So I just ordered the 85" CAP. Now I'm thinking this airplane might be amazing with an engine lighter than my stock G62. I'm thinking the Brison 3.2
What do you guys think?

way to go

very good motors at 3.25 lbs run the J & H peacekeeper and you would love that sound very quiet set up unless you run a cannister

You're making a very good choice in engine selection. Although the 3.2 will provide a little less power than the G-62, the weight saved will be very beneficial to the quality of flight.

Very good engine and you will enjoy it on that plane.

Hello guys, I am looking for some specs on the 3.2. I have just purchased one from the guy in NY and was wondering what prop is working and what the everyones is seeing on the thrust side?

Let me know

Thanks.
CodemanX

MSC 22x8. 6600rpm on the ground... plenty for the MSC prop. I don't have the thrust figures, but vertical on my edge was very good. Hover, and pull out was solid. My Edge weighed under 18 pounds with the Brison.

Don't bother with rpm numbers. They don't mean a thing. Thrust is always a must, and for the Brison 3.2 the MSC 22-8 always works great.

Where the heck did that come from?????????[X(]

The MSc is the best prop I've found for 3D using the Brison 3.2. Frieshoo hit the mark dead on.

I sold my Brison 3.2 to a RCU member. It's a stump-puller. He mounted it in his plane and tested the thrust with a digital scale. The 3.2 pulled 26 lbs. 8 ounces. The engine is on it's 4th or 5th gallon. It has a Bisson pitts with the tips cut off. Kinda wish I had it yet. I broke it in on Stihl chainsaw oil and switched to Amzoil 80-1.

Poor you. That engine hadn't even broken in yet. None of mine have come into their prime until after about 15 gallons or so.

I run MSC 22/8 on my 2 Brisons also one of a Texas Hurricane and the other on a Lanier Stinger , stump pullers for sure .

Thanks guys.,. I am putting this on the new GP Ultimate.. I hope this pulls my plane around very well..

I plan to use the Pro-flite 22x8 prop.. and hope to get 25-26 pounds of thrust after some break in...

I will keep you guys posted on what I get with my new 3.2.

CodemanX

Ya know that Tom markets a very nice Ultimate that's fully 3D capable when you get tired of the GP product. That 3.2 Brison powers it quite nicely

Yes, I know.....I bought a never run OCT. 2005 3.2 model a couple weeks later. I was going to get Taurus, but I couldn't pass the deal on the Brison. I hope I can get it to run as nicely as my old one.

Brison 3.2
J & H Peacekeeper

21 x 8 Bolly 8400
21 x 10 Mejzlik 7300-7400
21 x 10 Menz 6700-6800
22 x 8 Menz 7100-7200
22 x 8 Mejzlik 7100-7150
22 x 8 Bambula 6750-6930
22 x 10RCS 6150-6300
23 x 8 Mejzlik 6240-6300

You should hit about 6,700-6,800 with an MSC 22-8. Those numbers may sound low but don't forget you're looking for thrust, and that rpm IS NOT EVER a good indication of thrust. At 67-6,800 that Brison/MSC combination will have more thrust than any of the combinations previously noted.

Thanks guys.. I am just hoping that the Brison pull my GP Ultimate Tank around.. I am going to be in the 15.5 - 16.5 lbs range..

I can tell you guys that I am very happy with Brison this far.. I had a little issue with damage during shipping and they made good on this the next day! That is not a normal thing.. I am super happy!

Anwyway, thanks again for all your input.

CodemanX

At 16.5 pounds that Brison will go straight up until you either run out of gas or the density altitude changes enough to screw up the mixture. I have a hunch that you, and many others, don't know that you can't get a stronger engine than that 3.2 unless you go larger in cc's or with a Taurus 3.2. I've played with a bunch of them, including the "class leader" and the Brison 3.2 is the best bang for the buck and only marginally behind the Taurus. It's too bad things didn't work out for Brison.

You will be absolutely amazed at the performance level of your combination.

Silversurfer, I'm the guy who sold his prized Brison 3.2. It turned the MSC 22x8, 6950 rpm, over 26.8 pounds of thrust!! It was the best one around here. I hope my new one is as strong. I feel the same as you about Brison.

Marzo,

I hope it's as good too.

I have to say, tho, that my statements about the output of the Brison weren't based on feelings, but based on actual "hands on" experience with numerous engines. There may be some that think or thought I may have been a rep for Brison, but that was never the case by any means. To this day, I will not speak highly of any company or person whose products or actions fail to warrant such respect and/or referral. That's one of the reasons I spend so much time here on the Wild Hare Forum. A class act and they take care of their customers and their needs.

I can vounch for what Pat - Silversurfer is saying and believe he knows what he is talking about . I once ask him to type and lay out instructions for setting controls and cg up on the WIldhare Extra Special . He sent me a long typed out instruction page that required lots of patience and time to set up. Anyway his opinions on cg set up power to weight ratios are right on the money. My 2 cents worth

i have moved my brison 3.2 around on planes and can tell u at 19+lbs with a 22 x 8 i still had unlimited + the power to T-roll []

Is brison still around. I was at thier Dallas location last week and they had shut down all production there?? Im kinda glad I unloaded my 6.4 when I did.

Read the post, "Will Brison Survive." You'll see most of what has happened. No need to, "unload" any of their engines. There will always be people happy to buy Brison engines. IMO, there may be only one engine in the 50cc size as good or better.

"Unloading" your 6.4 was a tremendous opportunity for whoever picked it up, and a great loss for you. Extreme reliability, high power output, and lighter all up weight over a DA100. They don't ever break down if treated half way correctly. I have three Brison engines and won't begin to consider letting any of them go. Service of the Brison line is still performed by the founder, Gary Allison. Should he ever fail to be available, I would think that Taurus, Fox, and RCIGN would be able to easily pick up the slack in service. I would hope that Kangke will be able to maintain a good service policy and proceedures for the Brison line, tho.

The only reason that DA maintained the market share was due to the quantity of advertising dollars spent, the willingness to employ a few extra people to increase productivity, superb customer service, and effective record keeping. That could be related as an understanding of sound business practices, the lack of which was the downfall of Brison. Sorry to be so blunt, but I feel that it's the truth.

BME could capitalize on the lessons learned by Brison and exemplified by DA if he wanted to corner the market in the 100-116cc class of engines. The power to weight ratio of the BME 110 is better than anything currently available, IMO. Reliability is right up there, too.

Pat

I sold my 6.4 a while back after I heard hard times were in the near future. Dont get me wrong I will not bad talk the engine in no way. However I did take a bath on it. I enjoy being able to talk to the maker if something goes wrong.