Birth of a Dreamin' CS: How to build a SEAMLESS fiberglass boat hull
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RE: Birth of a Dreamin' CS: How it's made
Great info Scott, Are you going to take this thread rite to the water with fitout and placement of parts???. Once again great thread.
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After the resins have cured, you can remove the tape. Notice how tight the seams are. Any gaps that may have existed have been filled with resin from the work done inside the hull while assembling.
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Some prelinary sanding of the edges to give the hull a slightly softer look. Using my palm sander and 8o grit I round the edges slightly. As you do this you will remove all the gelcoat from that corner exposing raw resin and/or fiberglass. That's ok because one of the reasons I add all that resin mixture inside the seam is to thicken up the corner so I can round off these edges without risk of weakening the joint.
Next steps will be paint preparation and paint scheme design. Still up in the air on final color selection, red? I mean BRIGHT red? Red/white somehow? I dunno[&:] Any suggestions?
Next steps will be paint preparation and paint scheme design. Still up in the air on final color selection, red? I mean BRIGHT red? Red/white somehow? I dunno[&:] Any suggestions?
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RE: Birth of a Dreamin' CS: How it's made
great thread, but i have 1 question. why the gel coat if your going to paint it anyhow? hopefully you didn't address this already near the beginning. is a epoxy/glass mat finish rough, or something?
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RE: Birth of a Dreamin' CS: How it's made
Good question. Gel coat no matter if your going to paint or not or how good of a fiberglass person you are. When you lay the glass, there are always tiny air bubbles generated, ones that you cannot see. If I were to leave out the gelcoat, I could almost guarantee I would have a hull that looks like micro swiss cheese and would have lots more body work to do. The gelcoat covers my mold perfectly any tiny air bubbles created from working the glass would be essentially covered up by the gelcoat and never seen. Hope that make sence.
By the way, most of the micro little bubbles are created by a chemical reaction from the curing process. Some people refer to it as "gassing out". So we gelcoat everything. Some gets sanded away and scuffed for the first stages of paint prep.
By the way, most of the micro little bubbles are created by a chemical reaction from the curing process. Some people refer to it as "gassing out". So we gelcoat everything. Some gets sanded away and scuffed for the first stages of paint prep.
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For paint give it a House Of Kolor ,well color.To paint it white or red or blue you might as well of gelled it that color.You seam to be a great painter so might as well candy it up.I love greens but there not for every one.I had a 78 bubble deck painted HOK tangilo orange,lime time green and hot pink people were amazed at the colors and they looked sick on the water.
Orange and blue seam to be the new pink and grey so I say HOK candy Orange and blue they have plenty of thoes two colors to choose from oh and an offset color stripe to devide them..
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Orange and blue seam to be the new pink and grey so I say HOK candy Orange and blue they have plenty of thoes two colors to choose from oh and an offset color stripe to devide them..
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Scot 2 questions.
1. Why did you not drill the holes for the engine mounts before set the rails? Is it now more difficult to drill them?
2. More a suggestion than a question. At the back where the rails meet the transom you glass it closed. When we mount rails we notch the bottom at a 45 degree to form a venting hole for any water.
Great build. Great thread. Now if we can just find a cost effective means of getting boats to RSA.
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1. Why did you not drill the holes for the engine mounts before set the rails? Is it now more difficult to drill them?
2. More a suggestion than a question. At the back where the rails meet the transom you glass it closed. When we mount rails we notch the bottom at a 45 degree to form a venting hole for any water.
Great build. Great thread. Now if we can just find a cost effective means of getting boats to RSA.
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Scot 2 questions.
1. Why did you not drill the holes for the engine mounts before set the rails? Is it now more difficult to drill them?
2. More a suggestion than a question. At the back where the rails meet the transom you glass it closed. When we mount rails we notch the bottom at a 45 degree to form a venting hole for any water.
Great build. Great thread. Now if we can just find a cost effective means of getting boats to RSA.
Cobus
Scot 2 questions.
1. Why did you not drill the holes for the engine mounts before set the rails? Is it now more difficult to drill them?
2. More a suggestion than a question. At the back where the rails meet the transom you glass it closed. When we mount rails we notch the bottom at a 45 degree to form a venting hole for any water.
Great build. Great thread. Now if we can just find a cost effective means of getting boats to RSA.
Cobus
1. Still up in the air whether to clutch or not so not exactly sure where they will be. As far as drilling I always use my 90 degre angle drill with a short stubby bit. Very accurate and the drill fits easily between the rails.
2. Thank you for bring that up. I haven't notched anything yet in my builds however now that you mentioned it I definately will do that for now on! Suppose I could drill a corner hole in the same manner as the mounts will be drilled. Thanks for the tip!
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RE: Birth of a Dreamin' CS: How it's made
After initially smoothing out the jointed seam with 100 grit and a palm sander, subsequent sandings of 180 and 220 were then done.
Already I can see my "voids" where I had to sand through the gelcoat. Some were filled in with resin already, and reshaped.
A light dusting of automotive primer will show areas that still need work easier. Looking closely, can you see the little divots in the corners? If these were left unaddressed, than it would definately show through the paint job.
