Ziroli DC-3
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Jeff , Yes i did get an answer back from richblin , He received the fuselage from an asian co. as i remember and did a great deal of rework . It may have been a prototype. I had also contacted American Eagle Model Aircraft. They have temporarily stoped production on all of their composite kits.
I am waiting for American Eagle to restart and will get my DC3 from them .
I am waiting for American Eagle to restart and will get my DC3 from them .
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RE: Ziroli DC-3
Hi Chris,
Appreciate the quick answer. I'm never sure whether to go fiberglass or built-up on anything these days. Just picked up a Bates F4F laser cut built-up kit, but I think I'll go instead with the glass fuse from Leo Spychalla.
Take care!
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Appreciate the quick answer. I'm never sure whether to go fiberglass or built-up on anything these days. Just picked up a Bates F4F laser cut built-up kit, but I think I'll go instead with the glass fuse from Leo Spychalla.
Take care!
Jeff
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Just finished an engine upgrade to Saito GG-36 gassers from the Fugi 32's I had in it.These engines have more power and have the 4 stroke sound which sounds way more realistic.I have about an hour of breakin time on these engines turning 18x10 2 blade props and I think we may have a winner here with this setup .Test flights are coming soon this month.Stay tuned..
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With a lot of inspiratiom from this thread I decided to start my build after delaying it for few years while collecting bits and pieces.
Thanks SteveD-RCU you have provided an excellent path to help me with this build .
BTW , Steve did you sell yours ? if not how did the test flights go ?
Thanks SteveD-RCU you have provided an excellent path to help me with this build .
BTW , Steve did you sell yours ? if not how did the test flights go ?
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Lookin good CK1,I still have my DC-3 alright.To date I've only got the 3 flights on her.I'm testing these Saito 36cc gassers to see if they are suitable .I think they will be and will let you know how that goes.Right now I have one of the engines in a 4 star 120 but the weathers been too cold up here to get much flying in.We've also had some field issues,its in a rough condition right now because were moving to a new field and the old field isn't being maintained like it should be.
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Steve , Good to hear you still have yours . I hope the weather and the field conditions improve for you so you can get more flying in ,but you probably have a bit more winter to get through first. Keep us posted on the Saitos .
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Nice. I bought the wreckage of a Z DC-3 two years ago and I'm almost done rebuilding her. I hope to fly her this season. I'm using 2 G-38s with 16x8 3 blades. What is the finished weight of yours? I know mine will be a little heavey - majorly repaired planes usually are. Here are a few pics, but you can see these and many more on my website www.qmfc.org You can also see a movie of the actual crash (get a box of tissues before you watch it [&o]
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Nice Rebuild!
A friend of mine preaches that a re-build is always faster than a build-build, no matter how bad it looks.
I had seen the video of your crash before. Heart-breaker! Looks to me like it got off and tried to climb too soon, although I can't speak to CG and wing incidence just by watching the video.
Another friend of mine had an equally heart-breaking maiden, for other reasons: www.youtube.com/watch?v=yV0ZcVbM82k
I have to share a little responsibilty for that one because I actually held the plane while he checked control surfaces pre-flight, but I didn't force him to let me hold the transmitter and check them myself. I think his finished weight was 47 #. He had G-38's and it seemed like plenty of power.
Nick Ziroli told my friend that correct washout and root incidence is very important on this model. Too much washout is better than not enough, but "just right" is best!
Good Luck! Keep us posted!
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A friend of mine preaches that a re-build is always faster than a build-build, no matter how bad it looks.
I had seen the video of your crash before. Heart-breaker! Looks to me like it got off and tried to climb too soon, although I can't speak to CG and wing incidence just by watching the video.
Another friend of mine had an equally heart-breaking maiden, for other reasons: www.youtube.com/watch?v=yV0ZcVbM82k
I have to share a little responsibilty for that one because I actually held the plane while he checked control surfaces pre-flight, but I didn't force him to let me hold the transmitter and check them myself. I think his finished weight was 47 #. He had G-38's and it seemed like plenty of power.
Nick Ziroli told my friend that correct washout and root incidence is very important on this model. Too much washout is better than not enough, but "just right" is best!
Good Luck! Keep us posted!
mt
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Ouch on that one too. Is a rebuild in the offing? We know ours wasn't a CG problem. But definately the take-off was too early. I was standing next to the pilot and I know he was surprized when it lifted off. Probably should have just dropped it back down. After handling the first stall condition, he noticed the trees in front and again, probably should have cut the engines and put it down in the long grass. But he pulled up into the fatal stall.
The pilot is an experienced giant multi-enging pilot so I know he was really upset with this. I hope my repair flys. It looks like my model will weigh in at 48 -49 #. What props were on yours?
We had another pilot in our club put in a beautifully detailed scale giant Steerman because of reversed ailerons. Easily done.
cheers
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The pilot is an experienced giant multi-enging pilot so I know he was really upset with this. I hope my repair flys. It looks like my model will weigh in at 48 -49 #. What props were on yours?
We had another pilot in our club put in a beautifully detailed scale giant Steerman because of reversed ailerons. Easily done.
cheers
/colin
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Nice looking Dak. There are some of mine on this thread too. I'm not sure if it will help but I can send you my RealFlight Giant DC-3 export that I hope my DC-3 will fly like. If you want it let me have your email address. Mine is [email protected]. I'm also going to post it on my web-site at www.qmfc.com in the next day or two.
cheer
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cheer
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Well, it's coming along. The fuse id almost finished. My thoughts now turn to finishing the cockpit. I don't want to put too much time into it, but I do want to cut out the windows so I'll need at least two pilot looking figures. If there's anyone out there with some advice, I'm all ears.
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Ziroli makes some really nice pre-painted 1/8 scale pilots either in a bust or full body.You can also get a really nice 1/8th scale full cockpit thru www.scalercmodels.com/cockpit. I was about 75% done with my Ziroli C-47 when I was made an offer I could not refuse from a WWII collector in San Diego for a static display, May 1st I will have to let it go. I will build again either a Ziroli or a American Eagle.Anybody have any input on the American eagle kits?
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jperkinstrades,I had ordered a DC3 from American Eagle a year ago but never was able to get it from them .In the mist of it supposedly being shipped to me they temporarily stopped producing kits . I see they now have on their website they are taking limited orders . I have since started on my Ziroli after patiently waiting for many months for the American Eagle to show up. I quit waiting .... My advice is to procede with patience if persuing the American Eagle Kit . After researching it I still feel the American Eagle DC3 would be an excellent second choice to the Ziroli.
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Thanks. I am using the Ziroli Glass cockpit/nose section. I'm planning on Glueing it to the fuse for a permanent fixture. But that would preclude to going back in to add detail to the cockpit. I'm not happy about having screws visible. Are there any other ways to attach the front en d that you know of?
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crtmmac , I also have been thinking about the nose section and I haven't decided how I am going to make it removeable, but I do think it should be made removeable for access to the cockpit . I know something will come loose in there at some point .
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The Resurrection of a Lady - Electrified. http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1053644. It was a pleasure to rebuild (in less than 30 days) and test flights will be this Wednesday if weather permits. ed