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I also like the ROTO 35. I heard the ZDZ40 had issues with the induction I think so you might want to check into that.

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I don´t understand: "had issues", could you describe it for me please? Do you mean they had some problem with the unduction?

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It was something to do with the carb. Do a search in the Gas Forum here is one link I found. There may not be a problem Im just saying check into it.

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_10...m.htm#10765252

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I know, that ZDZ had some problem with engine two or three years ago. It was caused by a new technologies and seperation from the Valach motors. My friend had ZDZ 40 and he had problems with this engine, but I don´t know how good are these engines now.
I´m very suprised that ZDZ nad ROTO engines are famous in USA.

Here´s the one ZDZ 40 for sale: http://inzerce.modelbazar.cz/inzerat/ZDZ-40/496247/
You can try it, I don´t want to be the first who try it! :D

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My success with the DLE's and a Evolution 26 leads me to say either would be a good choice.

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Nitro test is complete.

Sonny,

I soaked a 4 x 4 piece of wood painted with latex and cleared with Monokote Flat Clear spray and the fuel had no effect on the paint. As a matter of fact I wiped the fuel off with a shop rag and no paint or clear coat damage took place. My plan for future glow engine planes is to use latex paint and this clear coat.

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#1;
Thank you for that info!!! This give me to very good places to buy paints to re-do any ARF and kits build that I may do in the future!!!
Thanks again, #1!!!
Sonny
aka
jet22b

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am new into, had fly 20 years ago, always loved the spits

you can spread the contact first battle on, an when the airstrike is announced all the people of the battlefield and then lets the birds come over for a sweep only with expierenced pilots ... would be an extra consideration for clubmembers to be there and ride on ...
its not that hard to practise at home some weeks, these little birds have stabilisator systems into it so with a little practise most people can fly with it but its not a toy remember that when somebody wants to try, its no then !!!

i found one just scale 1/16 4 channel from durafly models wings 1100mm

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3xayo2l_80[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llkwCSyHPxE[/youtube]

