There are numerous dupicate, triplicate, quadruplicate postings. People use several different forums to sell their planes and engines, etc. Items are being improperly bumped on a regular basis.

All of the above is on going and appearing daily - why isn't somethng being done about it?? Are the Mods all on strike or worse yet asleep? If I can see all these problems I can only assume they can see them as well but they are rarely corrected. Did someone burn the rule book?

One of the most abused forums is Tips and Techiques.

I would think this forum would be used if you HAD a tip or techique to share.

Not how do I do this or how do you do that. That should be put in Questions and Answers.

And then there is Show me your this or that and Look at my whatever. Put that in the clubhouse.

Tim

Tim - You hit another glaring example right on the head - posts that obviously belong in other forums but never get there
yet stick out like a sore thumb
for all to see. This sets a bad example for those who just post without due regard for the rules here. I recall it was just this sort of thing that was rampant on the late great RCO before it went down the toilet into oblivion. Is RCU headed that way as well?

So Shemp, just what did you want me to do about it? Shouldn't you have just expressed your opinion to Marc, or one of the community mod's?

Shemp

A wise man once said "Patience is a virtue"...

Simply because you view a thread that needs work, doesn't mean it won't be addressed in do time. Our Moderators work for FREE. They have lives, jobs and oh yes a hobby to attend as well as RCU. Your certainly familiar with the report this thread to a Moderator button. That's why it's there.

The Moderator's as a team decide when, where, why and how a POST is to be moved, cleaned, merged and or deleted. If WE feel it's off track, out of place or in poor taste WE deal with it! And yes it may take an hour, a day or more. Sometimes these things require collective MOD input. In any event WE care, were human and WE have needs too.

way to go mike shemp is still exicersing his opinions sure glad it not me to have to listen to his noise

dennis1943

Did you guys hit the "report post to moderator" link on the items in question? That helps the moderators spot the trouble areas. 3500 posts/day make it hard to read them all so all the members need to help out to make rcu organized. If you see out of place posts report them...if you see no action taken on a reported post within 48 hours then PM me personally and I will address the post as well as the mods in that forum.

48 hours is reasonable considering these guys work for free and might not be online 24/7. Sooner is of course better.

I just want to clairify my post. I am in no way dissatisfied with RCU or it moderators. I know they have a dificult job to do and for the most part do it well. (suck suck) I am just saying it would be easyer on them and the rest of us if people would think about where to post before they do. It seems like some people only read and reply to a few select fourms and post everything there whether they belong there or not.

Tim

Personally I have noticed this for a long time, They (some members) dont even try to find the right forum.

It took 16/18 days to get a response to My similar thread ( Off Topic, Out of Topic) in this same forum.???

So yes the Mod's are vaulenteers, Thats appreciated.

RCU is a Clean site, with good intentions and rules that are fair.

But I feel like a jerk if I report a post that should be in another forum, Or a post that has been spammed.

A post/thread that has vulgar or off the wall attack on another member, is what I would consider the "Report this post" button is for. And it would take all the enjoyment out of it if I had to point things out, that are so obvious.

I don't even like typing this, but it really bothers Me that it has gotten so out of hand.

Marc You say over and over Its a Slippery Slope, You allways have an excuse. But take a look for Yourself, Forum topics are being ignored and posts are anywhere and everywhere.

Not only that the threads and posts increase Bandwidth cost, but they make allot of us feel as 'ShempHoward' does.

Mod's reply to threads when they are clearly out of topic or off topic, and don't give it a second thought. Yes they are human and are trying hard to keep the site clean, and do their best.

As said many times before, Common Sense" should be used. If it was then rules would not be needed,
Rcu has 3500 posts per day, 50 mods. If it has gotten so large so fast why not add more mods? The don't cost anything, Right?

How many people have more than one RCU accnt.? How many members don't read the rules? If I send a PM complaining about a post or topic, how long would it be before I am singled out as a trouble maker? Where is the enjoyment??

I still think its a great site, And I appreciate ALL THE EFFORTS.

