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peter w h 12-08-2012 11:37 AM

Panel lines
 
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Hi guys,

Ok; I am no expert , this is not a tutorial and by no means is this the only way to do it, but I like it.


Peter.
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butlern 12-08-2012 02:42 PM

RE: Panel lines
 
Avenger is looking awesome, Peter!!! Keep up the fine work!

Leroy Gardner 12-08-2012 10:18 PM

RE: Panel lines
 
Thats intresting, it's hard to see how it's going to turn out at this stage. I'll look foward to seeing the finished productand your right there are several ways to do that.

Chris Nicastro 12-08-2012 11:01 PM

RE: Panel lines
 
Yes this technique does work well when combined with panel lins and rivets. It should be employed on the right panels and parts of a plane to replicate raised panels. Typically panels assembled on wing ribs are even in height.
At this stage if you striped a panel line with anything from pinstripe tape to fishing line you can build up the other panel edge like youve done so far. This will result in depressed looking panels that span a structure underneath. Then add rivets and the job will be impressive.
Cool work so far! Ive done this before on older scale helicopter master models and the effect is realistic.

mirce 12-09-2012 03:42 AM

RE: Panel lines
 
Text about panel lines and rivets, with a lot of pictures, you can find here...

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_11133554/tm.htm

Regards

Mirce

peter w h 12-09-2012 05:01 AM

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Fuselage in primer with rivets shows finished product.

Flush panel joints on front half of fuselage are done using same technique back to back leaving small .015" gap.
Joint is then pre-shaded using fine tip marker which will bleed through.

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peter w h 12-09-2012 05:06 AM

RE: Panel lines
 
Hi Noah,<div>
</div><div>Long time, wacha  working on?  You all moved in or is it painting time?</div><div>
</div><div>Peter
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glazier808 12-09-2012 07:04 AM

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Gonna look really sharp Peter!

Casey

foodstick 12-09-2012 08:24 AM

RE: Panel lines
 
Great stuff, I have never gone as far as rivets on an airplane.. but this sure makes it tempting...

Chad Veich 12-09-2012 10:32 AM

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I use the same method for overlapped panels and the results are worth the effort. I do use electrical tape instead of paper based masking tapes as the electrical tape will go around curves and does not disentegrate when wet sanding which I prefer to dry sanding. The hardest part of the process is often just figuring out in what order to proceed with application of the panels and then not accidentally building up on the wrong side!

G-Pete 12-09-2012 10:48 AM

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You are on the right track. I made not ony the panel lines also access panels/ fuel caps this way.

http://photos.imageevent.com/germanp...e/DSC03007.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/germanp...e/DSC03006.jpg

Pencil for rivet lines

http://photos.imageevent.com/germanp...e/DSC03039.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/germanp...e/DSC03271.jpg

peter w h 12-10-2012 03:26 AM

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Hey G-pete looking good.

Good Idea using filler for shaped non-functioning hatches.

For functioning doors and hatches I like to use aluminum (maintains it's shape).

For fixed (non operating hatches) I use .020" thick plastic.

Peter<br type="_moz" />

butlern 12-10-2012 04:35 AM

RE: Panel lines
 
Looking so nice, Peter!

Nothing happening down here... just working hard, waiting for the house to be finished. Hopefully we'll move just after the first of the year. Nice big work space in the garage awaits my Avenger and Tigercat (and I picked up a 35% Yak this fall).

I have a Ziroli Mustang that I'll probably start working on once we're all moved in and settled.

Can't wait to see the rest of the Avenger come together!

Noah

peter w h 12-10-2012 04:05 PM

RE: Panel lines
 
Thanks Noah.<div>
Hope you don't have to wait too long for the house, we had to wait two years (bought from a builder).
</div><div>I have seen some of your flights on you tube , you fly very well.</div><div>I will have to get you to come up here and teach me how to fly this beast ! :D</div><div></div><div>Peter</div><div></div><div></div>

Dash7ATP 12-13-2012 06:04 AM

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ORIGINAL: peter w h

Hi guys,

Ok; I am no expert , this is not a tutorial and by no means is this the only way to do it, but I like it.


Peter.
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Peter,

I'm interested in the BLAZEGLAZEyou used. Where did you find it? It may be under a different name here in the States.

Thanks,

Dash

glazier808 12-13-2012 06:11 AM

RE: Panel lines
 
Here ya go Dash... I love the stuff. One can is blue, not in the ad tho.
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalo...s/superfil.php

Casey

Dash7ATP 12-13-2012 07:39 AM

RE: Panel lines
 
I looked all over their web site and could not find the Blaze Glaze.. The link you gave me took me to a two part epoxy filler in two small plaztic jars.


Is the Blaze Glaze a laquer based filler? I may already have something similar.

Thanks,

Joe

peter w h 12-13-2012 08:03 AM

RE: Panel lines
 
<div>Most CARQUEST stores have it.
</div><div>Here it is, it is not laquer base it uses hardener like regular body filler.

Check under USC products, Blaze Glaze #26116</div><div></div><div></div>http://www.autobodytoolmart.com/usc-blaze-glaze-finishing-putty-p-19176.aspx<div></div><div>Peter
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glazier808 12-13-2012 08:16 AM

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Oops, different stuff I guess. Sorry bout that.

Dash7ATP 12-13-2012 09:45 AM

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That is it. Ididn't realize it was a two part product. And you say it sands very easily? I almost hesitate to use an epoxy or polyester product over balsa, as I ten d to sand down the surrounding balsa trying to sand down the filler. It should work well on a glassed surface.

Thanks,

Dash

glazier808 12-13-2012 10:53 AM

RE: Panel lines
 
Dash it sands very easy. It's all I use!!!

Casey

tailskid 12-13-2012 10:58 AM

RE: Panel lines
 
Where do you get yours?

Dash7ATP 12-13-2012 01:20 PM

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Very good,

Thanks,

Joe

pilotx 12-13-2012 06:59 PM

RE: Panel lines
 
I have had good results using Bondo brand professional finish glaze and also 3M Piranha Putty both are "2K"(2 part) products, used to build up raised panels both are easy sanding as long as mixed well with correct ratios

Question with the 1/64 tape method what is the correct type of tape i see CHARTPAK brand offer both a Crepe type or a Matte type with the matte stuff about +$2 USD difference in price. i guess I'm a cheap skate but if the cheap stuff will work, why not.




Dash7ATP 12-13-2012 07:33 PM

RE: Panel lines
 
I think I have always used the Crepe type.  The problem with other products or types, is you have to remove the tape after you have sprayed your primer. Tape that is too thin or weak will break and could be difficult to get out of your primer. 

Dash


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