Greetings, fellow hellicopter pilots.
lately iv'e been thinking on upgrading from 4 to 6 channel heli
i read a lot over here and in other sites, about these two companies
bottom line is- which will be better to take- the E-Sky honey bee CP2, or the Walkera DF35?
the DF36 is not available around here, so i have choice only between those two...
and also- if i buy a brushless motor for the e-sky, do i need more new equipment or can i just put it instad of the brushed motor and use as-is?
thaneks for any post replied O: need the answer A.S.A.P :]

These are two different helis.. the CP2 is as small as a DF4 for the 35 its a size 400 heli.. the only thing that is not good with the 35 is that it keeps on stripping the tail gear. its not really a good choice since you will be always replacing the gear.. for the CP2 it does have more tolerance in crashes.. but its a heli that a little too unstable since its light and small.. its harder to fly outside with wind.. another is the tail motor which gets burned easily.. upgrade if a DD will kinda lengthen the motor life...

Pika,

You will need to buy a brushless ESC if you want to change to a brushless motor, brushed motors are DC current and brushless are AC with electronic timing handled by the ESC.

It is also recomended to use a lipo battery if you go brushless, both of these upgrades will offer you more power and efficiency with less total weight than the stock equipment.

I cant give you an answer on the choice of chopper, i have the Walkera 22E and the 36, both bird's have their individual issues, but for the cost of one you can't realy expect a bullet proof product. Sadly a lot of people expect just that, and when they find it is not the case they feel free to bag out the product because it wont fly, most of the time this is due to poor setup and it cant handle a pilot that continualy stick's it into the ground.

the honey bee cp2 comes with Li-Po as stock. a brushless motor for the e-sky costs, like, 20$
so i guess the upgrade will be cheap....
i got heat sinks for tail motors, and i got 3 tail motors, so replacing them won't be a problome, they cost practicly nothing.

i live in a place where most of the time there's no wind/only slight winds
so i guess i'll stick to e-sky

I think you should get the walkera dragonfly #37 SE version. It comes almost completely upgraded with a lipo battery, a brushless motor, and more. It also doesn't have a tail motor so the tail rotor blade is powered by the belt driven system. I'm planning to buy it at www.raidentech.com for $250.
You can check it out at this link:
http://www.raidentech.com/206wadrfly37.html

thankes for the advice
but i live in israel
i could choose between the 35 or the e-sky
i read lots of bad stuff about the 35, like the crappy stock equipment, especially motor and battery, plus i live in a place with no wind, have a basketall hall near my house, so i took the e-sky.
it should be here soon...

Brushless motors are DC not AC. The ESC is what modulates the voltage to act like AC voltage. The end result is a modified sine wave (a mix between a square and sine wave). It's switched by the MOSFETS in the ESC which turns the motor.

I am new to heli's but have years in fixed wing gas and electric. Can the e-sky be upgraded to brushless? It does not appear that the speed control is seperate from the gyro unit. I do not want to spend the $250 for the 37E (+ more LiPos) but I do want to be able to upgrade to brushless (I already have speed controls for brushless) eventually after I break some parts.

Another question: Has anyone used the esky flight sim? Does it have the proper physics for heli's?

Raidentech (nitroplanes) has it for $20

Ryan

Here is a video of an ESKY CP2 with separates... this is from one of the guys from my place.. Currently His CP2 if fully equipped with brushless and separates with Telebee gyro and CC Phoenix ESC

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPG5j34KHRw