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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

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    I have about 250 various Saito picture and was looking for a picture of the ''fire hose nozzle'' muffler that came with my 1.50. I may have deleted the picture since I only run a TurboHeader on it now. I
    What the heck does a ''fire hose nozzle muffler'' look like?


    It is my favorite kind. this one has a few dents and needs a nipple repaired, thats what happens when they get older. Right Old Fart?
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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !


    ORIGINAL: jkr_1100

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    ORIGINAL: Hobbsy

    I have about 250 various Saito picture and was looking for a picture of the ''fire hose nozzle'' muffler that came with my 1.50. I may have deleted the picture since I only run a TurboHeader on it now. I
    What the heck does a ''fire hose nozzle muffler'' look like?


    It is my favorite kind. this one has a few dents and needs a nipple repaired, thats what happens when they get older. Right Old Fart?

    Ahah! That's the muffler that was on my 1st 150.

    It vibrated loose in mid flight over standing corn & was never seen (or heard from) again.
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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    has anyone attached a perry fuel pump to an sa100? I attached it per the diagram, and my question is did you have to do a lot of adjustment to the pump to get hte right pressure?
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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !


    ORIGINAL: airborne14830

    has anyone attached a perry fuel pump to an sa100? I attached it per the diagram, and my question is did you have to do a lot of adjustment to the pump to get hte right pressure?
    I run one of the ocsilatimg Perry pumps on an FA150 because the tank is remotely located over the CG.

    Are you talking about the ocsilating pump or the 1 that operates from engine crankcase pulse?
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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !


    ORIGINAL: jkr_1100

    just finished reading it all, 23,120 posts, 925 pages.

    I now know what the reward is. - being able to contribute and reply as part of the current discussion.

    I was taking my 5 year old daughter to school, she is in Kindergarten at a Lutheran church here, on the wall is a baptismal chart listing names. one caught my eye. William L. Robison

    Cheers.
    Nice post jkr.I've saved that picture of the apple sauce?? undercarriage wheel,it's funny.Hows the prop torque?
    Watch out for the ground eh?

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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !


    ORIGINAL: Old Fart


    ORIGINAL: jkr_1100

    just finished reading it all, 23,120 posts, 925 pages.

    I now know what the reward is. - being able to contribute and reply as part of the current discussion.

    I was taking my 5 year old daughter to school, she is in Kindergarten at a Lutheran church here, on the wall is a baptismal chart listing names. one caught my eye. William L. Robison

    Cheers.
    Nice post jkr.I've saved that picture of the apple sauce?? undercarriage wheel,it's funny.Hows the prop torque?
    well you stick a rod in the hole on the prop nut. then hold the prop and twist like h3LL
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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    Club Saito....I love them all ! Capt,n
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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    Are you running the VP-20 shaker or -30 pulse pump? If you have the -20 you need to have it mounted horizontal.
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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    Which version of 270 twin is of a newer design - the one with intake and exhaust ports looking back and carb on the back?
    What are other design and technical differences between these two?

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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    If he's running the shaker you should have tuned the engine by now and then add the pump.Reason being is the pump is just run at slight pressure when you move the tank back,it's an aid not a bandaid for tuning problems you may already have.They are very reliable too.
    Watch out for the ground eh?

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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    ORIGINAL: Old Fart

    If he's running the shaker you should have tuned the engine by now and then add the pump.Reason being is the pump is just run at slight pressure when you move the tank back,it's an aid not a bandaid for tuning problems you may already have.They are very reliable too.
    I still use the muffler tap pressure W/the pump adjustment turned in so there is, as you say, slight pressure.

    I have used that set-up for many flights in my 89" Dyynaflite PT-19. I never had any issues W/fuel delivery.

    The fuel tank is centered above the CG. The C&H ignition module & battery for same is located in the compartment behind the engine. Locating the tank over the CG not only made room for these components, the CG never changes W/the amount of fuel in the tank. It also makes access to the tank fittings & fuel lines easier to access.

    All the pump does is maintain a consistant fuel delivery to the carburetor. The muffler tap pressure is pushing the fuel, the oscelating pump pulling.
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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    ORIGINAL: Vyciukas3045

    Which version of 270 twin is of a newer design - the one with intake and exhaust ports looking back and carb on the back?
    What are other design and technical differences between these two?


