H20wned

well Obviously forwards and maybe reverse, left and right turn/traverse and it possible, turret rotation as seen on that panzer IV video I posted. But I'm guessing I'd need a 1/16 scale model if I wanted that and so far I haven't seen anything for less than £50.

thomasjohnmurphy

In the end you get what you pay for. The HL tanks provide all those functions. However the Somke and sound tanks have a more proportional spped control (and smoke and sound)

wackywheelz

1/35 isn't really viable, they're more of an indoor flat-surface runner, not much room for anything. 1/16 is my scale of choice, but if you want a half-decent Panzer IV you have two choices -- convert the cheap 1/18 Panzer IV from 21st Century to better electronics, or spend big and get the (out of production) Bandai Panzer IV.

1/35 just isnt worth it, not even converting a static model - you spend much more in the long run for a tank that can barely tank on pebbles. Personally if I was gonna do it, I'd get a 21st Century Panzer IV, convert to use Heng Long S&S electronics so you have proper control of it... decent enough detail, won't fall to bits...

Pics to follow shortly, of the working room with 1/35 Panzer IV

wackywheelz

As you can see in the following pics, Panzer IV 1/35 isnt very viable without a crapload of work (those japanese static scale kit conversions have had lots of money and time thrown at them), the suspension is thin and wouldnt hold up without extensive mods and small rocks will give it hell.

For scale comparison I have used a standard AA size battery and a blank DVD disk (since everyone has those...). The AA battery JUST fits sideways inside the hull, and the top of the turret is about as high as the upper part of the centre hub/spindle of a DVD sitting upright.

H20wned

Wow, i didn't realise how small 1/35 was. I guess I need one of those panzer IV's from 21st century. Where can I get one?

thomasjohnmurphy

I'm going to be selling mine soon. It's a 21st Century 1/18 panzer IV that has been upgraded to the HL smoke and sound. You can see pics of it on here (they are recent)

thomasjohnmurphy

does anyone know the protocal to transfering pic to a message on here?

wackywheelz

Write a reply (or start a thread), when you're done: just under the box where you write everything it has

" Click here to upload images and files! "

Click that, and up pops a window. Click on the top-most "Browse" and navigate your computer for the image/pic/photo you wish to upload. Once you've clicked it hit open. If you are uploading more photos click the next "Browse" and do the same (find the pic, hit open). Once you're done selecting the pic(s) you wish to upload, hit "OK" and they will begin to transfer to the server. Depending on the size it could take seconds to minutes. I usually make my photos a little smaller (shrink them) so they load quick for everyone (including dialup). Once its all done it will say that its complete, then you hit OK/close.

Go back to where you've typed your reply, then hit OK -- this confirms your reply AND puts your post together with the uploaded pics for everyone to see.

H20wned

So thomasjohnmurphy, how much are you looking to sell your panzer IV for?

thomasjohnmurphy

Ah. I've got it (thank you very much) Here are some pics of my Panzer IV.

fv432

hi h2owned i have succesfuly converted the academy 1/25 panther and jagdpanther to r/c namely hl electronics
if you like the 1/16 better go for the hen long pziii

H20wned

Can I just ask, where do you get heng long electronics? Do you salvage them from tanks you own or do you buy them online?

fv432

the good ole bay (E-bay) look for pugwash the seller there not expensive and you can buy the full s+s set controller drive and rx board plus speaker and smoker for about £35 the same price roughly as a reciever ie futaba so in comparison not bad IMHO
although you will struggle with the speaker and smoker so these are not in my tanks and i modded an old servo to drive the turret.
that said i still favour the hl tanks 1/16 just for there size and eaze of doing things the best hls in my opinion
are pershing (snow leopard)
m41 bulldog
pzIII
and the tiger
there panther or pantiger is O.K if you've never seen a photo of a real one
then you go to tamiyas line up but they are big money but you do get the quality with possibly a few issues

H20wned

Oh right, thanks a lot. Do you have AIM or MSN fv432?

fv432

im on aol which uses instant messenger

H20wned

So is it alright if I add you to ask you a few questions? You can delete me after if you want.

fv432

no probs mate if i can help i will

H20wned

Thanks, so what is your aim screen name? Maybe it's best if you PM it to me.

fv432

pm sent

thomasjohnmurphy

I agree. Get the HL conversion kit (everything you need to convert a tank a proportional speed smoke and sound) I get mine from MATOTOYS in Canada for about $35. You will however need to have a tank with dual gearboxes. As wel, its good to have another HL tank with smoke and sound handy as you will have to soder some wire and will have to have the receiver board to know where they go or you will fry your board. I just got a 1/18 21st Century Panther. It will be quite a challenge to convert that to RC. Wish me luck

YHR

Where did you find that!!!!. I've been looking for one

Turbobearcat

No kidding..let's see some pictures dude!

thomasjohnmurphy

The Panther's come up on ebay quite often. Just search for "1/18 tank" If I could only figure out how to open the thing up without damaging it I could get to converting it.

H20wned

I saw somebody say something about 1:18 scale. Could I convert an 'Ultimate Soldier' Sherman to R/C?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SDKFZ-173-JAGD...QQcmdZViewItem

YHR

You could, but you wouldn't have a working suspension. Honestly, Heng longs are your best bet. I predict you will end up spending at least as much trying any kind of conversion and in the long run you will have less of a tank.