Central NEW YORK boaters
11-01-2012, 10:46 AM
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RE: Central NEW YORK boaters
ORIGINAL: Billk44
You really want to use MAS or West epoxy inside also. These will flow into the nooks and crannies and strengthen the overall. This especially true for rigger tubs. I even use carbon veil in the engine compartment to minimize any chance of separation.
You really want to use MAS or West epoxy inside also. These will flow into the nooks and crannies and strengthen the overall. This especially true for rigger tubs. I even use carbon veil in the engine compartment to minimize any chance of separation.
thanks, Rick
11-01-2012, 10:49 AM
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I am not a pro on Thunderboats but I do not think it needs that kind of reinforcement. However, on sport hydro I do it just to keep it rigid. They do take a pounding. I know weight becomes an issue at times and especially in nitro hulls. Not all folks do this but I do. If you want an example of it, look at Neil's 67 rigger. I did the boat and the few extra ounces do not affect the speed. Ask anyone that saw this run..............
11-01-2012, 12:03 PM
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check out the bullitts...http://s1151.photobucket.com/albums/...hallwoodworks/ first time.. dont know if it will work
Rick
11-01-2012, 12:06 PM
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Scott Parker is starting work on the pond tomorrow! He said he'll be digging on Saturday and all next week.
It's going to be a cold weekend! I'll probably still try to make it to the island. If anyone else feels like it, let me know.
It's going to be a cold weekend! I'll probably still try to make it to the island. If anyone else feels like it, let me know.
11-01-2012, 12:10 PM
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RE: Central NEW YORK boaters
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check out the bullitts...http://s1151.photobucket.com/albums/...hallwoodworks/ first time.. dont know if it will work
check out the bullitts...http://s1151.photobucket.com/albums/...hallwoodworks/ first time.. dont know if it will work
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11-01-2012, 12:11 PM
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check out the bullitts...http://s1151.photobucket.com/albums/...hallwoodworks/ first time.. dont know if it will work
check out the bullitts...http://s1151.photobucket.com/albums/...hallwoodworks/ first time.. dont know if it will work
Rick
11-01-2012, 12:19 PM
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The Bullitts are really nice running Thunderboats. You should have a blast with it.
The Bullitts are really nice running Thunderboats. You should have a blast with it.
11-01-2012, 12:43 PM
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Rick...I checked out the 'Bullits' photos. AWESOME!!! I give you a lot of credit for digging into a wooden build (2 no less) like you are. I'm no expert in building, but if it were me going through all this work, I would consider laying some carbon fiber cloth along the stringers in the area of the engine mounts as well as at the bulkheads where they meet the decking. Now, my experience is only with my fiberglass Thunderboat and Gas Sport Hydro hulls (both Aeromarine), but when these boats blow off they come down like a ton of bricks. It seems like the reinforcing around the cowl opening often separates first and then the decking is the next thing to crack. Maybe a wood hull is inherently stronger. (That has always been my thought on riggers). Maybe Tom can give you his opinion on using CF in the build. Roger C.
11-01-2012, 12:56 PM
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Rick...I checked out the 'Bullits' photos. AWESOME!!! I give you a lot of credit for digging into a wooden build (2 no less) like you are. I'm no expert in building, but if it were me going through all this work, I would consider laying some carbon fiber cloth along the stringers in the area of the engine mounts as well as at the bulkheads where they meet the decking. Now, my experience is only with my fiberglass Thunderboat and Gas Sport Hydro hulls (both Aeromarine), but when these boats blow off they come down like a ton of bricks. It seems like the reinforcing around the cowl opening often separates first and then the decking is the next thing to crack. Maybe a wood hull is inherently stronger. (That has always been my thought on riggers). Maybe Tom can give you his opinion on using CF in the build. Roger C.
