as you all know about my savage, (crash_alot)... and i lost intrest with it, so i ggave up on it... but now i think it is better than petrol, im not sure... i think the savage looks better, and is def stronger...

does anyone else have a large scale and a savage?... let me know what you like and why.. many thanks, il be selling one of them...[:-]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3a-Al_84IK4

i've had a FG Marder.. sold it.. cos it's so sluggish.. kinda.. i wanted a fast and nimble Savage instead.. and the diff on the largescales really really needs to stop mashing up stones.. well you can fix it.. but hmm it sucks and i wanted 4wd instead of 2wd.. also less weight when moving them from your car to your house/garage.. easier to work on inside.. smells less and for a large scale to keep up with a nice nitro truck it needs alot of cash put into it..

and if you dont look for the most performance there is good engines thats really reliable and still runs on nitro and yes.. the STS aint one of them

lol...

i dcant help think the same, seem so sluggish, o.k with WOT but i kinda wanted the rear wheek fun i use to have with my little rush evo..haha, but no chance, maybe i run it to rich...hummm..

on looks the savage wins totaly!!, but its the tuning and re-fueling i hate, could i add my truck engine to the savage...haha!!, now that would be awsome!!, maybe i should make a thread and everyone can help me build it??...[X(]

Man there is a lot better 1/5 scale stuff out there,Have you looked at some of the others like the Hpi Baja Model sport makes some nice monster trucks

yea i had a browse but liked the look of this one.. i think il sell it 2 be honest, get something else.. not sure yet...very disappointed with the performace, whole roll cage smashed, rear shock towers broke, front shock cap busted, and pinion stripped...hummm.. not happy..lol

the savage atleast bounced about and kept going...

I'm looking to get a 1/5 onroad gasser... Unfortunately I can't anywhere near afford it right now.., but - though I'm obviously way more into offroad - lack of cool bash spots is driving me more and more onroad...

Here's a short clip of some gassers at a local track. This track is public, and in the middle of a BEAUTIFUL, huge, green park - 10 minutes from me....

http://s166.photobucket.com/albums/u...nt=Gassers.flv

Unfortunately, I was told that, for a good one, you have to reckon with €1200 to start - WITHOUT a body - which costs €130 itself... They had some pretty huge wrecks too - was impressed to see how tough they are... Anyway, gas has a certain appeal. Tank her up and run - for 30+ minutes!! These guys'll spin out on the other side of the track, and just have a smoke and chat to a friend while the thing's just sitting there running.. No prob at all...

And here's me running my little Kyosho last weekend.. Not thrilling to watch or anything, but was actually good fun...:

http://s166.photobucket.com/albums/u...hoRaceClip.flv

I just don't think there are any 1/5 gas trucks out there right now that really appeal to me.. I really do believe HPI will come out with a 1/5 scale Baja Savage.. Only question is when.. The idea just makes too much sense.....

I have had both, the 1/5th is way better, stronger, u tune once and that it, easy start, kill switch, cheaper fuel, and they can look just as good. Ya the savage is fast but u can make the 1/5th fast or faster then the savage. Yes it is hard to bash one cause of its size u need a lot of room, but even in the small areas i can kick ass. For the money that your gonna spend on the savage with parts, fuel, upgrades....the 1/5th is better in the end. If you sold the Savage you could get the 2speed kit, a nice ddm pipe, and a better engine. Ya if u sell the 1/5th u will have cash to make the savage strong, but the constant tuning to make it perfect.


To me the 1/5th is so much easier in the long run, just my .02

1/5th scale is poised to see a MAJOR reduction in pricing. I saw in a magazine that some companies are going to be releasing $500-$600 1/5th scales. Give it a couple of years and I'd be willing to be others will follow suit as well to remain competitive. 1/5th scale is going to be a big part of the future of this hobby and I can only see the prices falling on these things as they become cheaper to produce, etc.[8D]

The reason your not impressed is because you went the cheap route, and as we ALL know in this hobby, you get what you pay for. That truck you have is complete crap, you didn;t even bash it hard and it broke all kinds of parts! Buy yourself a FG MT and then tell me you like your Savage more, I know you won;t be saying it. I've had two savages a Savage 25, and a Savage SS 4.6, the FG MT blows it away! Off the line the savage is faster because of the 4WD grip it throws the power to the ground when a 2WD FG will spin but rest assured it'll catch up AND pass a savage easily! Have you seen my FG MT bash video yet? I bashed probly 10 times harder then you did in your video and I only striped a plastic spur gear. Sell that junk and spend the extra money to buy yourself a FG MT, you won't regret it. It is my favorite truck as far as fun factor goes. I absolutely love it!

look at what i found

Tech Spec: Manufacturer Powered Vehicle Scale Drive Chassis Engine Body Model Type
HobbyPro Petrol Buggy 1:6 2WD Mutilator 23cc 2-Stroke Pull-Start Buggy Assembled

This new 1/6th scale petrol buggy from HobbyPro sets a new standard for massive fun at a miniscule price!

This RTR model is fully finished and factory assembled, just requiring 2 stroke fuel to be up and running.

