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Old 11-05-2006, 07:29 PM
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dunno if you guys have seen this yet.



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Length: 55 in (1397mm)
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Old 11-05-2006, 07:48 PM
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Beautiful boat!

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Yes, a good looking boat. I saw this boat up close and personal and I have to say what a PO*. the glass work is poor, the hull to deck joint spotty, the rudder link rod rubs the transom hole, the pipe has a spring on it in an attempt to center it in the hole thru the transom and fails miserably, the rudder is definately sub-standard, it has a chunk of styrofoam in the bow for floatation, the stringers and bulkheads are only epoxied to the hull....no glass at all and over all just looks cheap. For $1100 you could have a much nicer boat elsewhere.
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it looks good, but there will most likely be the same "proboat flaws"
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Yes, a good looking boat. I saw this boat up close and personal and I have to say what a PO*. the glass work is poor, the hull to deck joint spotty, the rudder link rod rubs the transom hole, the pipe has a spring on it in an attempt to center it in the hole thru the transom and fails miserably, the rudder is definately sub-standard, it has a chunk of styrofoam in the bow for floatation, the stringers and bulkheads are only epoxied to the hull....no glass at all and over all just looks cheap. For $1100 you could have a much nicer boat elsewhere.
I guess all Pro Boat boats suck according to you.
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Just giving my opinion on that boat, I didn't say all Proboats suck since I have not seen all Probats up close
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German Muscle,

Flabum knows a bit about boats. He's just painfully honest thats all. I can appreciate that.

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If the hardware used is the same as "All" other Proboat products, I'd forget about spending $1100.00 on it. It's too bad that whobbies doesn't make a cat...Ken.
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I second that it is a shame that warehouse hobbies dont make one maybe we need to push him a little
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There are plenty of good Cats out there. Yes it would be nice to see a WHH cat, but for now, I think a Blast Cat is a great all arond hull. You can get a new one for $300 and I bet you could easily get everything else needed to put it together for the remaining $800. But that's not the only choice.
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it uses the same hardware as the SW55SS. All of the pro boat hulls are made the same way which is apparently junk. All of their boats have a large peice of styrofoam on the inside of the deck.
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it uses the same hardware as the SW55SS. All of the pro boat hulls are made the same way which is apparently junk. All of their boats have a large peice of styrofoam on the inside of the deck.

I have heard they use the same hardware on alot of their stuff and it breaks. By now you would think they would have changed it. The styrofoam chunk is unsightly and prone to melt with gasoline, you would think they would at least seal it with a tin layer of glass or use 2 part foam.
The thing that really gets me about the boat though is the stringers...... there is not one stitch of glass holding them in, only an epoxy putty. After some pounding with tha boat or maybe just a few hard launches, that stringer setup will be hurting.

But.....it is a pretty boat on the outside......sort of like marrying the home comming queen just to find out she's a druggy.
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it uses the same hardware as the SW55SS. All of the pro boat hulls are made the same way which is apparently junk. All of their boats have a large peice of styrofoam on the inside of the deck.

I have heard they use the same hardware on alot of their stuff and it breaks. By now you would think they would have changed it. The styrofoam chunk is unsightly and prone to melt with gasoline, you would think they would at least seal it with a tin layer of glass or use 2 part foam.
The thing that really gets me about the boat though is the stringers...... there is not one stitch of glass holding them in, only an epoxy putty. After some pounding with tha boat or maybe just a few hard launches, that stringer setup will be hurting.

But.....it is a pretty boat on the outside......sort of like marrying the home comming queen just to find out she's a druggy.
ive seen and ran a extensively modified SW55SS. The hardware didnt break, infact the only drawback was constantly keeping both rudders straight. In the same boat there was no problems with the styrofoam melting, i dunno how gas can get to it honestly. the one i saw and ran had a 4 foot pool noodle stuffed in it for extra flotation. All Pro boats are like that with the stringers. they are just epoxied in there. From the boats ive seen there is no issue. the SW55SS had a full mod zen 26 and the hull construction never showed any problems. Im not saying this is a great way to do it. Fiberglassing them in is much better but if it holds up so be it. This is also how the hull in my PB SW36 is. It as well has a highly modified engine in it and ive seen zero problems. Like i said glassing it in would be much better but these are entry level boats that are RTR. Ive learned this as well as my friend because weve already maxed out the SW55SS and SW36 hull to its max.
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Ok
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ORIGINAL: German Muscle

ORIGINAL: Flabum


ORIGINAL: German Muscle

it uses the same hardware as the SW55SS. All of the pro boat hulls are made the same way which is apparently junk. All of their boats have a large peice of styrofoam on the inside of the deck.

