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Old 09-27-2009, 08:07 PM
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Default Broken bell crank.

Once again, I have another broken part. I fired up my Volcano today and went to play with it. I had little to nothing on my steering. So, I get it over to me and find out that the bell crank is broken down near the bottom where it is on the chassis. Super glue didn't work. It just broke again. So what are my options? Is aluminum a better piece for this? Or do I need to do something else? How it broke I have no clue. May have been when I hit the curb and bent the chassis. Just didn't show up until today.
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Default RE: Broken bell crank.

Yes the Aluminum bell crank is good to do and is alot stronger then the stock plastic. http://www.urchobby.com/proddetail.php?prod=122057
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Default RE: Broken bell crank.

http://www.shop.redcatracingproducts...set-122057.htm And yes ofcourse aluminum is way stronger than plastic.
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http://www.shop.redcatracingproducts...set-122057.htm And yes ofcourse aluminum is way stronger than plastic.
WOW, It says you have over 100,000 of them instock.
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I can't find a pic of it. Anywhere! Would yall happen to have some? That away I can tell you exactly what it is and we can go from there? Thanks. I'm not sure what it is exactly. I just know it has to do with the steering. It is the piece on the servo side on the bolt that sticks up. There is one on the tank side also but it is different. Then there are some turnbuckles that mount to them and then to the spindles that the tires mount to. Is this clear enough. I'd put up a pic but for some reason my camera and laptop don't like each other today.
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I can't find a pic of it. Anywhere! Would yall happen to have some? That away I can tell you exactly what it is and we can go from there? Thanks. I'm not sure what it is exactly. I just know it has to do with the steering. It is the piece on the servo side on the bolt that sticks up. There is one on the tank side also but it is different. Then there are some turnbuckles that mount to them and then to the spindles that the tires mount to. Is this clear enough. I'd put up a pic but for some reason my camera and laptop don't like each other today.
Here you go. Here is the aluminum setup
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Old 09-28-2009, 01:22 PM
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Is that for both sides? That is what I need then if it is. Are there any more items to go with that?
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Yes it does both sides. The only other item you can get is the aluminum steering link (Ackerman plate) that is the bar that connects from one bell crank to the other. I just sold my last one this past weekend but will have more in a few days it is part number 122040
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Ok. Where do I go?
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Default RE: Broken bell crank.

To get the aluminum steering kit that's pictured?.. Here ya go: UnlimitedRCHobby I see he posted that he was out of the "ackerman" arm, but I think he has the part #122057 that's pictured, in stock..

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It is a done deal. Ordered it last night. Kurt is also making me a list of upgrades that will make my Volcano a bit stronger. That is very helpful. Just have to wait on the Acherman arm now. Mine isn't broken. Just the bell crank. So, I hope to be able to run it soon.
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Default RE: Broken bell crank.

I found this while googling.

02075 Steering Bell Crank
http://allaboutfunhobbies.com/store/...products_id/49

02025 Servo Saver Set
http://allaboutfunhobbies.com/store/...oducts_id/1013

Can I use the left bell crank in replacement for the right (w/servo saver) because I am already using a servo saver on the steering servo?

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After further investigation, I've noticed that the one part looks like it is in 2 pieces. Just like in URCHobby's post pic. Is it supposed to look like this? Do I need to tighten something or what? I'm confused now. LOL. I know what mine looks like now. I just don't have a pic of it on the vehicle. I thought a servo saver went on the servo. Not the bell crank. I don't know so that is why I'm asking. This is a great forum with very helpful people. I hope to be as knowledgeable as yall some day.
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The servo saver is on your bell crank up in the front where your tie rods hook up. If you turn the steering on you remote and the front wheels don't want to turn but you see the servo arm it self is traveling and the servo saver is separating and not moving then you can tighten the knurled nut on top of the servo saver and this tightens the spring for the servo saver. They do loosen up over time. Yea some cars do have the servo saver on the servo arm that is attached to the servo. Many new cars like yours have the servo saver built into the bell crank setup.
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Yeah, the servo saver built into the bell crank I think over time will loosen up even after tightening it back up. I threadlocked the adjustable silver "screw" so it will stay in place. It's also important not to over tighten it, you will have to leave some slack for the saver to do its job.



