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Old 01-05-2010 | 08:52 PM
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Both of my planes with AR6000's are bound to my DX6i, but each time I want to fly them, it's a fight to get them to talk to each other. It used to take up to a minute and involved turning off the radio and disconnecting the battery a few times before success..

Here's what works quickly and often:

1. Connect the battery to the plane (or receiver if separate)
2. Turn on the DX6i (make sure it's the right model)
3. Go to SETUP then RANGE CHECK and pull foward on the trainer switch (i.e. do a range check)

Both my recievers synce up to my DX6i within a few seconds (just like my old DX6)

Please reply if this works or doesn't work for you.. Hopefully this is a universal trick..
Old 01-06-2010 | 06:55 AM
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Default RE: Binding DX6i with AR6000

I have the same issue with my AR6000's and will have to try that one. My 6100 and 6200's connect almost instantaneously.

EG
Old 01-06-2010 | 10:42 AM
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nowires, from the way you are describing it, it sounds as if you are powering up the airplane before you turn your transmitter on. If this is what you are doing that is the complete oppisite of what you are to do. If you are flying electric's that have a ESC that is powering your receiver, then here is what you want to do. Turn on the receiver first and wait until your light on the back or front is solid then plug the battery in for the plane and it should link up. If you have a seperate receiver battery then you want to turn the transmiter on first again wait until the light is solid then turn your switch on for the receiver then plug the batteries for the ESC in. It could also be that your AR 6000's are so old that they do not have the upgraded software and it is causing them to take a little longer to connect. If you are trying to power up the plane first before you turn the transmitter on then it is the failsafes in the program that are causing you the problems. It,s kinda hard to explain but you always want to power up your transmiter before you power up the plane & it's the reverse for when you are done flying turn the plane off first then the transmitter.

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Old 01-06-2010 | 11:18 AM
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Transmitter first.
Dont keep it too close to the model while its linking, at least arms length.

The 6000's have to switch down to DSM to link, the 6i attempts first to link with DSM2, if it can't get a link it shifts down to DSM. This takes a few moments.
Old 01-06-2010 | 11:30 AM
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Greg..

Thanks for the info, but you're thinking a bit "old school". If you're flying 72 mhz, it's important that your transmitter is always the 1st to be powered and the last to be shut off since any other transmitter on the same channel could start you prop spinning when at the wrong time.

Not so with 2.4 ghz. Even Spektrum says it doesn't matter in which order things are powered since, once the initial bind process is done, they share a unique code. In fact, after your flight, the easiest way to pervent a prop strike injury from accidentally bumping your throttle stick is to turn off your 2.4 ghz transmitter. That is, so long as your ESC failsafe throttle position set up correctly. Even if the ESC is in "failsafe" it will still be trying to connect to your transmitter, otherwise you'd never regain control after a "brownout".

Anyway, it's a well know problem that the DX6i and the AR6000 that have already been bound together are finicky in connecting to each other on subsequent flights. This is why we who are affected by this try powering and unpowering our equipment is various combinations to try to get things going and fly. So this is one of those "tricks" that seems to work for me a majority of the time. But once they are connected, they are rock solid and it's a great combination.. Although it's still just a bunch of black magic anyway...

Jack

P.S. The Spektrum DX6i has no lights that illuminate upon power up. You may be thinking of the DX6, which binds quickly and easily to my month old AR6000's. Most speculation on this issue has to do with the DX6i having to communicate with the AR6000 under the older DSM technology vs DSM2. The DX6i is backwards campatible, but it's not as seemless as with the newer DSM2 recievers it's designed for.
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Default RE: Binding DX6i with AR6000

Straight out of the Spektrum Manual.

1. Q: Which do I turn on first, the transmitter or the receiver?

A: If the receiver is turned on first (except for the AR500, AR6100 and the AR7100 receivers), all servos except
for the throttle will be driven to their preset failsafe positions set during binding. At this time, the throttle
channel doesn’t put out a pulse position preventing the arming of electronic speed controllers or, in the case
of an engine-powered aircraft, the throttle servo remains in its current position. When the transmitter is then
turned on, the transmitter scans the 2.4GHz band and acquires two open channels. Then the receiver that was
previously bound to the transmitter scans the band and finds the GUID (Globally Unique Identifier code) stored
during binding. The system then connects and operates normally.

Note: When using the AR500, AR6100 or the AR7100, if the receiver is turned on first, no output
pulses are sent to any channels.

If the transmitter is turned on first, the transmitter scans the 2.4GHz band and acquires two open channels. When
the receiver (except forAR500, AR6100 and AR7100 receivers) is then turned on for a short period (the time it
takes to connect), all servos except for the throttle are driven to their preset failsafe positions while the throttle
has no output pulse. The receiver scans the 2.4GHz band looking for the previously stored GUID, and when it
locates the specific GUID code and confirms uncorrupted repeatable packet information, the system connects
and normal operation takes place. Typically this takes 2 to 6 seconds.
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Old 01-11-2010 | 12:24 PM
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See DX6i Manual:

Page 22:

TIP ON USING 2.4 GHZ SYSTEMS

1. Q: Which do I turn on first, the transmitter or the receiver?

A: It doesn't matter, ......(long expalnation here that I'm not going to type out)...


Old 06-07-2011 | 12:15 PM
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I have a DX6 with three different different AR6000 receivers. Each receiver is separately bound to the Xmtr. The problem is that the Xmtr can still talk to any of the receivers but will use the information for the plane which is selected-hence if you are tuned to your Pitts and flying a Cularis-well you can see where I'm going. My question is this: will a DX6i only recognize the receiver it is tuned to?

Jim
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Default RE: Binding DX6i with AR6000

Jim,
Yes, the DX6i has the "Model Protect" feature (or whatever it's called) and the radio wil only bind to the pre-selected model
Old 06-07-2011 | 12:34 PM
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ORIGINAL: oneup

I have a DX6 with three different different AR6000 receivers. Each receiver is separately bound to the Xmtr. The problem is that the Xmtr can still talk to any of the receivers but will use the information for the plane which is selected-hence if you are tuned to your Pitts and flying a Cularis-well you can see where I'm going. My question is this: will a DX6i only recognize the receiver it is tuned to?

Jim
Model Match

The reciever will only link up when the model memory that it's bound to is selected. If you bind it to your Pitts in Model1, and to your Cularis in Model2, it wont link up with the Pitts unless Model1 is selected.

For clarity, binding is the process of forcing the receiver to memorize the ID code of the transmitter by the use of a bind plug on the receiver and bind mode on the transmitter.

Linking is the process of turning the transmitter on, reciever on, and establishing an RF link to go flying.

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