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Old 11-20-2007 | 10:45 PM
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I just finish working on my T-rex V2. Everything seems to be set up properly. The heli hovers pretty good for a few seconds and then suddenly the mptor starts to bog down. I am using the stock motor (with 12T pinion) and ESC that came with the heli. I power it up with a 22C pack lipo. I even tried it on different lipo with same results. I also tried to put the same Align ESC (as the stock) also the same results. I couldn't find the problem. It seems I am out of options. Needing some help to figure it out.
Old 11-21-2007 | 12:10 AM
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you might either have too much pinion (try a 10t or 11t) or you might have too much pitch on the blades at a low rpm. since the pitch is easier to change try lowering the pitch curve to see if that helps.
Old 11-21-2007 | 05:51 AM
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You mention the max discharge rate of the battery, 22C, but you do not mention the capacity or the brand. Both are relevant pieces of info.
Old 11-21-2007 | 11:59 AM
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You mention the max discharge rate of the battery, 22C, but you do not mention the capacity or the brand. Both are relevant pieces of info.
Sorry. I am using the 11.1v Align lipo with 2100mAh 22c.
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What pitch are you running? If you follow Finless Bob's recommendation, a 5 point pitch curve in normal mode works out to be 40,45,50,75,100. This works perfect for me, about -2 degrees at 0 throttle and +11 degrees at 100% throttle.

If it is not a pitch problem and you have tried (2) good Lipo packs, I guess it could be a defective ESC or motor. Do you have a spare to try?
Old 11-21-2007 | 12:45 PM
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give that a shot, also unplug the motor and check your pitch, when i was learning to hover i used -2 and +8. Also, see if theres any binding in the head, give it full throttle and spin with your hand, see if its still easy to do.
Old 11-21-2007 | 01:17 PM
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What pitch are you running? If you follow Finless Bob's recommendation, a 5 point pitch curve in normal mode works out to be 40,45,50,75,100. This works perfect for me, about -2 degrees at 0 throttle and +11 degrees at 100% throttle.

If it is not a pitch problem and you have tried (2) good Lipo packs, I guess it could be a defective ESC or motor. Do you have a spare to try?

All my set ups are base on Finless Bob's video. I also tried switching with my spare ESC still the same thing happens. Right now I am in the process of using the stock ESC and an Align motor which is the 3500kv with 12T pinion. I'll see what happens next.
Old 11-22-2007 | 02:33 PM
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Well after using different motor, ESC and pinions still the same results. The heli will hover for a few seconds and starts to bog down. Still needing help. Thank you.
Old 11-22-2007 | 08:58 PM
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what pitch?

you have not addressed that
Which pitch gauge are you using?
Old 11-22-2007 | 09:52 PM
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Maybe could be someting binding.Belt to tight ,Pinion to tight to the main gear.Everything should spin free .
Old 11-23-2007 | 04:40 AM
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what pitch?

you have not addressed that
Which pitch gauge are you using?

If you are asking pitch values. I am using the once Finless Bobs recommends on his video. I am using the align pitcg gauge.
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do you have someone local that can look at it?
Old 11-23-2007 | 11:46 AM
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do you have someone local that can look at it?
No. I don't know anybody around here who flies heli. I've been doing these all by myself. Infact I got 3 other T-rex that I built but nothing like this happen to me before.
Old 11-23-2007 | 08:09 PM
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do you have someone local that can look at it?
No. I don't know anybody around here who flies heli. I've been doing these all by myself. Infact I got 3 other T-rex that I built but nothing like this happen to me before.
Go take a look at the [link=http://www.modelaircraft.org/clubsearch.aspx]AMA club search page[/link]. There are 16 clubs within 25 miles of zip code 60077. I bet that some of those clubs have some of the members who fly helis.

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