But this too is a Slippery Slope" Should I care or Not????

Charge a yearly membership?? $ 25.00 per year?? Or just browse from the outside as a GUEST"

I don't know How to fix it other than just LOOK AROUND"
Dan Z

Ditto

I would feel like a tatle tale if I reported every little thing and I am sure the moderators would get tired of it as well.

I know Mods work for free as some may recall I was one here at one time before I got axed for enforcing the rules a little too much and talking back to a few members who felt it was their right to post what ever they wanted in what ever forum they wished. I spent a lot of time deleting multiple posts and cleaning others up plus deleting the bumps. The problems were generally those that kept up their activities plus newbies who never bothered to read the rules. There were other Mods who were on the same 4-5 Forums with me but they chose to do little or nothing - why? - I have no idea - maybe they didn't have the time or patience. I kept my charge clean - it angered a few but tough noogies.

If you volunteer to do the job
then do it and stop complaining
about others who complain its not getting done because its not - period.

Marc: If you can't see all the multiple and errant posts just by glancing thru the forums then you need glasses and more Mods who are willing to spend the time to do the work. Its simple but some feel its too time consuming and complicated. If thats the case give it up for lent and go flying.

fellas...the mods are there to review reported posts primarily...for some reason everyone feels the mods should read all 3500 posts every day...impossible...nobody is a tattletale...if somebody posts in the wrong forum then report it...if you want the quality of the site to remain high then everybody has to pitch in a bit...30,000 eyeballs are much better than 50 moderators alone...they need help. Those who post in the wrong forum often do it cause they don't know any better...report it and a mod moves it and explains to the user where it was moved and why so hopefully it doesn't happen again.

Mods work for free...mods are not expected to read every posts...mods are expected to address those posts that are reported if they are misposts, against the rules or so forth.

You can sit back and look at each post that is in the wrong place and do nothing or report it and be part of the RCU ecosystem that keeps it organized.

Now wait a minute mark....are you suggesting we should become pro-active, instead of just sitting back and complaining without being willing to help, or offer a solution......well if that were to happen things would probley be corrected quickly and then what would we complain about !!!!!!!! LOL.... I think you guys are doing a great job. a while back, I E-mailed you with a issue (very minor) you responded quickly and the issue was addressed rapidly. Anything I can do to help let me know
Best
Brian

Marc

I, Myself, only. Feel that Your response is again not to the point I was trying to make.

I don't expect the Mod's to read 3500 posts every day, Nor do I feel thats an accurate example. There are a lot of NEW Threads started (the ones that have a title in the forum.

But when a mod goes to CLUB HOUSE forum, can't they see the front page of threads like we do? and when they see a Thread started regarding AMA or RADIO Q/A or ARF FLYS BETTER, thay could and should deal with it then. I am not saying they have to read all the posts/replies, just that they should at a glance see the Topic's and Out of Topics. During their visit"

I tried to say a month or so ago, the Toggleed Forum view also affects the "Drop Down Forum Jump" and may cause some of the resulting out of topic posts. When Toggeled to Subscribed forum view, the only TOPIC FORUMS that come up are the subscribed ones. This can lead to the Poster not seeing the correct forum"

Proactive Yes" I see the point in that, but when a glider question was placed in begginers forum, I tried to nicely point the poster to the correct forum. Then the same day in the same bigginers forum, another out of place thread was replied to serveral times by a couple of mod's.

I am not putting any RCU Mod down, it is just as You put it "The Rules". I wont try to point out trivial OUT OF PLACE THREADS as long as there are Mod's who reply and converse in those threads.

That makes me look like a idiot and a whinney, and any Pro-Active effort is shortly lost.

I thank You as I have said may times before, RCU is a Great site and is kept clean and I appreciate it. Dan Z

Dan,

I see what you are saying however it would still be worthwhile for all to state if a post is not where it should be...report it and a mod from that forum can take care of it. Some mod replies might not be ones that can move stuff in that forum. All mods cannot moderate sitewide.