Rick...I checked out the 'Bullits' photos. AWESOME!!! I give you a lot of credit for digging into a wooden build (2 no less) like you are. I'm no expert in building, but if it were me going through all this work, I would consider laying some carbon fiber cloth along the stringers in the area of the engine mounts as well as at the bulkheads where they meet the decking. Now, my experience is only with my fiberglass Thunderboat and Gas Sport Hydro hulls (both Aeromarine), but when these boats blow off they come down like a ton of bricks. It seems like the reinforcing around the cowl opening often separates first and then the decking is the next thing to crack. Maybe a wood hull is inherently stronger. (That has always been my thought on riggers). Maybe Tom can give you his opinion on using CF in the build. Roger C.
11-01-2012, 02:04 PM
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RE: Central NEW YORK boaters
They don't need any added reinforcement at all. A little cloth here and there won't hurt though.
The hulls come in very light (maybe 16 pounds RTR) so weight isn't an issue.
The only areas that I have had any crash damage from are the transom and cowling.
Make sure that the cowling CAN NOT come off the boat in a blow over.
As for the transom, when driving over other, slower boats, the transom can separate from the upper and lower sheeting.
A little cloth and epoxy would cure that.
The main thing to do is build the tail as light as possible for balance. Almost all Bullitts need nose weight.
Mount the engine as far forward as the cowling will allow (spark plug hits if too far forward).
Don't be too concerned about overall weight as some very competitive T Boats are 24+ pounds...
Build looks awesome Rick!
Joe
The hulls come in very light (maybe 16 pounds RTR) so weight isn't an issue.
The only areas that I have had any crash damage from are the transom and cowling.
Make sure that the cowling CAN NOT come off the boat in a blow over.
As for the transom, when driving over other, slower boats, the transom can separate from the upper and lower sheeting.
A little cloth and epoxy would cure that.
The main thing to do is build the tail as light as possible for balance. Almost all Bullitts need nose weight.
Mount the engine as far forward as the cowling will allow (spark plug hits if too far forward).
Don't be too concerned about overall weight as some very competitive T Boats are 24+ pounds...
Build looks awesome Rick!
Joe
11-01-2012, 02:53 PM
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RE: Central NEW YORK boaters
ORIGINAL: Joe Petro
They don't need any added reinforcement at all. A little cloth here and there won't hurt though.
The hulls come in very light (maybe 16 pounds RTR) so weight isn't an issue.
The only areas that I have had any crash damage from are the transom and cowling.
Make sure that the cowling CAN NOT come off the boat in a blow over.
As for the transom, when driving over other, slower boats, the transom can separate from the upper and lower sheeting.
A little cloth and epoxy would cure that.
The main thing to do is build the tail as light as possible for balance. Almost all Bullitts need nose weight.
Mount the engine as far forward as the cowling will allow (spark plug hits if too far forward).
Don't be too concerned about overall weight as some very competitive T Boats are 24+ pounds...
Build looks awesome Rick!
Joe
They don't need any added reinforcement at all. A little cloth here and there won't hurt though.
The hulls come in very light (maybe 16 pounds RTR) so weight isn't an issue.
The only areas that I have had any crash damage from are the transom and cowling.
Make sure that the cowling CAN NOT come off the boat in a blow over.
As for the transom, when driving over other, slower boats, the transom can separate from the upper and lower sheeting.
A little cloth and epoxy would cure that.
The main thing to do is build the tail as light as possible for balance. Almost all Bullitts need nose weight.
Mount the engine as far forward as the cowling will allow (spark plug hits if too far forward).
Don't be too concerned about overall weight as some very competitive T Boats are 24+ pounds...
Build looks awesome Rick!
Joe
11-01-2012, 03:27 PM
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Rare earth magnet work really well and a very clean look. Thunderboat are really good looking boats. Don't run over anyone and don't run up on shore. Make certain the engine will shutdown when you need to. Most of all, practice your driving and control. The faster you go, the faster things pop up.
11-01-2012, 03:56 PM
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I have to agree with Joe, a properly built boat doesn't need extra strengthening in the engine bay. As for the transom, you could add some glue blocks along the edges to increase the strength in this area.