i looked at the bell cranks again, opps i guess the left bell crank can't be used on the right due to it having only one arm instead of two on the right.
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Old 09-29-2009, 02:35 PM
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Ok. So mine isn't broken. Just loose. Then I can play with it still. Good. I still want the aluminum parts though. I'll take a look at it when I get home. I hope so. I really like to run this thing and get to know it better. That away when I get to the track I'm better and better. Now I'm confused. I took this Volcano apart. I had to replace the chassis. You would think I would have noticed this. The bolt/screw that it goes on to is a pain to get out of the chassis. I would think I would have noticed it. So I need to just tighten that nut thing on top of the bellcrank?
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Yes just tighten the nut but not too much that it locks it completely solid. You want it to have a little spring play, so if you hit anything with the front tire it does not strip your steering servo gears.
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Ok. Got it. Now to mess with it when I get home. YAY!
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Ok. Here it goes. I found the problem. Once again I'm tired of all of this broken stuff. Any ways, I took it all apart. Found that the adjustment thing for the spring is stuck on so tight that I had to use the vise to get it off. So now the sleeve that the bell crank/servo saver rests/rides on is toast. So I need that also. Then I turned on the thing to check out the servo. It goes all the way to the ESC/battery box and hits it. So I opened it up and found the gears were all stripped. So now I need 2 more parts. I would like to go with a better servo. I'm not sure about that sleeve thing. I can't find it anywhere. This is just great. What is next?
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This is just great. What is next?
Hehe.. (sorry to laugh, but we've all been throughthe same thing)Welcome to the wonderful world of RC cars!!Next to go will probably be the next plastic piece down, from the aluminum stuff.. I dont like to go all aluminum though,cause once it gets so ridig with all thealuminum, then the aluminum stuff breaks, and then it gets even more expensive.. The only real downside torunning these Redcat products is that we have to order all our parts.. The HP and Traxxas, AE, ect. stuff can usually be bought at theLHS, but they all break if ya play with em' enough..Once ya get so your not hittin curbs and stuff it'll be alot easier on thewallet!!Good luck!!!
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Ok. Here it goes. I found the problem. Once again I'm tired of all of this broken stuff. Any ways, I took it all apart. Found that the adjustment thing for the spring is stuck on so tight that I had to use the vise to get it off. So now the sleeve that the bell crank/servo saver rests/rides on is toast. So I need that also. Then I turned on the thing to check out the servo. It goes all the way to the ESC/battery box and hits it. So I opened it up and found the gears were all stripped. So now I need 2 more parts. I would like to go with a better servo. I'm not sure about that sleeve thing. I can't find it anywhere. This is just great. What is next?
Bill is this what you need to get you up and going?
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Old 09-30-2009, 08:11 AM
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Yes that will do it. I PMed you Kurt. I'm going to get the servo here locally. I'm going for an all metal geared servo. I hope I can get one that is inexpensive. I have no clue as to what to buy. If you don't think that this is bad, my Rustler also has a bad servo and receiver. I haven't used it at all since I got the new receiver and Sidewinder System. I turned it on and the ESC had all of the LED's flashing. So since they are both down, I put the Redcat receiver in the Rustler to test and the ESC worked. If it isn't one thing with me it is something else. Amazing isn't it? You know, there is good luck and bad luck. I've heard people say I'd rather have bad luck than no luck at all. Well, I have no luck at ALL! None!
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I sent you out the servo any way. Let me know if you need anything else.
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I do and will. All I can say is thanks. I don't know what else to do. You are the dude. My support to you now.
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I'm pissed off now. I got the bellcrank/servo saver and servo in. Got it all put back together and fired it up. Besides it dieing every once and awhile it lost steering again. I could hear some popping noises. So I go and get it and notice that servo is popping. Which ever way I move the wheels. It moves but pops and stutters. So I take it back apart and remove the servo. Open it up and one of the gears is stripped. JUST GREAT! Brand new and already broken. WTH? I took some pic's. Maybe yall can tell what I'm doing wrong or what is wrong. I have 2 questions. Is the Ackerman arm supposed to be tightly screwed to the bell crank? Are the turnbuckles supposed to be on top of the arm by the wheel of below it? Now for the pic's.
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