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William Robison 05-12-2003 05:22 PM

which P38 to get??
 
rottielover:

You do not specify which one you want to order.

The VQ can be had from Morris Hobbies, The KMP from Kondor Model Products.

A quick web search will give you their URLs.

Bill.

grahamd1 05-12-2003 05:40 PM

which P38 to get??
 
try

http://www.ultimate-rc.com/kmp.htm

or http://www.kmp.ca

Lukepiestalker 05-13-2003 08:56 PM

YT International
 
Grahamd1, thanks for the information I've checked out the website, it's good to see that the P38 is available and 374 quid isn't asking much for what you get. As for it's flying attributes I will wait till crashnburnin gets his hands on one and I'll wait to hear if the flying experience is as enthralling to him as the pretty picture was. I am pretty sure he will only be too pleased to let us all know how well she flies.

Colin

grahamd1 05-14-2003 06:03 AM

which P38 to get??
 
I've put some pictures on

http://www.rcuniverse.com/showthread...572#post965706

of the Corsair kit I got yesterday, and even more details on the UK forum

http://www.rcmodelflying.co.uk/forum...;threadid=3003]

crashNburnin 05-21-2003 01:38 PM

which P38 to get??
 
nice pics ! :cool:

Bob Paris 05-24-2003 05:54 PM

G. P. profile for me...
 
With all the hullabaloo over the ARF P-38's coming down the line, and all the price increases over the first advertised price...I opted to buy the profile u-build kit from Great Planes. I've yet to even here that one has flown successfully and at $500~$1100 U.S. bucks a pop...that $99.00 kit look to good to pass up. I've one ordered now.

Soft landings always,

Bobby of Maui

AKondor 05-25-2003 01:20 AM

which P38 to get??
 
HI:

Just so everyones clear on the price increase....... the original price was without retracts. The new price (100.00) more includes a complete set of three air retracts with the air tank, lines and valves. (189.00 or more value).

Its well worth the difference.

Andrew Kondor :cool:

CaptHal 05-28-2003 09:42 PM

Maui
 
Still flying by the race track on Maui??
I tried it there and found wind, short field, and fences a real tough challenge.
Bobby, if you are flying there you can fly anywhere.

Hal
(formerly of Kihei)

Bulldogflyer 05-28-2003 09:54 PM

which P38 to get??
 
I got a good look at the VQ P-38 at joe nall,I wasnt impressed by it.It's not bad,but not worth what they are getting for it in my opinion.

William Robison 05-28-2003 10:09 PM

which P38 to get??
 
Gentlemen:

Repeating myself, I just can't see the VQ P-38, the KMP is less than 1/2 the price, considering the retracts, and the scale errors don't cost the $500 difference to fix.

Go for the KMP.

Bill.

PS: Andrew, here's another plug. Haw. wr.

Bob Paris 05-28-2003 11:27 PM

Not the same story I got...
 
Dear AKondor;

You e-mailed me about the cost of the P-38 months ago when I first showed interest in the kit...the price was $375.00 to $450.00 including pneumatic retracts.

I do not need retracts...I need a $400.00 ARF kit or less for the P-38...

As far as VQ...I best say...no comment...:(

Until then I will keep building away with my kits, and until things get more reasonable...I'll just keep on dreaming...:)

__________________________________________

Dear Hal;

Yes I still do fly here on Maui...and the winds are something to believe. We still fly out of the WW-II Marine Corsair revetment area...You need some kind of wavo's to fly some times. So we all have our knock around model trainer to wreck when the winds are up.

Soft landings always,

Bobby of Maui

CaptHal 05-28-2003 11:47 PM

Yeah Bobby
 
I miss Hawaii and I miss Maui.
Mahalo,
hal

Capt G 05-29-2003 12:17 AM

which P38 to get??
 
Just had a chance to look the VQ kit over and I've got to say I don't think much of the printed "shelf paper" type covering.