I have heard they use the same hardware on alot of their stuff and it breaks. By now you would think they would have changed it. The styrofoam chunk is unsightly and prone to melt with gasoline, you would think they would at least seal it with a tin layer of glass or use 2 part foam.
The thing that really gets me about the boat though is the stringers...... there is not one stitch of glass holding them in, only an epoxy putty. After some pounding with tha boat or maybe just a few hard launches, that stringer setup will be hurting.

But.....it is a pretty boat on the outside......sort of like marrying the home comming queen just to find out she's a druggy.
ive seen and ran a extensively modified SW55SS. The hardware didnt break, infact the only drawback was constantly keeping both rudders straight. In the same boat there was no problems with the styrofoam melting, i dunno how gas can get to it honestly. the one i saw and ran had a 4 foot pool noodle stuffed in it for extra flotation. All Pro boats are like that with the stringers. they are just epoxied in there. From the boats ive seen there is no issue. the SW55SS had a full mod zen 26 and the hull construction never showed any problems. Im not saying this is a great way to do it. Fiberglassing them in is much better but if it holds up so be it. This is also how the hull in my PB SW36 is. It as well has a highly modified engine in it and ive seen zero problems. Like i said glassing it in would be much better but these are entry level boats that are RTR. Ive learned this as well as my friend because weve already maxed out the SW55SS and SW36 hull to its max.
Well what do you guy's think about this company and it's boats such as this one. I was gonna get the pro boat shockwave 55 but because of your comments I'am now having seconds thoughts on buying it. This will be a first boat for me and by the way German Muscle how fast was your friend's shockwave 55 before the modified Zen and after. Thanks

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Well, I guess the point is that for $1100 you can do a bunch better than this new Pro Boat for an "entry level" boat. The real shame is that someone will go to the LHS and see this big nice looking boat and think that for $1100 they are really getting something nice, and what they are getting is sub par by the standards of the hobby.
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ORIGINAL: German Muscle

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ORIGINAL: German Muscle

it uses the same hardware as the SW55SS. All of the pro boat hulls are made the same way which is apparently junk. All of their boats have a large peice of styrofoam on the inside of the deck.

I have heard they use the same hardware on alot of their stuff and it breaks. By now you would think they would have changed it. The styrofoam chunk is unsightly and prone to melt with gasoline, you would think they would at least seal it with a tin layer of glass or use 2 part foam.
The thing that really gets me about the boat though is the stringers...... there is not one stitch of glass holding them in, only an epoxy putty. After some pounding with tha boat or maybe just a few hard launches, that stringer setup will be hurting.

But.....it is a pretty boat on the outside......sort of like marrying the home comming queen just to find out she's a druggy.
ive seen and ran a extensively modified SW55SS. The hardware didnt break, infact the only drawback was constantly keeping both rudders straight. In the same boat there was no problems with the styrofoam melting, i dunno how gas can get to it honestly. the one i saw and ran had a 4 foot pool noodle stuffed in it for extra flotation. All Pro boats are like that with the stringers. they are just epoxied in there. From the boats ive seen there is no issue. the SW55SS had a full mod zen 26 and the hull construction never showed any problems. Im not saying this is a great way to do it. Fiberglassing them in is much better but if it holds up so be it. This is also how the hull in my PB SW36 is. It as well has a highly modified engine in it and ive seen zero problems. Like i said glassing it in would be much better but these are entry level boats that are RTR. Ive learned this as well as my friend because weve already maxed out the SW55SS and SW36 hull to its max.
Well what do you guy's think about this company and it's boats such as this one. I was gonna get the pro boat shockwave 55 but because of your comments I'am now having seconds thoughts on buying it. This will be a first boat for me and by the way German Muscle how fast was your friend's shockwave 55 before the modified Zen and after. Thanks

http://www.radiocontrol-2005.com/missbud26cc.htm
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i think the turning on the hydro might suffer, it doesent have a turn fin, so might have trouble staying in a tight turn.....
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You can tell by the slant plug on the engine that it's "low budget" minded. one more thing, what's with all the GIANT quotes? Ken.
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No comment have never seen the boat in person. I do agree with Saleens about the absence of a turn fin. Also, that hatch hold-down doesn't look too secure....those are cabinet latches.
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WHAT SHOULD I BE EXTRA CAREFUL FOR ON A PRO BOAT BJ26
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WHAT SHOULD I BE EXTRA CAREFUL FOR ON A PRO BOAT BJ26
Can you start a new thread for this....also, that is a Nitro boat, wrong forum.

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