mycarisaser

Hey I just bought a new hyperion extra 260 40e from allerc for like $114.00. Cant wait for it to come in! It should be here tomarrow or saterday. Well I was wondering if any of you have one and was wondering if a 5s 4350 polyrc lipo would fit(its 160x45x42mm and 550grams) I am going to use 4 hs-225mg servos, hxt 50x55 600kv motor, castle ubec, and venom 120esc(until I get the hyperion 80amp switching bec esc) Also using a futaba 6channel 2.4ghz radio. I had all this equipment in a texasrcplanes pole cat 50 and it flew great even at 5pounds 10 oz. I do hope I can get the 260 to be around 5lbs or so. I am very excited and cant wait to have a plane that may be capable of 3d so I can see what its all about[sm=confused_smile.gif]. Hope I dont crash it.
Any advice or build tip would be greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance.

patnchris

Reinforce the landing gear mounting area. I have the YAK 40E and a friend has the Edge 40E and both suffered failures in this area. I assume that yours will be of similar construction....Pat

mycarisaser

patnchris, Will do. What did you do to the landing gear mounts to make them stronger? Thanks for the heads up.

mycarisaser

Got the plane today. I see why you had to reinforce the gear mounts. Its a bit thin. Well the plane came looking bad. The seems are all lifting and bubbles everywhere. Also the white covering is becomeing transparent b/c the whiteness is sticking to the balse and the covering isnt. I have never had to work with any type of covering before so I dont have a clue how to atempt to fix it. But it isnt flyable at the moment b/c the covering would fall off. I am very upset that this plane came in such bad shape. My flymodels polecat 50 and cmp p51 mustang came with a pic perfect finish. Just my luck. Oh a 5s 4350 wont fit under the the wing tube either(oh well)

mycarisaser

Well I used my wifes iron and got the covering looking good and all the seams down. I had to use 1.75 oz of weight in the tail b/c the battery wont slide under the tube. No big deal though(when I get a new battery I will get one that fits so I can take the lead off). With no wind this morning I took it out for the maiden- - - WOW it flew great. I didnt do much speacial other than a few laps, climbs and loops and rolls. What a good flying plane. I got home from work this afternoon and the wind picked up to 18-25+mph and I took it up to see how it would fair. All I can say is that it doesnt like that much wind. I blew it all over the place(it was kind of gusty out though)

One thing This thing doesnt like to land it just floats forever. My field in front of my house is 1400x500 ft or more and I took up 1/2 the length trying to get her down. I guess I need to do some practice landing . Over all I am very pleased with how it came out and if I can get a smaller battery like a 3700mah I can drop another 5 oz or so off the plane[sm=shades_smile.gif].

mycarisaser

Got it weighed today= 5pounds 3 oz. I need to put it on a diet

victorzamora

I'm definitely re-opening this dead thread, but I had a question.

I know I really shouldn't do this, but I got the Hyperion Extra 260 40e for the same great deal. I decided I wanted it more for a solid-flying IMAC beater plane. I'm considering going with just standard servos on the plane (major sin, I know). What do y'all think about this set-up? This is going to be my second electric plane (my first is a 16oz foamy), but I'm trying to stay cheap. If it's going to cost too much, I might just go with the 46AX I've got (but that's a lot of work). Anywho, what do you think about this:

4S1P/5S1P 5000mAh Zippy Lipos
Scorpion 3026-12
E-Flite 60A ESC
Standard servos
Futaba 7C FASST Rx

mycarisaser

I ended up with mine weighing in at 4 pounds 10 oz with 1300watts on tap!!!!!!!(it had crazy amounts of power) I got a fp3200 5s 30c to fit under the tube so I could take off the weights. Its a good flying plane but has some issues doing 3d(more of a presicion plane). I just lost my plane due to my venom 120amp esc dieing in mid flight causing the battery and the radio to short out.(it wasnt preety). This plane will be missed

I dont see an issue using standard servos as long as you dont set it up for 3d and dont try to kill the sticks!!! Enjoy its a nice plane that looks and flys nice.

victorzamora

I'm sooo sorry to hear about your crash. Thanks for the advice. I just put together (and maidened) an Aeroworks Extra 60-90 and am planning on using that as my 3d plane (I went WAY overkill with servo selection for both speed and torque. it's awesome). I'm flying a Pulse 40 right now, but I saw this plane recently and I got it for my birthday. After seeing how pretty the plane is, I want to treat it like it deserves to be treated with a nice e-setup and nice HT/HS mini servos and whatnot...but lack the funds. I'm going to use it to replace my Pulse (same equipment and whatnot), but I might have to put an electron-burning setup in it. That 1300W sounds impressive! I've changed my mind about the set-up thanks to Motocalc and a bit of my own changes. I'm really just planning on flying it around like a beater IMAC plane, but mostly just a decent sport flier. I'm thinking about going 4S but higher capacity cells to keep weight down but increase flight time. Since I don't want 3d, just solid pattern flying, I don't really need the extra thrust. I may get a 3S pack to add to one of my 2S packs and run 5S farther down the road.