<div>Prijs 139 dollar</div><div></div><div>Durafly Supermarine Spitfire Mk 24 with Retracts/Flaps/Nav Lights (PNF)</div><div></div><div>http://imageshack.us/a/img22/2927/32431313.jpg</div><div>http://imageshack.us/a/img836/2082/324312.jpg</div><div>http://imageshack.us/a/img407/3038/spit413.jpg</div><div></div><div></div><div>Durafly once again set the standard with this beautiful Mk 24 Spitfire, no Warbird collection could be complete without this most iconic of fighters, the Spitfire was the only allied fighter to be in service from pre to post WW2, this final version of RJ Mitchell's masterpiece was a testament to the brilliance of his design. The Mk 24's graceful yet aggressive lines make it one of the most handsome fighters ever built and there can be no doubt, Durafly have captured the very essence of the ultimate Spitfire!</div><div></div><div>As well as looking fantastic, this Spitfire is plug and fly, meaning very little assembly work is needed. The powerful outrunner motor, ESC, navigation lights, servoless electric retracts, split flaps &amp; servos are all pre-installed leaving you with little to do, in fact you could easily be in the air in less than half an hour! At 1100mm wing span, the Spitfire is easy to transport, helped by it's easily removable wing and as it uses the ever-green 2200mAh 3s Lipoly battery, the Spit is as practical and cheap to run as the rest of the Durafly range. The modular design of the Spitfire also means parts are easy and fast to replace in the case of the worst happening, so your pride and joy can look pristine at all times!</div><div></div><div>We have flown this superb Spitfire extensively during testing and it will not disappoint, it is easy to fly but is so realistic and capable that it will satisfy the most seasoned warbird pilot. The proper split flaps, which are operated by "slow" servos offer rock solid low speed confidence without a hint of ballooning or pitch change when deployed. Spitfires have a reputation for being prone to ground handling difficulties at times but not this Spitfire! The combination of raked forward, yet scale looking &amp; pre-installed retracts, effective tailwheel steering and generous size scale rudder make this Spitfire amazingly well behaved on the ground. This is the best Durafly Warbird yet, it is easy to build and fly yet offers superbly realistic speed, climb rate &amp; aerobatic performance while being practical yet charismatic, it is a true classic!</div><div></div><div>*Note: Some customers may find the CG indicated at 120mm from the L/E in the supplied instruction manual. This is a printing error that has since been corrected. The actual CG being approximately 70mm from the L/E. An amended instruction manual can also be downloaded from the "Files" tab below.</div><div></div><div>Features:</div><div>&bull; Ultra High Level of Scale Detail</div><div>&bull; Exclusive and Unique Spitfire Mark</div><div>&bull; High Quality Construction &amp; Finish</div><div>&bull;Unbeatable combination of genuine scale looks and high level of features fitted as standard</div><div>&bull; Offers a wide flight envelope combining stability &amp; predictability with excellent performance and genuine aerobatic precision</div><div>&bull; Stable and Predictable Slow and Scale Flight Performance</div><div>&bull; Plug &amp; Fly, simply add RX and Lipoly (not included) and fly!</div><div>&bull; Pre-Installed Scale Split Flaps with slow servo's for added realism and to help prevent ballooning</div><div>&bull; Pre-Installed Servoless Retracts with rubber tyres &amp; gear doors AS STANDARD</div><div>&bull; Tough EPO Foam Construction</div><div>&bull; Pre-Installed Navigation Lights</div><div>&bull; Easy and Fast Construction</div><div>&bull; Fast access Battery hatch</div><div>&bull; Steerable Tail Wheel with Independent adjustment</div><div>&bull; Raked U/C to prevent nose overs</div><div></div><div>Specs:</div><div>Wingspan: 1100mm</div><div>Length: 970mm</div><div>Flying Weight: 1200g</div><div>Motor: 3536 750kv Brushless Outrunner Motor</div><div>ESC: 35A w/BEC</div><div>Wing Area: 21.9dm2</div><div>Wing Loading: 54.5/dm2</div><div></div><div>Includes:</div><div>Full photo manual</div><div>All hardware</div><div></div><div>Requires:</div><div>Your Own 6 Channel TX/RX</div><div>2200mAh 3s Lipoly Battery</div><div></div><div>PRODUCT ID: 9142000140

here is the topic on the belgian BTB site :http://forum.battletanksbelgie.be/viewtopic.php?f=10&amp;t=2095</div>

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http://imageshack.us/a/img824/2672/m...tfirefs650.jpg
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the numbering of the Durafly Spit 24 exist , great to know you fly a real legend

<div>http://imageshack.us/a/img10/9753/ad2as.jpg</div><div>
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<div>This is the reason of my three posts here , we are rc tankers, we have a big battlefield ... after may a RAF section would be reserved for this 3 warbirds, the first two are ordered or soon

Just did today the order on EP Shop in belgium fro the Parkzone Spitfire Mk9 , sending a<span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.727272033691406px; line-height: 17.99715805053711px;">advance via homebanking ... the delivery is about 10 may price : 159 euro

