ACE Seamaster
 

Nevermind.

RE: ACE Seamaster
 

LOL, I don't even see an "EDIT" in the post, what happened?

RE: ACE Seamaster
 

I surfed onto the ACE site and found the Seamaster 40 ARF. Thought it has been re-introduced. Then I realized it was just their archive section to remind us of the great planes they no longer offer. I edited out all my excited comments, but I can't just pull the thread.

ACE: If you're reading this: BRING IT BACK.

RE: ACE Seamaster
 

Reintroduce the kit and I will buy two.

RE: ACE Seamaster
 

Here is a link to the MaxfordUSA site where they have a seaplane called the Neptune. From other posts I've read, it is nearly identical to the Seamaster 40. I had a Seamaster a few years back and loved it. I may get a Neptune to run a brushless conversion on it . . . let's see if it shows up under the Christmas tree this year.

http://www.maxfordusa.com/lg-neptune-60-white.aspx

RE: ACE Seamaster
 

I have two of the Neptunes. Love em. Just can`t put wheels on them like the Seamaster

RE: ACE Seamaster
 

Yeah, I got a screaming deal on Ebay for a Neptune, $100 shipped for one NIB after crashing my Seamaster. I haven't built it yet, but it's sweet. LOTS of lightening holes. This is a much lighter airframe than my Seamaster was. It should fly great with nitro, and lend itself quite nicely to an electric conversion. They re engineered the water rudder as well, so now it doesn't have that annoying kick up rudder that failed every flight- it's built into the air rudder. Don't get me wrong, the Ace was cool, but I'm all for improvements. The wheels were unnecessary and the provisions added undesirable weight- it's a seaplane afterall, and most likely the reason you'd buy one is to fly off water exclusively. If you really needed to fly off land for some reason it can take off from grass.

RE: ACE Seamaster
 

Why put wheels on a seaplane?

Like Tommygun said, this plane is a blast to fly from grass! No wheels needed :D

RE: ACE Seamaster
 

Hey guys,

This is my Seamaster120, I was wondering if there is a full scale plane that the Sea Master is similar too? Mine will be done soon and I will be glassing the bottom of the fuse, covering the sides and top with solartex and painting. I will spray the wing with mimwax to seal then paint as well. I want to put rib lines in it but not sure how it will look.

Thanks,

Shane

RE: ACE Seamaster
 

No, if I'm not mistaken, the Seamaster was designed by Laddie Mikulasko (sp?) as a water version of his "Schoolmaster" or "Headmaster" design.

RE: ACE Seamaster
 

Hey Pit-Viper 1 Here is a pic of my SeaMaster 120. Powered by a magnum 180 4s.

RE: ACE Seamaster
 

Thanks, i will look into that..


goirish,

what difference did adding the fins to the tail make if any? Did you fly it prior without them to see? I will be using a RCGF20cc gas on here, not sure if it will be enough or not. How does it do with the magnum1.80?


Shane

RE: ACE Seamaster
 

Had a little adverse yaw. That corrected it. 180 was plenty of power. Not sure about the RCGF 20. I have their 26 on a 1/4 scale clipped wing cub and it is about right for scale like flying. Not sure it would pull it off the water with floats. (Boy that was a dumb statement) I know it wouldn't pull if off without the floats.:D:D:D

RE: ACE Seamaster
 

Hi,
I'm gonna start on a Seamaster 40 after the holidays. I'm considering glassing my hull as well, but I'm not sure if I want to do the whole thing or just the bottom. If I do the whole thing, I'll have to replace all the knockouts in the aft lightening holes(I have them). Do you guys think this will add to much weight?

Shane, what type of resin are you going to use for the glass cloth?

RE: ACE Seamaster
 

I used .5 glass with H20 poly on the bottom. Mine came in very tail heavy, Not sure I would glass the whole thing.

RE: ACE Seamaster
 

Yeah, I'm thinking I may be going something bigger. Probably 26 or 40cc. After sheeting the wing and glassing the fuse then paint I'm guessing I will be topping 20-21lbs. Running all the numbers looks good on paper :eek:, but I don't think I'll chance it. One thing though, it is water and the entire lake is your runway. So if I do have a prob I can set it down anywhere, right..:D

FentonFlyer,

I will be using this with the 3/4 oz. glass, [link]http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXCX58&P=ML[/link] My buddy is just finishing up a telemaster he did that way. He tried something different on the wing and like the Zap way better. I will only be glassing the bottom of the fuse and using covering on the sides and top. I will still be painting the whole thing even over the covering. I was originally going to glass the whole thing, that's why the wing was sheeted, but weight will be an issue.


Shane

RE: ACE Seamaster
 

How affective are the ailerons? I been thinking about redoing them but not sure. Going to use removable pin hinges just in case I want to change them later.


Shane

RE: ACE Seamaster
 

It seems to be pretty responsive with the stock ailerons. It is not like a 3D. Flys very scale.

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What size prop you guys using on it? I think it states up to an 18" prop if I remember correctly. I may go with a SuperTigre G-3250 on this. I know it will be enough power that way and they actually sip fuel like a gas engine does.

Shane

RE: ACE Seamaster
 

Ok I'm trying to decide on a motor. I haven't flown with anything larger than a Saito1.25 or OS.91FX. Always been in that range. These are what I'm looking at so far;

OS1.60 FX I know the reliability of these motors are great. Average fuel consumption.
BGX-1 3500 All I know is it has monster power and that's about it.
Supertiger G-2000/2300/3250 not sure which, still researching. They all have great fuel consumption and lots of power.
Moki 1.80 I've heard that they are a treat to run and have gobs of power and great fuel consumption.

I'm taking these into consideration due to the fact I will be glassing and expect it to come in tail heavy. Also with all the sheeting, solartex covering, and paint I should be close to 20lbs+. I may go gas but not sure what I will go with. Saito would be my first choice but the price and appetite for fuel are a little scary.

Any thoughts or suggestions would be great.

Shane

RE: ACE Seamaster
 

Just FYI: When (If) I ever get mine finished, I'm using a Moki 2.1

I asked a similar question to your a few years back and pretty much was told the BGX-1 is best used as a boat anchor. OS fans, don't want to get into an argument, just sayin' what I was told. The ST or Moki are better choices.

Don

RE: ACE Seamaster
 

The Schoolmaster and Headmaster were Ken Willard/Top Flite designs. Ken's Seamaster came out of Ace R/C.

Don

RE: ACE Seamaster
 

That's cool, I love OS motors as well but I know nothing about that motor. From what I read it seems pretty split as far as like and dislikes. I like what I've read about the Moki's more so far, a lot of guys run them with 0% nitro. I think it was called FAI fuel. And no more than 5% at higher altitudes is needed. I'm wondering if a 1.80 will be enough or the 2.10 would be better? I guess more power is always better, can control the power with my thumb right..:D

Shane

RE: ACE Seamaster
 

Thanks guys. Guess I'll build her up then decide how to finish.

RE: ACE Seamaster
 

I don't think that glassing is absolutely necessary, I am doing it for 2 reasons.

1. This is going to be a test bed for another larger scale job I will be doing on a Spitfire. Since this will be mostly on the bottom it won't really be noticeable, if you know what I mean. ;)

2. I know how I fly, so I have no doubt that there will come a time when I will want to fly it off snow. (maybe even grass) I've watched quite a few vids and I don't see any problems with it's design as far as the bottom of the fuse. The biggest thing I see is the tail section and the adverse yaw effect. Nothing a little sheeting and a good set of wires shouldn't be able to take care of.


Shane