Vic3D

My Feedback: (19)

Hey guys I might be getting a Wildhare Edge soon, please tell me if this is a good setup. I will be flying both IMAC and wild 3D:

Engine: DA-50 with slimline smoke muffler
Prop: Menz 22-10
Servos: Rudder - JR 8611
Elevator - Hitec 5645 each half
Ailerons - Hitec 5645's


I need a good recommendation on batteries also.

Appreciate it!

Josey Wales

My Feedback: (61)

Sounds good so far..

If ya want to go Li-ion I like Fromeco..

Rockyaged

You know the saying, "More than one way to skin a Cat."

Lots of ways to do what you are going to do. What you
have stated is good. Keep in mind that different is not
bad. It's just different.

If you have not ordered the DA50 yet, I suggest you order
the MSC 23 by 8 prop, along with the DA50, if you are getting
the motor from DA. That prop did excellent as a break-in prop.

At 28% in size, 17 or so lbs (with c/f gear, wing and stab tubes)
and 7 servos to drive, you have battery options open to you.
Try to keep it simple. I use three Nickel Metals. No regulators,
no match boxes as when you go to LiPos or LiOns..

Read thru the different threads here. You'll find answers to
questions you haven't thought of yet..

Gerald

Rockyaged

You know the saying, "More than one way to skin a Cat."

Lots of ways to do what you are going to do. What you
have stated is good. Keep in mind that different is not
bad. It's just different.

If you have not ordered the DA50 yet, I suggest you order
the MSC 23 by 8 prop, along with the DA50, if you are getting
the motor from DA. That prop did excellent as a break-in prop.

At 28% in size, 17 or so lbs (with c/f gear, wing and stab tubes)
and 7 servos to drive, you have battery options open to you.
Try to keep it simple. I use three Nickel Metals. No regulators,
no match boxes as when you go to LiPos or LiOns and extra servos.
Read thru the different threads here. You'll find answers to
questions you haven't thought of yet..

Gerald

flier

My Feedback: (7)

2nd vote for the MSC 23 x 8 also.
Pass on the 8611 in favor of the 5955 HiTec.
All HiTec thrugh out.
5945's in place of the 5645's
They center better and with more power.
The Battery setup can go either way.
NiMH for lower cost, or Lithium with regulators.
If your looking for something to put in the next plane, go with the liths. (like Fromeco)
These and the servos will be a good investment then.
Flying IMAC, I'd go for the better setup!

Shogun

My Feedback: (2)

I have mine set up with 5645's on the ailerons and elevators and a 5735 on the rudder, works very well but the 5735 is the weight of 2 standard servos so it's comming out in favor of an 8611 this summer. The 5945 is a better servo than the 5645 is but in these planes the 5645 on 6 volts works great so don't let anyone shy you away from them.

If your gonna be trying to hover this plane think light weight from the beginning. The best way to shave weight is to replace the gear with Tom's fiberglass replacement gear, replace the wing and tail tubes with crabon fiber units and use Lion batteries. Other weight saving ideas are to use Kavans lite wheels, leave off the pants and use titanium axles instead of the du-bros steel one's.

The plane flies great is you don't do ANY of the mods that I have mentioned but finishes out at about 18 lbs which is fine for regular sport flying or IMAC style flying. However, my DA 50 has a tough time 3D'ing at that weight as the plane exhibits all of the bad traits of a heavy plane, harriers rock and it tries to fall out of a hover and can be a handfull. A really good 3D pilot can fly the plane through the maneuvers even at 18 lbs but an amature will struggle with it at the higher wing loading and most likely trash it in the process of learning to 3D with it.

As for props I like the 22 x 8 MenzS hands down for all around flying and definately for break in as it allows the engine to rev up around 7K and really pulls hard. It's currently recommended prop for 3D flying on this plane, especially at the higher weight.

Scoubidou

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For those you have suggested MSC 23x8, what kind of RPM can we expect with the DA-50 and slimline muffler? These MSC props are a lot of load!!

rctom

Wing rock is caused by the rudder being blanked out during descent. Balancing laterally helps but the main fix is to move the h-stabs out of the way like on a Cap. It has little/nothing to do with weight. This is why they will do beautiful inverted harriers, the rudder is out in clear air.

As for hovering, what possible relationship can there be between hovering and wing loading? The plane is pointed straight up and hanging on the prop, you could take the wings off and still hover it. They serve to stabilize the plane in a hover but wing area is not very critical in this situation.

Weight <> power plays a large part, but not weight <> win area.

TF

Shogun

My Feedback: (2)

Sorry if that post came across as a slam on the Edge, I REALLY love the model but Like I said mine is on the heavy side and it shows. That is NOT Wild Hare's fault, it's mine for using heavy components during assembly.

I have mine laterally balanced dead on and it helped a lot but at the higher wing loading the stall characteristics of the wing change and IME that can make or break 3D flight characteristics pretty quickly.

Would anyone argue that a lighter airplane is harder to hover than a heavy one is? No way, light wins hands down, the lighter then better. Mine will hover but my 50 will JUST pull it out of a hover on a warm day so I'm pretty leery about getting into a bad situation with it and not having the power to yank it out. Again that's a weight issue, WITH MY PLANE, it will get better but I'm gonna have to spend a few bucks to lighten her up.

rctom

We are in agreement.

TF