 busa pup ! I wasn't aware there were G26 versions floating around?
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how about a reduction system for my Saito 2.20 fourstroke?
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No such animal for a 4cyc. glow engine that I know of. I've only seen them for 2cyc. gassers.
Old 12-21-2010, 12:55 PM
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Thats OK, It sounds good and swings a fair size prop as it is. Still it would be nice to swing that "scale" prop.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99JUwz97kp8
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Didn't have alot of time to work on it over the holiday, but I did manage to get the "first" coat of colors on. I'm also using a latex "extender" mixed in with the paint. It thins and slows the drying time down so the paint brushes out smoothly without caking up and leaving brush marks. It doesn't affect the curing time.
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Old 12-31-2010, 08:07 AM
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I know that it does not mean much, but....DAMN! I'm impressed! Thats nice work.
The first time I built the upper cowling I did not galss it. Just painted it and it looked ok and the strength was good. But it still looked like wood painted over of course. I did not want to get as involved as glassing the front and then sanding, filling, sanding, etc. So I just put a thin coat of Z-poxy over the thing and after a light sanding, it is smooth as metal. Should look great when painted. Can't wait to see them side by side.


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