macleote

it misses impartiality but it is the batch of all (maybe not as much as that )

obi1

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Hi thef , thats a big big bowl of excrement your starting to stir there!! whover thou shall be ( and herbertdesigns) have aired your views seriously prematurely, the competition is not even finished and accusations are everywhere, hope that wasn't deliberate!!
Anyway, be fair to just wait till you get complete feedback from the US team etc.

Doug Cronkhite

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Hmm.. nobody sees a slight conflict of interest here that Onda is Naruke's protoge? That he coaches his flying every day?

Troy Newman

Guys lets not go there at all.

There can always be made accusations and the look of bias is always going to be present.

There are 20 judges...If one was extremely bias in a single round well he was not judging the other round as they were divided into two groups of 10. Onda had a 991 in one round and a 976 in the other...The difference to get a 976 instead of a 991 is about 1 pt on a single figure of K5

Politics is part of the game, and it is my firm belief that every judge sitting in the chair regardless of the NATS, TEAMS, Worlds, or even the local contest puts forth his best effort in the chair. Some may not agree with that effort....

This is why TBL is used to help eliminate Judging bias and create a judge rating to evaluate the judges.

We are all sitting here at home....They are there flying and judging. None of us Saw the flights, and if we did we couldn't agree on their outcome anyways. The Worlds has chosen 20 judges from around the world to make the decision.

The effect that any one judge might have is pretty small and after TBL I bet its nearly nothing.

Its bad taste to complain about a judges result. Its not our job. I will also say that my opinion is that the judge in question is of the highest character, and integrity. I will say the same for other judges that I know have been there. Earl Haury, Don Ramsey, Mike Dunphy....and others that I have known.

They are working for the best result and striving to get the pilots classified correctly. Their job is to find fault....They count the errors and record the result for each and every figure. It is not our place to find fault with their result.

If there is a problem TBL will show it and the contest management can act on such things just like they did back after the 1995 Worlds in Japan.

Congrats to all finalists

Good Luck to all of you!

Go Chip and Jason!

Troy Newman

piotrekpepe

Results after 3 rounds (F-05, Unknown 1, F-05) - NOT OFFICIAL:
1.CPLR
2. T . Onda
3. C. Hyde
4. R. Matt
5. Akiba

Piotr Swiderek
www.swiderek-f3a.prv.pl

piotrekpepe

FINISH RESULTS IN A MOMENT AT: www.swiderek-f3a.prv.pl
PLEASE REFRESH NON STOP!!!!

Aladdin

Great job Piotr!!!

macleote

Many errors In your results i think:


1- CPLR 2000pts
2- Onda 1948
3- Matt r. 1891
4- Hyde 1871
5- BPLR 1856
6- Schulman 1851
7- Akiba 1838
8- Suzuki 1821
9- Silvestri 1804
10- Matt W. 1729

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HTTP://forumf3a.cabb41.net

piotrekpepe

Waiting for official results...

piotrekpepe

Some official results: www.swiderek-f3a.prv.pl
Please refresh non stop!

macleote

1- CPLR 2000pts
2- Onda 1948
3- Matt r. 1891
4- Hyde 1871
5- BPLR 1856
6- Schulman 1851
7- Akiba 1838
8- Suzuki 1821
9- Silvestri 1804
10- Matt W. 1729


this is the official.......


Other thing, Christophe have a YS170 on his Oxalys and not a 160.....

piotrekpepe

Thanks

Cdallas2

Looks like Christophe has won according to the french site

http://forumf3a.cabb41.net/portal.php

Congrats to all....

bwick

Hasn't been 24 hours and we've already got a copy cat! You can see the proffesional installation and construction methods used to attach the advanced air flow deflector, he must be an expert! This guy's going to be a major threat next year, watch out!

the hobbyman

Acrobat is a changed man, both he and his mate Smouty say these models knife edge awsome now!

piotrekpepe

Hello!!
Some error in results!
Official results from http://www.world-championships-f3a.com is:
1. CPLR
2.T. ONDA
3. R. MATT
4. C. HYDE
5. BPLR
6. J. SHULMAN
7. K. SUZUKI ( NO AKIBA!!)
8. Y. AKIBA (NO SUZUKI)
9. S. SILVESTRI
10. W. MATT

Please see it: http://www.billeau.nom.fr/world_2005...0A4-27spdf.pdf

Piotr Swiderek
www.swiderek-f3a.prv.pl

Acrobat

It does improve the knife edge and the spin in a placebo kinda way. The little wing must completely overide the main wing even though its ten times smaller, and acts as an overiding keel all in the huge prop wash amazing . Its a shame f1 cars aerodynamics dont have a huge prop wash improving there little tweeks performance as well pfffft lol.

The Caprice, the Success biplane and the little wing on the top of your model keep going CPLR you get funnier every 2 years with your decoys lol.

3D_FLYER-RCU

I COULDNT BELIVE HOW MUTCH FLATTER IT MADE THE SPINS........ PPFFFFFT

MTK

Piotr, in one of your photos, it looks like one of the competitors is using a Plett inside the spinner cone. Is he also using one inside the engine compartment for a super twist on a twin configuration? It looks like he may be doing just that, but can't really tell from the photos. Any other details on that set-up?

MattK

Neo02

(Photo from Piotr's page).

That ought to be Bernd Beschorners plane. He has the Plett mounted up front to help improve the cooling. Outrunners have this problem that most heat is generated inside the engine (as opposed to Hackers, which can be cooled from the outside). This also helps in moving the battery pack more aft, which might affect flying. It is not a double setup (it would be awfully heavy!!!).

Regards,
-Fabrizio

Neo02

One thing I noted: CPLR flew with an "Oxalys Evolution" with NO ZN signs. Producer seems to be http://www.flyingstar.it/ . Anyone got infos on what happened to CPLR/ZN?

macleote

There is a partnership between ZN line and flying star.

Angus Balfour

Team GB came 9th

Angus

ps I agree with Troy's comments about the judging. My own observations were that CPLR and Onda were in a different league. Both flew exceptionally well and really deserved the one, two. Roland also flew superbly (his rolling circles in the unknowns were awesome) and really deserved to take the final podium spot.

My congratulations to all competitors and teams.

Angus

Shui

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Well I ended up surprising my brother by showing up at the end of the day Friday at the field and watched the finals on Saturday. I've gotta say that after watching some flights, and the scores given, I was a bit surprised. Onda though I thought had the contest (IMO), and will be a well known person over many years, since he's only 18 now!

I'm hoping for my brother's sake he doesn't end up flying 1st in any contest for a loong time! lol

Here's a shot during the creation of the unknown pattern:





Jason practicing before the 1st unknown:

Shui

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Some more pics -


CPLR's plane


T. Onda's biplane and monoplane