Getting back to you question on Z-Poxy, I'll never use it again. I found it to be brittle and not fuel proof when used in a sport 20 last year. I was able to remove all of it with a blunt edged metal bladed spreader and a Monokote heat gun
Getting back to you question on Z-Poxy, I'll never use it again. I found it to be brittle and not fuel proof when used in a sport 20 last year. I was able to remove all of it with a blunt edged metal bladed spreader and a Monokote heat gun
11-01-2012, 04:16 PM
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RE: Central NEW YORK boaters
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You're doing a very nice job on your Bullitt Rick. Regarding weight, my boat weighs 18.5 pounds and it is competative.
Dick T.
You're doing a very nice job on your Bullitt Rick. Regarding weight, my boat weighs 18.5 pounds and it is competative.
Dick T.
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11-01-2012, 05:17 PM
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I have to agree with Joe, a properly built boat doesn't need extra strengthening in the engine bay. As for the transom, you could add some glue blocks along the edges to increase the strength in this area.
Getting back to you question on Z-Poxy, I'll never use it again. I found it to be brittle and not fuel proof when used in a sport 20 last year. I was able to remove all of it with a blunt edged metal bladed spreader and a Monokote heat gun
I have to agree with Joe, a properly built boat doesn't need extra strengthening in the engine bay. As for the transom, you could add some glue blocks along the edges to increase the strength in this area.
Getting back to you question on Z-Poxy, I'll never use it again. I found it to be brittle and not fuel proof when used in a sport 20 last year. I was able to remove all of it with a blunt edged metal bladed spreader and a Monokote heat gun
I will come Sat or Sun.,we still got a shovel for you HJ
I have a extra .21 and a .12 rigger kit ,that needs to be built. If you want to build. trade the Mas. if you want. Rick
Also a good looking hull by the way, good job.
11-01-2012, 05:26 PM
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I had 6 Zippkit builds going last winter. So you better get going. 
I'm happy building a .12 rigger.this year. I also have a used Whip to repaint- minor stuff.
also Grim fuel http://www.intlwaters.com/index.php?...ic=40628&st=15
I'm happy building a .12 rigger.this year. I also have a used Whip to repaint- minor stuff.also Grim fuel http://www.intlwaters.com/index.php?...ic=40628&st=15
11-01-2012, 06:03 PM
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RE: Central NEW YORK boaters
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18.5 pounds? What does it weigh with the engine and hardware installed? [:@]
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You're doing a very nice job on your Bullitt Rick. Regarding weight, my boat weighs 18.5 pounds and it is competative.
Dick T.
You're doing a very nice job on your Bullitt Rick. Regarding weight, my boat weighs 18.5 pounds and it is competative.
Dick T.
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11-01-2012, 06:20 PM
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I had 6 Zippkit builds going last winter. So you better get going. I'm happy building a .12 rigger.this year. I also have a used Whip to repaint- minor stuff.
also Grim fuel http://www.intlwaters.com/index.php?...ic=40628&st=15
I had 6 Zippkit builds going last winter. So you better get going.
I'm happy building a .12 rigger.this year. I also have a used Whip to repaint- minor stuff.also Grim fuel http://www.intlwaters.com/index.php?...ic=40628&st=15
11-01-2012, 06:30 PM
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LOL.... Was just following Joes lead, cant run anyone over till i lap em...lol look out neil!!... i have throttle cut on all boats and planes, wasnt born yesterday.. lol.. will the rare earth magnets hold in a blow over!! i have seen lots of different holddown methods and none seem to work better than others... where can you get the magnets.?? hobby shop? after running the new JAE .21 I KNOW how fast things pop up,but its usually the darn bouies that keep jumping out in front of me...cant wait till she's broke in so i can really open it up!! heck of a lot faster than the PAY N PAK i used to run!! thanks for the info and tips... much appreciated!!
Rick P.
Rick P.
ORIGINAL: Billk44
Rare earth magnet work really well and a very clean look. Thunderboat are really good looking boats. Don't run over anyone and don't run up on shore. Make certain the engine will shutdown when you need to. Most of all, practice your driving and control. The faster you go, the faster things pop up.
Rare earth magnet work really well and a very clean look. Thunderboat are really good looking boats. Don't run over anyone and don't run up on shore. Make certain the engine will shutdown when you need to. Most of all, practice your driving and control. The faster you go, the faster things pop up.