Nobody is whiney...if mods aren't doing their jobs then this is a way to help them do it and if they don't respond to reported posts then you can email "[email protected]" who is our community director and give him specifics. He will investigate and take it up with the moderator and keep your name out of it. If necessary another mod can be added or the current mod replaced if they no longer have the time or inclination to do the job up to the high standards we all expect.

See Marc, in Youre response I just learnd some vaulable info.

Mod's are not equal in power? That may help with My thinking.

I just feel RCU is seeing a tremendous amout of wasted band width (cost) due to these problems.

I try to post in the proper forum, thats just Me. Suggestions" is where I feel I can suggest RCU related ideas that will or will not have a benifit to RCU and keeping the cost down.

I am not saying the Mod's are the Primary trouble, they are in fact the smallest percentage.

GrnBrt posted an 'Off Topic thread' it was a good thread but not RC related, after several other good threads were closed for being not RC related in the same forum.

I like GrnBrt, He has been to many of the same areas I have. And I think He could post any topic He wants to, 'but it sets another slippery slope example"

I look at the cost like I was paying it, I feel thats right too. I have offered My thoughts the best I can, and I have learned even more through this.

I thank You and I will try to take Your advice in the future. Dan Z

Dan,

I hope all members here realize they can pitch in to help keep the forums "tidy"...the mods handle the actual closing, opening and moving of threads/posts but in large part at this size we really need the help of users to keep good order here..

The "Report this post to a moderator" link is strictly there for this purpose.

Sorry Marc - That link is useless or at least it has been for me for some time. This is the whole point of my post. What everyone can see that is immediately obvious when scanning the various For Sale/WTD Forums appears to be invisible to those who have the power to make the deletions.

Shemp

Is it possible that when the MOD's see your report they handle the indiscretion. I know this is true for me. And in some case's I simply don't have a problem with the reported post, other times I may discuss it with the MOD group and then if your lucky, I flush it!:devious:

It simply is not getting done Mike. I think many (not all) Mods just delete any incoming e-mail from me without reading it because they already know the topic and don't want to bother with it. I must say that Culverson and Bill Fortney have been helpful but it appears their authority in these matters has been has been compromised recently.

I think you guys are missing the real message here. Make a twice daily scan or even a once daily scan of the For Sale Forums and you will easily see the numerous multiple postings and erhaps even witness some of the bumping that is happening. Its even going on in the discussion forums as well.

I think the real owners of RCU are the members themselves, not Marc, not the moderators. Only in this way can the forum be self regulating. It is the responsibility of every member to upkeep this forum and make sure it's running fine. In this respect, the "report to moderator" button is useful, although reactive. members should be proactive enough to post correctly, responsibly, and sensibly. My 2C worth...........

I wonder to myself, on way would to delete all the spaming, not a hole lot of space save, but still, saves space, I mean, they go, and shut down one of the 2 spaming threads, yet, that dosnt do squat, you should delete the thread, not shut it down, and yes, im have spamed myself, and no longer do it. my .2 $

Im with you Shemp!! Im sure the Mods have their hands full, BUT if they would keep up with their forums and correct these guys, maybe the others would see the light and the Mods wouldnt have this much trouble. I love this site and it has been the absolute greatest so far, but if left for the dogs it too will falter. Just do your job Mods, after all thats what you volunteered for!! Whew! Somebody help me off this soap box....

The members need to continually help with the "neighborhood watch" here at RCU which will make the mods more efficient. 3500 posts per day means they need all the extra eyes they can get.

Neighborhod Watch?? If one person,such as myself, can see all these problems why can't the Mods?? A simple question yet not rsolved as I see again today that its business as usual on RCU. Here's a few examples: Garhide has 4 posts in Heli Events for his Fun Fly - 4 posts
- is that really a good example to set?? Won't one post with all his alleged changes suffice??
Here's another: check out the WTD section of Airplanes, ARFs and Kits - one person has 5 postings there for the same thing. How could anybody in authority mis 5 pstings of the same thing?? There's plenty more
but you don't want to hear about it obviously.

Lots of empty talk here but no action.