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Old 12-08-2012, 11:37 AM
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Hi guys,

Ok; I am no expert , this is not a tutorial and by no means is this the only way to do it, but I like it.


Peter.

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Old 12-08-2012, 02:42 PM
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Avenger is looking awesome, Peter!!! Keep up the fine work!
Old 12-08-2012, 10:18 PM
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Thats intresting, it's hard to see how it's going to turn out at this stage. I'll look foward to seeing the finished productand your right there are several ways to do that.
Old 12-08-2012, 11:01 PM
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Yes this technique does work well when combined with panel lins and rivets. It should be employed on the right panels and parts of a plane to replicate raised panels. Typically panels assembled on wing ribs are even in height.
At this stage if you striped a panel line with anything from pinstripe tape to fishing line you can build up the other panel edge like youve done so far. This will result in depressed looking panels that span a structure underneath. Then add rivets and the job will be impressive.
Cool work so far! Ive done this before on older scale helicopter master models and the effect is realistic.
Old 12-09-2012, 03:42 AM
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Text about panel lines and rivets, with a lot of pictures, you can find here...

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_11133554/tm.htm

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Old 12-09-2012, 05:01 AM
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Fuselage in primer with rivets shows finished product.

Flush panel joints on front half of fuselage are done using same technique back to back leaving small .015" gap.
Joint is then pre-shaded using fine tip marker which will bleed through.

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Old 12-09-2012, 05:06 AM
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Hi Noah,

Long time, wacha  working on?  You all moved in or is it painting time?

Peter

Old 12-09-2012, 07:04 AM
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Gonna look really sharp Peter!

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Old 12-09-2012, 08:24 AM
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Great stuff, I have never gone as far as rivets on an airplane.. but this sure makes it tempting...
Old 12-09-2012, 10:32 AM
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I use the same method for overlapped panels and the results are worth the effort. I do use electrical tape instead of paper based masking tapes as the electrical tape will go around curves and does not disentegrate when wet sanding which I prefer to dry sanding. The hardest part of the process is often just figuring out in what order to proceed with application of the panels and then not accidentally building up on the wrong side!
Old 12-09-2012, 10:48 AM
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You are on the right track. I made not ony the panel lines also access panels/ fuel caps this way.





Pencil for rivet lines




Old 12-10-2012, 03:26 AM
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Hey G-pete looking good.

Good Idea using filler for shaped non-functioning hatches.

For functioning doors and hatches I like to use aluminum (maintains it's shape).

For fixed (non operating hatches) I use .020" thick plastic.

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Looking so nice, Peter!

Nothing happening down here... just working hard, waiting for the house to be finished. Hopefully we'll move just after the first of the year. Nice big work space in the garage awaits my Avenger and Tigercat (and I picked up a 35% Yak this fall).

I have a Ziroli Mustang that I'll probably start working on once we're all moved in and settled.

Can't wait to see the rest of the Avenger come together!

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Old 12-10-2012, 04:05 PM
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Thanks Noah.

Hope you don't have to wait too long for the house, we had to wait two years (bought from a builder).
I have seen some of your flights on you tube , you fly very well.
I will have to get you to come up here and teach me how to fly this beast !
Peter
Old 12-13-2012, 06:04 AM
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ORIGINAL: peter w h

Hi guys,

Ok; I am no expert , this is not a tutorial and by no means is this the only way to do it, but I like it.


Peter.

Peter,

I'm interested in the BLAZEGLAZEyou used. Where did you find it? It may be under a different name here in the States.

Thanks,

Dash
Old 12-13-2012, 06:11 AM
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Here ya go Dash... I love the stuff. One can is blue, not in the ad tho.
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalo...s/superfil.php

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Old 12-13-2012, 07:39 AM
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I looked all over their web site and could not find the Blaze Glaze.. The link you gave me took me to a two part epoxy filler in two small plaztic jars.


Is the Blaze Glaze a laquer based filler? I may already have something similar.

Thanks,

Joe
Old 12-13-2012, 08:03 AM
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Most CARQUEST stores have it.
Here it is, it is not laquer base it uses hardener like regular body filler.

Check under USC products, Blaze Glaze #26116
http://www.autobodytoolmart.com/usc-blaze-glaze-finishing-putty-p-19176.aspx
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Oops, different stuff I guess. Sorry bout that.
Old 12-13-2012, 09:45 AM
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That is it. Ididn't realize it was a two part product. And you say it sands very easily? I almost hesitate to use an epoxy or polyester product over balsa, as I ten d to sand down the surrounding balsa trying to sand down the filler. It should work well on a glassed surface.

Thanks,

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Dash it sands very easy. It's all I use!!!

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Where do you get yours?
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Very good,

Thanks,

Joe
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Default RE: Panel lines

I have had good results using Bondo brand professional finish glaze and also 3M Piranha Putty both are "2K"(2 part) products, used to build up raised panels both are easy sanding as long as mixed well with correct ratios

Question with the 1/64 tape method what is the correct type of tape i see CHARTPAK brand offer both a Crepe type or a Matte type with the matte stuff about +$2 USD difference in price. i guess I'm a cheap skate but if the cheap stuff will work, why not.



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I think I have always used the Crepe type.  The problem with other products or types, is you have to remove the tape after you have sprayed your primer. Tape that is too thin or weak will break and could be difficult to get out of your primer. 

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