Features:

23cc Pull Start 2 Stroke Petrol Engine
3 channel FM Radio Control fully fitted with failsafe
4mm Aluminium Chassis
15kg High Torque Servo
450cc High Capacity Fuel Tank
Steel Diff Gear

Price: £349.00 In Stock

i like it.. but i wanted a truck, do you have a link dude?...

Well i don't know if you buy in euro or punds but

This is 600us or 301.668 pounds or 444.929Euro.
Its RTR Firehammer Mt the name brand of ur car, it has a nice airfilter, and X-Can
http://cgi.ebay.com/Duratrax-1-5-sca...QQcmdZViewItem
I was looking at that my self but for the price its a steal!

Or like jucd said, get the fg, but sell both savage and ur cheap 1/5th to get a dam good fg!

what does FG stands for, someone please tell me

Not totally sure, but I think it's like Ferdinand Gröschl - the German founder of the company.. First name might be off, but I recently asked what Gröschl was, and was told it was the founder of the company.. Not %100 sure though...

www.modelsport.co.uk and select your beast

If this wasn't the HPI forum then I wouldn't say anyting, but... the above statement depends on what you want out of an RC. It's obvious from your posts that you like the bigger trucks, and the size deal is a big factor for you when it comes to grading the various trucks, and that's perfectly fine. I secretly want an all aluminum show truck(shhhh!), so I understand wanting/expecting more from an RC than just maximum performance.... The thing is, just like with the CEN that we have discussed a few times, that FG won't ever hang with a built Savage in any way, shape, or form. Too much weight and too many build limitations. You compare these things to your Savage often, but you had an older SS kit and from your posts I'm guessing it was relatively stock or had mismatched performance parts on it. Give me the same amount of money that you have in that FG and I'll build a Savage that would eat it for lunch.

I'd LOVE to have a 1:5 truck, but I certainly wouldn't buy one with the intentions of out performing a proper nitro truck. The only real advantages to the gassers is the more scale appearance, the ease of use, and the sheer size.

You can get modified engines with increased displacement for those things and they will flat out rip with the right muffler and gearing. 40+mph easy. That puts these heavy and large 1/5ths right there smack dab at modified nitro monster truck speeds. You have to admit that that's pretty impressive.[8D]

No, not really.. What WOULD be impressive is a 1/5 scale HPI Baja Savage that could jump like one too...

I say we start a petition...

The idea just makes too much sense...

I hear ya, but keep in mind how large a 1/5th-1/4 scale is....not to mention how heavy they are. Ever seen one up close? Ever pick one up? They're pretty frickin big and pretty frickin heavy. Magazine pictures can't show scale that well so most people can't grasp their size and weight until they actually see and feel one. Anyways, with enough speed, you could probably air one out real good, but as for doing backflips and all that other circus stuff some guys do with their Savages, well, that's a 1/8th scale thing....for now at least until someone figures out how to defy physics with one.

I've never run with an FG, but I have experience running around/against a 5" extended 4wd Savage with a three speed tansmission and a 32cc engine, as well as a Duratrax Firehammer buggy with some sort of 26cc(I think) upgraded engine... they are both relatively slow when compared to a hot 1:8, no contest. Neither of those vehicles can jump worth a darn either. I've seen the FGs in vids, and they don't look much different.

I'm honestly not talking junk about them here, I would really really really enjoy a HPI Baja based MT or an FG. I guess I just see them in a different light than you guys do when it comes to their capabilities.

Thats the thing right there, Your a nitro guy, once you own a 1/5th ad put 2-3 grand into one then u look at nitros like???? I have done 1 or 2 back flipes with my firehammer mt, it took alittle room and a soccar feil to land it in but it can be done, u can sup up a gas mt to got 60-70+, u get a 2speed kit for a stock truck ur in the 50-60's so its not that far off.

There was a gas bug at the track last weekend, and though TOTALLY stupid looking, it WAS fast as hell.. Faster than my Sav(through thickish grass anyway.. Maybe woulda' taken him on a paved straight...) Don't know what he had in it...

The only 1/5 that's on the market right now i'd even CONSIDER is the HPI 5B. I honestly just think the other ones are too ugly to own...

I just think it's natural though for a 1/5 4wd HPI truck to happen...it's fundamentally wrong for HPI to get into the 1/5 class and NEVER bring out a 4wd MT[&:]

I can't bring myself to lay down the initial investment for the Baja, though...that's a huge chunk of cash, better spent on rebuilding this old Ford 360, transmission, AND transfer case i've got layin around...

hi

large scale and 8th scale are really different worlds. you can't drive an fg mt like a savage and the other way round. both is lots of fun to me. just remember that you can drive about 40min with one tank with a lare scale model. i think such trucks are not substitutes but complements. have both and use them accordingly to the situation you are in. then all this comparison chitchat is not interesting anymore.

bye
rhylsadar

chronic you built my tvps and all you lot know of my savage...CRASH_ALOT???...lol

im going to sell one, i dont know what yet but one has to go!, chronic i remeber at one point you mentioned my truck was ecellent, so i dont know if you are confussing someone else with me?..

i was under the understanding aswell 1/5 where alot easier to run, maintain and tune, well the main factory i have seen is to save a little on fuel, but make up in weight, cost of parts, durability and starting price.