Scorpion 4020-12 (542kv) (or e-flite power 46)
2x 2S1P 3700mAh
E-Flite 60A ESC

mycarisaser

The park 46 doesnt like to be pushed on 5s at all. I killed 2 of the with just a 12x8 prop on 5s = alittle over 900watts. My(cheaper) hxt 50x55 600kv handled the 15x8 and 1300watts. From what I hear scorpion motors are top notch and the specs on that one look awsome. There is a huge thread on this plane over on rcgroups.com in the 3d section.

I used the hs225mg servos for this plane and they worked great(more than enough power as well as very light)

If it was me to keep weight down I would go with the Scorpion 3026-12 on 4s with say a 13x6.5 to 13x8 prop. The plane would only be around an auw of 4 pounds and thats about 200watts a pound(lots of power to do anything) with that motor. You really want to keep it light as possiable or you will have unwanted snap tendencies.

mycarisaser

Forgot to add you dont really want any less than an 80amp esc in her either. Just a thought. Either of them scorpion motor would tax a 60amp esc

victorzamora

I'm really underwhelmed by the thrust numbers I'm getting from Motocalc. I plugged in the Scorpion 3026-12 as suggested, and with the APC 13x8E it was only showing 83oz of thrust. That's only 5.2lbs of thrust. With a 13x6 it's only showing 90.6oz (5.66lbs). Also, it only showed the motor pulling 49.6A. It's showing 610W, which is a little anemic...isn't it? Am I doing something wrong?

Thanks for the RCG tip, I'll check that out asap. Also, I'm thinking about the 90A Scorpion ESC.

victorzamora

I just found this: http://www.scorpionsystem.com/files/i489_data_chart.htm
It says that the 3026-12 with a 4S lipo and a 13x6.5E it puts out 114.53oz of thrust.

I'm also considering the Hyperion Z4020-??

mycarisaser

The electric motor calc that I am using shows the 3226 to be almost exactly the same as the # in the link you posted. On 4s it would be perfect. The stock hyperion motor,the larger scorpion, and the park 46 motors are too big and heavy to be flown on 4s. At that size it NEEDS to be on 5s or the plane will feel really sluggish

So a plane that will only weigh in at a scant 64oz and the 3226-12 puts out around 114oz of thrust static(In flight it will drop to about 87oz but thats at full speed of 60+mph) so the slower you are going the more thrust you will make(hope that makes sence). I guess I am trying to say that motor will ahve plunty of power and thrust for that plane

mycarisaser

I have seen the extra flown 3D with the park 32 in it b/c it was so light!!!

victorzamora

I think I've found a winner!!!!

Hyperion Z4020-12
Waypoint 90A ESC (or Scorpion if the Waypoint is good quality)
2x 2S1P 3700mAh Lipo's
4x3004's
APC 15x8E

This set-up pulls 66A, at 14.8V that means 977W of power. That's exactly the kind of set-up I'm looking for, and especially for $220 fully set-up minus Sx's and Rx

victorzamora

About the Park 32, I've just been told that I should look into a lighter set-up. If I go with the lighter set-up, I think that 4S1P 2500mAh pack turning a Hyperion 3025-10 and a 13x6 would be a good combo. I could go with a lighter 60A esc, too. Which way do y'all think is the better way to go?

mycarisaser

I would go for the lighter set up. I think that would be your winner

victorzamora

Alrighty, that sounds like my options are now either my Light Lekky set-up or the Glow set-up. The advantage to lekky would be reliability and weight, glow is more consecutive flights.

victorzamora

Another advantage to glow is it's cheaper. Another advantage of lekky is less work.

victorzamora

Well I got my shipment in today. I'm still at college, but I'll be there to fool with it next weekend. I'm really excited about it!!

mycarisaser

Dont forget the pics

victorzamora

I'll try my hardest not to.

victorzamora

Mkay, I'm going to start building tonight...but first, I've got a question. The ESC I bought doesn't have a BEC, so I bought a UBEC for it. How do I hook them up?

mycarisaser

It hooks up to the battery on one end(I soldered mine to the esc plug that plugs into the battery) and the other end goes to the spot (that says batt) on the reciver