<br type="_moz" /></span></div><div><span style="font-size: larger;">PARKZONE SPITFIRE MK IX PNF (PKZ5775)</span></div><div></div><div>http://imageshack.us/a/img828/9493/pkz57800.jpg</div><div>http://imageshack.us/a/img828/6392/sspitfire3.jpg</div><div>http://imageshack.us/a/img820/4008/jo31216.jpg</div><div>http://imageshack.us/a/img256/149/img5352yh.jpg</div><div></div><div></div><div><ul style="line-height: 16px; color: rgb(102, 102, 102); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"> <li style="list-style-type: none; margin-left: -32px; padding-top: 3px; padding-bottom: 3px;">Spektrum&trade; AR600 DSM2/DSMX receiver, installed <li style="list-style-type: none; margin-left: -32px; padding-top: 3px; padding-bottom: 3px;">4-channel control &ndash; throttle, elevator, aileron and rudder <li style="list-style-type: none; margin-left: -32px; padding-top: 3px; padding-bottom: 3px;">Powerful 15- sized BL outrunner; 950Kv, installed <li style="list-style-type: none; margin-left: -32px; padding-top: 3px; padding-bottom: 3px;">E-flite&reg; 30A Pro Switch-Mode BEC brushless ESC, installed <li style="list-style-type: none; margin-left: -32px; padding-top: 3px; padding-bottom: 3px;">Servos, installed <li style="list-style-type: none; margin-left: -32px; padding-top: 3px; padding-bottom: 3px;">Dual aileron servos for precise control <li style="list-style-type: none; margin-left: -32px; padding-top: 3px; padding-bottom: 3px;">Designed to accept E-flite electric retracts (EFLG100), sold separately <li style="list-style-type: none; margin-left: -32px; padding-top: 3px; padding-bottom: 3px;">Durable Z-Foam&trade; construction <li style="list-style-type: none; margin-left: -32px; padding-top: 3px; padding-bottom: 3px;">20mm cannon, exhaust and cockpit details <li style="list-style-type: none; margin-left: -32px; padding-top: 3px; padding-bottom: 3px;">Authentic Johnnie Johnson World War II trim scheme <li style="list-style-type: none; margin-left: -32px; padding-top: 3px; padding-bottom: 3px;">Includes 3S 2200mAh 25C Li-Po battery <li style="list-style-type: none; margin-left: -32px; padding-top: 3px; padding-bottom: 3px;">Includes 2- to 3-cell DC variable rate charger <li style="list-style-type: none; margin-left: -32px; padding-top: 3px; padding-bottom: 3px;">This model is one of the many available for the Phoenix RC Flight Simulator[/list]</div><div><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="99%" style="color: rgb(102, 102, 102); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;"> <tbody> <tr> <td><span class="sttl">Wingspan:</span></td> <td>43.2 in (1100mm)</td> </tr> <tr> <td><span class="sttl">Overall Length:</span></td> <td>37.3 in (950mm)</td> </tr> <tr> <td><span class="sttl">Flying Weight:</span></td> <td>41.1 oz (1170 g)</td> </tr> <tr> <td><span class="sttl">Motor Size:</span></td> <td>15-size 960Kv Brushless Outrunner (installed)</td> </tr> <tr> <td><span class="sttl">Radio:</span></td> <td>4 channel minimum; 5 channels for optional retract use</td> </tr> <tr> <td><span class="sttl">Servos:</span></td> <td>4 sub-micro servos (installed)</td> </tr> <tr> <td><span class="sttl">CG (center of gravity):</span></td> <td>2.55 in (65mm) back from the leading edge of the wing at the fuselage</td> </tr> <tr> <td><span class="sttl">Prop Size:</span></td> <td>9.5 x 7.5</td> </tr> <tr> <td><span class="sttl">Speed Control :</span></td> <td>30A Pro SB Brushless ESC (installed)</td> </tr> <tr> <td><span class="sttl">Recommended Battery:</span></td> <td>11.1V 2200mAh 3S 25C Li-Po (included)</td> </tr> <tr> <td><span class="sttl">Flaps:</span></td> <td>No</td> </tr> <tr> <td><span class="sttl">Retracts:</span></td> <td>Optional</td> </tr> <tr> <td><span class="sttl">Control Throw (Ailerons):</span></td> <td>Low: 11mm up/down; High: 15mm up/down</td> </tr> <tr> <td><span class="sttl">Control Throw (Elevator):</span></td> <td>Low: 10mm up/down; High: 13mm up/down</td> </tr> <tr> <td><span class="sttl">Control Throw (Rudder):</span></td> <td>Low: 18mm left/right; High: 25mm left/right</td> </tr> <tr> <td><span class="sttl">Charger:</span></td> <td>Variable rate balancing DC LiPo charger (included)</td> </tr> <tr> <td><span class="sttl">Landing Gear:</span></td> <td>Main Wheel Diameter: 2.25 inch (56mm)</td> </tr> <tr> <td><span class="sttl">Minimum Age Recommendation:</span></td> <td>14 years</td> </tr> <tr> <td><span class="sttl">Experience Level:</span></td> <td>Intermediate</td> </tr> <tr> <td><span class="sttl">Recommended Environment:</span></td> <td>Outdoor</td> </tr> <tr> <td><span class="sttl">Assembly Time:</span></td> <td>Less than 1 Hour</td> </tr> <tr> <td><span class="sttl">Is Assembly Required:</span></td> <td>Yes</td> </tr> </tbody></table></div><div>