    The 1st question you answered yourself. They still use that configuration on the FA300T that replaced the 270.

    I was never aware of the other type FA270T.

    From the looks of the pictures, it seems like the only difference would be the cylinders as well as the intake manifold. The cam housings on both are the newer high case style.

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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    Anyone have that Saito 57cc Twin?
    Is it as sweet as I have to assume it must be?

    How wonderful would it be in the 50cc Revolver? Very wonderful? I agree.
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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    Mine is a Perry VP-30 that runs from the crankcase.
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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    ORIGINAL: mike early

    Anyone have that Saito 57cc Twin?
    Is it as sweet as I have to assume it must be?

    How wonderful would it be in the 50cc Revolver? Very wonderful? I agree.

    There is A THREAD DIDICATED TO THE FG57 over on the gas engine forum.
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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    I have a saito 90 TS twin i bought a while back, was looking at taking out the glo plugs but my wrench doesn't fit too in the head too well, was using an OS long reach glo plug wrench. Is there some sort of special plug wrench for saito engines?

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    ORIGINAL: swify

    I have a saito 90 TS twin i bought a while back, was looking at taking out the glo plugs but my wrench doesn't fit too in the head too well, was using an OS long reach glo plug wrench. Is there some sort of special plug wrench for saito engines?
    A thin wall 1/4" drive 5/16" or 8MM socket will get in where a glow plug wrench won't.
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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    I use the Fox four way plug wrench, it also has 3/8, 7/16 and .5".
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    This afternoon I flew the Satio 180 on 5% fuel ( it's all I had, ran out of 15% ) that is in mt 150 size Hanger 9 P-51 It has an 18x6 Vess prop on it and turned 8045 rpm's ( the sweet spot ) not to rich and not to lean. Does this sound like a good rpm for this motor with the 18x6 prop on it ?
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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    Original FA-270T had an M-8X1.25 thread and Roll Pins on the Prop Shaft, and leatherette washers for the Prop Hub.
    It had a Muffler (with two straight parallel exhaust pipes) connected with flange nuts to the L-shaped exhaust pipes from the cylinders,
    and two small tubes on the bottom (one for pressure, one for smoke). It also had two breather nipples on the bottom of the Case.
    The Intake Pipes were on the sides of the cylinders, and the X-shaped Engine Mount was about 10mm thick.

    Later version (mine is MK II with production code A embossed on the bottom of the Case near the backplate) has a 10-32 threaded shaft,
    roll pins and leatherette washers, no muffler, two longer exhaust pipes (clamped together) with the two smaller tubes on one pipe, only one
    breather nipple on the bottom of the case 30mm behind the Prop Hub, and the Engine Mount is only 3mm thick.

    Both of these have choke slide plates on the Carburetor, but no Velocity Stack or round Engine Mounts.

    Note: The Roll Pins on your Prop Hub appear to be bent (as mine were). Take great care in removing them - lateral pressure on the Hub can
    cause it to bind on the Shaft (as mine did).
    Note 2: On all engines not being used (no Prop on the Shaft), I use tubing between Hub and Washer to prevent loss of Woodruff Key.

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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    About what year would that have been with the leatherette prop hub washer? That is interesting.

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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !


    ORIGINAL: Ernie Misner

    About what year would that have been with the leatherette prop hub washer? That is interesting.

    My FA300TTDP purchased in 1997 also had the leatherette prop hub washers.
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    ORIGINAL: kenh3497


    ORIGINAL: Hobbsy

    Ken, does it have a letter designator on the right lug, that will come closer to telling you when it was made. My very first gen 1.50 has no letter on the right lug nor does my first gen .80.

    It has a letter ''F'' on the lug.

    My search has turned up nothing. So where do i go to find out the age of my 120.

    Thanks

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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !

    Do you know what color of box it came in, this .65 is an 80s engine, the .65 is later, maybe late 90s.
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    Starter=V-4 pony motor.

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    RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !


    ORIGINAL: Hobbsy

    Do you know what color of box it came in, this .65 is an 80s engine, the .65 is later, maybe late 90s.

    have you ever run that .65? that looks NIB
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