hey guys i was wanting to get into warbird racing and i dont know what kit to get. my local club holds races and i have seen what they got but havnt had a chance to ask them what kit it is. so if you guys could help me out that would be awesome.

what scale? .12 .40 .60 1/4 scale, giant scale?

Come to the Sacramento Area Modelers field off Florin Road on Sunday the 7th of June.
Ithink all your questions can be answered there. http://www.sacramento-rc-flyers.org/...Flyer%2009.pdf
If you have a plane that you think meets the rules, http://www.sacramento-rc-flyers.org/...cing_Rules.pdf
come on out and race with us. Most planes powered as suggested by the manufacurer will be competitive in Bronze class and thats a great way to start.

Sounds like for your area you should heed Tommy Gun's advice.

yeah im actually apart of masm  but i cant go this weekend because of prior obligations i was going to go with my neighbor he is helping someone race the actual racer's name is Dave sullivan. but yeah i cant make it when is the next 1

Here is the schedule for the year at SAMs
http://www.sacramento-rc-flyers.org/comingevents.html

Dave is one of the Gold racers so your friend should be able to hook the two of you up and you can work it from there. Mather is very close to SAM's and you can usually find some W/B racers there on any given Saturday or Sunday as well. I know that many will be out on Saturday gearing up for the race this weekend. If you really are interested and can't make the Sunday event go out Saturday and I'm sure that you will get your fair share of Nitro fumes, Trash talk, and fast planes. It's a good group of guys and the all are willing to share with someone getting their feet wet.

Tommy Gun won't recommend a P-51 but about 50% of the guys are flying World Models P-51's. Easy plane to fly, easy plane to get, and fairly simple to "beef up" for racing. But there are a ton of other choices that fit the bill out there as well. SAM's also runs a .25 size race once a month.... The Outlaws. Same plane, same engine, shared fuel and the only thing seperating the pilots is skill and luck. We run on the 3rd Sunday of the month after 12:00pm when things at the field quite down. SAM's is a morning field where as Mather is more an afternoon field.

See you at the races............

Jimmy Skids

sweet thanks for the help i really appreciate it.

yeah just checked with the parents and we have something going on this whole weekend i might be able to go out there but i might not. so if you guys could kinda talk me throw this that would be awesome. i have read the rules  from SAM's website an i want to go in with a 46 engine so what plane would be good for that. i was lookin at the world models voodoo but i dont know if thats any good or. i would like something somewhat easy to fly and will get me goin as in racing. so please leave your input.

Is that motor a 2 stroke? If you can I would go for a four stroke at least in the range of an .90 or something. You don't want an underpowered Mustang thats for sure. From what I hear, at low speeds they can have a tendency to stall if not enough air goesacross the wing, regardless of the manufacturer. Another manufacturer that makes a great first-time Warbird is VQ. They are cheap, well made, and extremely forgiving. They make both B and D version Mustangs, along with some other unique airframes. I race both the Veltro and Hurricane and they fly great. In fact, my very first fuel plane was the Veltro and it handles like a trainer.

Check out their lineup at: www.vqwarbirds.com

Hope this helps

Jake</p>

ok well 4 stroke it is and thanks for the tips

how much does it cost to put a bronze class racer together

I will use my Veltro as an example.

Airframe: 160.00
Motor:  150.00-250.00 for a good used .91 size four stroke.  Shop/ask around.  You will be suprised with what you can find.
Servos:  15.00-20.00 a piece.  Mine only takes 4 since I have torque rods for the ailerons, one less servo. I use Hi-tec 425BB
Retract servo (if using retracts) 35.00
Battery pack. 20.00-25.00 Go with a 1500mah pack if you can.
And all the Misc crap I would add another 50.00.


I would guess a good ballpark number around 550.00 bucks give or take.  Unless you need a receiver, then account for another 60-70 bucks.

Some may say you could get away with less but that has never been the case for me.

What would i have to do to beef up lets say a world models p-51 40 size.

For now, build it stock and use a strong two stroke .46.
Then come out and get around the pylons with us in Bronze.
When you are comfortable, then buy a plane to mod for the stresses of faster classes.

k hey tommy dont u work at rc country?

and also for the future what would i have to do for the racing stresses. like what material would i use and where would i put it

If the wing area of the WM p-51 is 585 sq in what size/kind of motor would i put in it.

Spence,

You have got two differnent threads going on the same subject, I answered some questionsin the other thread, but there were a few other questions here. For the 585 wing area you can get away with larger than a 120 4 stroke.

Tom does work at RC country from time to time and is usually competitive in all the races. However, I must disagree with his (and others)assessments of just building the plane stock. My rule is don't get attached to the plane because it may not last, but build it like it will last for many years ofracing. I'vegot a ugly racer that I have had from more than 5 yearsthat would still holdit'sown in gold. She ain't pretty, but she sure is pretty fast.

I've built many WM P-51's/Dago Red's and it is by far one of the most forgiving flyers around. They are strong and don't need much, even for Gold speeds.

Skids

I fly out at Mather also and race with Dave.

I just started racing last year and it's going to be tough to beat the WM Mustang for a first racer.

We had a friend of ours come out with us this last race with a WM Mustang built stock with a OS 55AX and he won a race in Bronze if I remember right.

If you think Bronze is where you want to race (I have no idea of your piloting skills) I would recommend that setup.

I think it's extremely forgiving at low airspeed (landing) which is important because if you knock the gear out on landing your probably done for the day.

If you can find a good used YS91 that might also be a good choice.  The YS 110 is too fast for bronze IMO, it's almost too fast for silver running just 20/20 fuel.

Some would say a 91 is too fast for Silver as well (trust me, broke out many times in Silver with .91 and a WMMustang running 20/20). Like I said before, course management with the right combination of fuel and prop and you can move from bronze to silver to gold as pilot skill and confidence improve. If budget is an issue then the .55 is the way to go, but if there is a thought of moving up to Silver then I would personally opt for the 110.If you want a solid bronze plane without wanting to move up to Silver and have the money then go for the YS 63.

That's my 2 cents worth.

Jimmy Skids</p>

A 63 is pretty versatile and I know Sergio was running his Kyosho Spit with that motor in Silver and came in 2nd or 3rd in silver.  I would think the .91 is the best choice that you could use in all three classes.  I have one in my Dora and it runs fine for the Bronze the way I have it setup.  On the other extreme, in Gold Jason had that ME-109 last time and that thing did great in Gold, smaller airframe and different fuel mixture with the right prop kept that plane in contention the whole day.  For just one motor, rather than having a collection, I would go with the .91. 

Jake,
Sergio came in Second. He had a cut in one heat (I still think he got someone else's cut..... alas when you have two camo spitfires it makes it hard on the cages)...... If not hit with the cut he would of had first for the day. I was very proud of the way he flew.... his caller wasn't that bad either............
Jimmy Skids

p.s. Got two of those 91's NIB. Might be convinced to part with one. Got to thin out the stock of motors..............
I've got 12 YS engines currently in the stable.