<span style="font-size: larger;">Hobbyking Spitfire Mk24 PNP - 1100mm wingtips</span>
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<u><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 128);">i order this one in may in the netherlands warehouse , takes about four days ... 125 euro and 7 &euro; shipping</span></u></div><div></div><div></div><div>regardsles the scale the 1100mm is about 1/16, so the RAF airfield on the BTB battlefield is a fact half may, lateron i order the Hawker Hurricane 1100mm also


<div>http://imageshack.us/a/img822/9257/313cz.jpg</div><div>http://imageshack.us/a/img856/5383/414wr.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img803/3644/513f.jpg

<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 128);"><u>price of the hurricane is 116 euro </u></span></div><div></div></div>

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The VN492 is what Im refurbishing my MK 24 CJM Spitfire as. Ill be posting progress pics soon.

WBG

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I'm am considering buying the Hanger 9 Spitfire mark II 60. The manual states a .60-.61 2 stroke or .91-.100 4 stroke. The weight is 8-9 lbs and the wing span is 65" does anyone know why the engine size is so limited? I was thinking of using a .75 2 stroke. I live and fly at 6500' and we need bigger engines because of the altitude.

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Flew a couple more flights with the Kyosho Spit today and got into some more maneuvers...rolls, loops, point rolls, snap rolls, spins, etc. It does everything nice and smooth with lots of power. I pulled up into a steep climb and it just kept going until it was getting too small to see. The plane has a strong left swing on takeoff due to torque but the landings are slow and smooth with full flaps. A couple of times one of the electric retracts hung up initially but came down when I recycled the switch...they worked perfect on the ground.

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Hawk 131,
No real reason to limit the engine size. I know someone who put a DLE20 in his and it's been running fine and it's a pretty sturdy plane except for the following comment.

You have to beef up the firewall a little using the recommended engine sizes though, so definitely plan on doing this if you put a gas motor in it. [b]I know a couple of guys who've had the firewall come loose within 10-20 flights.[/b] I just bought a new fuse last year after an under powered takeoff crash and it's the same construction today as 4 years ago when I bought the first one. I added a couple of tri-stock pieces for reinforcement too because of seeing photos of some separation where the sides of the box glue together. Great plane with a SAITO 100 and 14x8 prop. A .75 should work well if you prop it right.

I know some guys in different forums said that they wrapped the whole front box area with fiberglass to keep it all together. I think it was a little excessive because they weren't using any motors outside the recommended range.

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Thanks for the info, I just thought it was strange that it was limited to a 60-61, I will put a 75 AX or a ST 90 on it with a on board glow and Pitts muffler.

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I like the look of silver colored Spitfires ... but can you see them in the air?

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Brother Perttime,
Back in the days when I flew full scale planes, silver planes was one of the hardest plane, ( at lest for me ), to see until it was almost on top of you. I think that why that color was on some planes back in the war. I have not seen to many RC planes with that color.
Now this is just my 2 cents!!!:D
Sonny
aka
jet22b

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Not if you close your eyes [X(]:D LOL

Im going to add some color to the leading edge of my wing. Maybe the red like the canvas for gun ports. Mine has the cannons on it but Im sure something will look good and be functional. I believe, however, that with the scoops on the bottom of the wings, those will show up as black dots I believe so Ill probably fly mine first before I put some color on that isn't scale :)

Guess will find out soon :)

WBG

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Jet,

The reason why some planes were left with their natural aluminum skins during the war, was because at that time, we had the complete air superiority...no need camouflage.