Next some spot putty will be used to fill these little voids. Putty, primer, sand...putty, primer, sand...putty, primer, sand should definately make this absolutely perfect without any flaws or divots showing. No hurrying this part! If anybody has ever painted cars, bikes, or whatever, a good painter knows that a good paint job is the result of 90% good preparation, 10% spray skills....Isn't that right misshydro?
What seam in the transom??
Already I can see my "voids" where I had to sand through the gelcoat. Some were filled in with resin already, and reshaped.
A light dusting of automotive primer will show areas that still need work easier. Looking closely, can you see the little divots in the corners? If these were left unaddressed, than it would definately show through the paint job.
Next some spot putty will be used to fill these little voids. Putty, primer, sand...putty, primer, sand...putty, primer, sand should definately make this absolutely perfect without any flaws or divots showing. No hurrying this part! If anybody has ever painted cars, bikes, or whatever, a good painter knows that a good paint job is the result of 90% good preparation, 10% spray skills....Isn't that right misshydro?
What seam in the transom??
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RE: Birth of a Dreamin' CS: How it's made
i'm curious as how your hull compares to a aeromarine XXX? i think it is my next hull. although i mite try a zip kit easy vee, and install the fuji in it when i get my zen for my rio.
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Not sure of the size difference, length or width. I know the XXX is more scale like for sure. I may stop in my Aeromarine this week for a few parts and take some mental notes when I'm there.
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Great thread bro. Do you thin your gelcoat with styrene or acetone? I want to use acetone but I have had good luck with styrene so far. Again, great thread and you do very nice work.
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Thank you. I use both actually depending what comes out of the cabinet easier. Personally I prefer acetone. It evaporates faster and I've never had an issue in using it. Everybody has their own opinion of which to use and the reasons behind it. Based on my personal experience, I definately prefer acetone. Whichever you use, the end result is usually the same when used correctly.
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a guy in my club has a XXX, and it flies. all that's in the water is the prop. i'll take my camera tomorrow, and try to get a pic of it up on it's prop. tell them to send me one FREE as a inspection hull. lol i bet that will float. lol
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Very Nice informative postings
Great attention to detail
Is this hull being built for anyone .. LOL
Paint it a Lime Green top and a white bottom with the Winshield painted like in your other pics and consider it sold !!! But I would like to do my own hardware... More for racing
Tom H.
Great attention to detail
Is this hull being built for anyone .. LOL
Paint it a Lime Green top and a white bottom with the Winshield painted like in your other pics and consider it sold !!! But I would like to do my own hardware... More for racing
Tom H.
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Very Nice informative postings
Great attention to detail
Is this hull being built for anyone .. LOL
Paint it a Lime Green top and a white bottom with the Winshield painted like in your other pics and consider it sold !!! But I would like to do my own hardware... More for racing
Tom H.
Very Nice informative postings
Great attention to detail
Is this hull being built for anyone .. LOL
Paint it a Lime Green top and a white bottom with the Winshield painted like in your other pics and consider it sold !!! But I would like to do my own hardware... More for racing
Tom H.
This is MY hull and you can't have it! [sm=punching.gif]LOL. Since the start of building, I have yet to keep one for myself for any length of time before it ends up with a new home. I'm building this one with all the goodies strictly for myself for photo opportunities and videos for my web site hopefully soon to be up. May sell her later, who knows.
RCU has strict policys about ads on the forums and the same rules apply to moderators as well . Can't discuss selling or pricing here. PM me.
This thread is not intended to market my boat but rather as an informative "how-to" or "how it's done" type thread. Perhaps it will spark somebody to attempt the same type project using the information found here. There are several members getting into building their own boats from fiberglass here and getting good results. Doing fiberglass work is fairly easy once you get a few skills down, just need to give it a try!
By the way, here are a few ideas for a paint job this DCS project may end up with for paint. What do you think?
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RE: Birth of a Dreamin' CS: How it's made
Like I said , Very informative post !!
I like the first pic for the paintjob...Just my Opinion..
I'll wait til you get your website up and running before bothering you..
Thanx for your time..
Keep up the good work on this post..
Tom H .
I like the first pic for the paintjob...Just my Opinion..
I'll wait til you get your website up and running before bothering you..
Thanx for your time..
Keep up the good work on this post..
Tom H .
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Like I said , Very informative post !!
I like the first pic for the paintjob...Just my Opinion..
I'll wait til you get your website up and running before bothering you..
Thanx for your time..
Keep up the good work on this post..
Tom H .
Like I said , Very informative post !!
I like the first pic for the paintjob...Just my Opinion..
I'll wait til you get your website up and running before bothering you..
Thanx for your time..
Keep up the good work on this post..
Tom H .
By the way, the 1'st and 3'rd picture are the same boat, just forgot what order I put them in the post.
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Please do not put tribal graphics on it [:'(] want to see some great paint work try to find something painted by Bill B of Karazy Kolors master of classy paint jobs in you guessed it HOK paint.He is a boat painter.
Mabey use the same color but several shades of it.
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Mabey use the same color but several shades of it.
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This is a great threat scott very educational[sm=thumbup.gif]
is that a guide coat you have put over the hull ( figure 1) to bring out any imperfections??
is that a guide coat you have put over the hull ( figure 1) to bring out any imperfections??