Paul Grubich 05-30-2003 03:11 AM

which P38 to get??
 
Bob, the Morris VQ P-38 has flown. Go to my site www.rcwarbirds.com to see the pictures.

The Virginian 06-09-2003 09:39 PM

First Flight
 
A member of my club bought and built a VQ P-38. The first flight lasted 58 seconds. The airplane got slow in a turn, snapped, and spun in. The full scale P-38 was always prone to snapping at low speed (killed the number two American ace by snapping at low altitude) and the scale wing tips aren't going to make the situation any better.

Lukepiestalker 06-09-2003 10:18 PM

Slow turn
 
How did he manage get into a slow turn? Did he loose an engine, was it underpowered. Or was it that ,after 58 seconds he realised something was not quite right and was trying to bring it in.

Colin.

TLH101 06-09-2003 10:31 PM

which P38 to get??
 
At 40+ oz wing loading, I bet we a lot more horror stories like this. Too bad to see any P-38 go in.

RangerVorian 06-09-2003 10:45 PM

which P38 to get??
 
What was the plane powered by???

The Virginian 06-10-2003 07:20 PM

which P38 to get??
 
The P-38 was powered by two well broken in O.S. 91 four strokes. Both engines were running and he was trying to trim the airplane when the snaps occured. He said that the plane snapped right and he was able to recover it but then it immediately snapped left and went in. As one observer put it, the airplane started out the flight moving like a scalded cat. After three trips across the field, the pilot slowed it to make it easier to concentrate on trimming it. When he reached the end of the field, he had to turn again and that is when it snapped. The pilot told me that he thought that he might have had too much elevator authority. It's also possible that the CG was too far aft, but that's my speculation, not the pilot's. It is also possible that something broke on the airplane, but there was so much damage on impact that making that determination was impossible. A highly tapered, highly loaded wing is just very prone to snapping and pilots need to be aware of this. When you set up your aileron throws, it will help a lot if you put in a lot of differential. Also be careful of your CG location.

TLH101 06-11-2003 07:27 PM

which P38 to get??
 
Well lets see, that's 3 up & 2 down.
Counting the one in Vietnam that flew on OS .70's, with 14x8 props:
http://rcwarbirds.com/p38flys.htm
the one from Tenn., that has a set a retracts for sale:
http://rcuniverse.com/showthread.php...40&forumid=160
and this one, that's 2 out of three that have crashed.
Not a good sign so far. Let's just hope this is a freak coincedence.

William Robison 06-11-2003 07:39 PM

which P38 to get??
 
Sounds like just one more reason to get the KMP version.

You can crash twice as often for the same money.

Bill.

Terror Dactyl 06-12-2003 01:39 AM

which P38 to get??
 
And I thought I was cold hearted. I hope that someone keeps a running tab (HINT HINT).

William Robison 06-12-2003 02:05 AM

which P38 to get??
 
Jim:

Originally posted by Terror Dactyl
And I thought I was cold hearted.
Excerpt from "Hard-Hearted Hannah" - "...there was Hannah pouring water on a drowning man..." Me? Cold hearted? Pragmatic.

I hope that someone keeps a running tab (HINT HINT).
And I still can NOT understand why anyone would spend the money for the VQ when the KMP is less than 1/2 the price.

Bill.

PS: Jim, we do not know that the one in VC country made a successful landing. The last picture showed it still on final. Who knows what happened later? Score could well be three for three. wr.

Paul Grubich 06-12-2003 02:48 AM

which P38 to get??
 
The one flown by Dung in Vietnam has made several flights, all successful as I understand it.

Terror Dactyl 06-12-2003 04:03 PM

which P38 to get??
 
Yes Virginia there is a Santa Clause, we think.

I see that the gear is always down on the pics so they did not use retracts at the factory. :D :D I guess they are expecting them any day as well :D :D

I seem to be switching most favorite plane from P-38 to BV-141 and most liked twin to ME-110, but thats another story.


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