I read somewhere, that some guys thought that it made them a higher profile target. At the time they were trying to get the Luftwaffe to come up and fight them. They were trying to effectively wipe out the fighter force of the Luftwaffe. The war of attrition, that Germany could not win.

Either one makes sense.

I do believe that the spitfires actually may have been been painted silver though.

Casey





And you're right they are harder to see!

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Casey;
You are so right!!! The one thing I forgot to say in my last post, when the sun hit that aluminum skin, your eye will move to that spot in a heart beat!!! The one thing I like to do, is to have some color on the bottom of the wing. This let me know when the plane right side up and not up-side down. I have lost a few planes that way!!!
Sonny
aka
jet22b

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Hi Brothers,
I need some in-put and info from the Brotherhood!! I am looking to pick up the ESM Spitfire MKXIV 72.5 wing span ARF. For engine, I will be going with the Pterodacy PTE 36cc rear exhaust gas engine. I would love to hear the pro's and con's of this ARF and engine. I have been on Troy-Built website and saw the lay-out of the ARF and to tell you the truth, I like it!!! But I would like to hear from people who have or had this bird, and see the likes and di-likes of this ARF. I have also look at the side by side video of the DLE 30cc and the Pterodacy PTE 36cc gas motor. It look like the Pterodacy has a little more power than the DLE. Now I am not looking to do 3-D's, but, if the weight get a little high, this engine will handle it!!!
Thanks to all that answer this post!!!
Sonny
aka
jet22b

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The vast majority of silver Spitfires are indeed painted with silver dope rather than being natural aluminum. I've seen a few NMF Spits but they are few and far between and I can't recall ever seeing a late Mark Spit in NMF. I too find silver airplanes to be very difficult to keep oriented in flight and generally avoid silver finishes unless they include lots of trim colors.

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Regarding silver Spits, the only one I am aware of that served in the RAF in WW2 was MJ250 (UF-Q), an LF MkIXof 501 Sqn in Italy. See link below... there is a bit of a write up on it if you scroll halfway down. The BBMF have got an LF Mk XIV painted up as MJ250.

http://www.raf.mod.uk/bbmf/theaircra...erspitfire.cfm


I have seen an ex-RAFLF MK XIV, one ofabout 40that served in the Royal Thai AF in the 1950's painted up in silver livery. It was in a free-to-enter Thai AF museum in Bangkok.

Personally, I think silver is better than the pink PR Spitfires we had but I'll be sticking to the RAF's Standard Camo Pattern 'B' in earth and green for MK I's and II's and green and ocean grey for later Mk's, although Ido like themean looking grey'sof theFAA's Seafire's

Regards,
Hooton Park

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Post WW2, there were quite many Spitfires in silver paint. There are many pictures of silver MK.XVI and MK.24 fighters. One of the more accessible silver Spitfires is VN485 (Ex Royal Hong Kong Auxillary Air Force) that now resides in the Imperial War Museum, Duxford, UK.
http://www.airliners.net/search/phot...egsearch=VN485

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Ok, got the spitfire down over the weekend and started to work on it. Had to put the center scoop back on. It was broken off in the past and then glued back on with what looks like polyester resin only. I removed it again, cleaned all that off and epoxied it back on. After that cures up will feather in the edges with some filler.

Gear doors are going to need some attention and the fuse has been repaired and someone just sprayed primer over it all (including decals) so got some sanding to do there. Also the rudder hinge post is loose and needs some attention.

Going to put this 4.2 in the nose, spent the day making the appropriate spacer for it. Just need to mount it to firewall and proceed with radio installation.

Im going to wait till after I fly it before I paint it. It was crashed once before I got it and I believe it was tail heavy. From the damage that was done to it I believe it snapped on take off.

Just so I don't waste a lot of money and time in paint, going to make sure it will fly before I do that :)

Anyways, enjoy the pics and will keep yall updated as I work.

NOTE: I worked on this wearing my Brotherhood "T" shirt.

Jamie