Dave Patrick Edge 540
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I just got a DP Edge 540, but no manual. If anyone can give me the recommended control throws I would appreciate it. Also any tips on setup would be great. I already installed a G62 and Hitec 5645's all around. I can't wait.
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Kool! I just ordered a DP Edge 540 my self, I am putting a Poulan 46 with electronic ignition in it. Let me know how yours flys with the G-62. What is your dry weight with that engine??
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DP Edge with a G62 !!!! Is this the 1/4 scale edge or 40%. I heard DP is having fits with people putting a zdz 40 in the 1/4 scale edge, I hope its the 40% but then it seems that the 40% would want something more powerful. Hmmm, never thought there was a place for a G62 on a DP plane. Anyway, please keep us posted on the results.
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Well, if you had the instructions you would not have put that engine on it....Bad choice...good luck as it falls apart from the vibration...
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Its gotta be the 1/4 scale version b/c the G-62 would never have the power to climb out with the 40%.
The G-62 is way too heavy for the plane and skerlock is right your gonna have a aweful problem from the vibration, not to mention your wing loading is going to be super high for this airplane.
Dave Patrick is a great designer but IMO he picked a weird size with the Edge and the Extra 330. They are too heavy to seriously 3D for a saito 1.80 to pull. And the gas options increase the wing loading to the point where it is a little high. I really feel that DP should have went with a 27 or 28% on these planes so people could hang a DA 50 on the front of it and have a decent wing loading. And before I get flammed for saying this I do know that with the gas motors they perform pretty good 3D but it could be better.
The G-62 is way too heavy for the plane and skerlock is right your gonna have a aweful problem from the vibration, not to mention your wing loading is going to be super high for this airplane.
Dave Patrick is a great designer but IMO he picked a weird size with the Edge and the Extra 330. They are too heavy to seriously 3D for a saito 1.80 to pull. And the gas options increase the wing loading to the point where it is a little high. I really feel that DP should have went with a 27 or 28% on these planes so people could hang a DA 50 on the front of it and have a decent wing loading. And before I get flammed for saying this I do know that with the gas motors they perform pretty good 3D but it could be better.
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True the wing loading is going to be high. Question, why does everyone assume if you own an aerobatic plane you want to 3D? Cheif Aircraft sells this plane in a combo with a BME50.
The Dave Patrick Edge 540 is about 27%. Quarter scale for the Edge 540 would be 73" exactly. The DP Edge 540 is 79".
The Dave Patrick Edge 540 is about 27%. Quarter scale for the Edge 540 would be 73" exactly. The DP Edge 540 is 79".
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Bike466,
Being as the question was in a 3D forum I am assuming he wants it to 3D.
Personally, I would have went with the new Wild Hare Edge 540T. It was designed around a G-62, has an 84" wingspan and is only $400. As a matter of fact I have to find a way to get one myself.
If I were to put a gasser on the DP it would be nothing other than the DA 50. Its just slightly over 3lbs making it one of the lightest in its class. Plus it has just a touch more umph than the G-62.
Vince,
Bring this bird to the Pop Curtis Memorial Fall Fly in over in Andersonville. I want to see how it performs with the G-62.
Being as the question was in a 3D forum I am assuming he wants it to 3D.
Personally, I would have went with the new Wild Hare Edge 540T. It was designed around a G-62, has an 84" wingspan and is only $400. As a matter of fact I have to find a way to get one myself.
If I were to put a gasser on the DP it would be nothing other than the DA 50. Its just slightly over 3lbs making it one of the lightest in its class. Plus it has just a touch more umph than the G-62.
Vince,
Bring this bird to the Pop Curtis Memorial Fall Fly in over in Andersonville. I want to see how it performs with the G-62.
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A touch more umph? the zenoah isn't even as powerful as the zdz 40 rv-l.and yet its two pounds heavier.
I'm sorry to say this but you will probably will be able to fly this plane with this setup, but you will be missing out on the true feel and performance that this plane can offer. The DA-50 would not only be the best engine for this setup, but it will also be the easiest and by far one of the smoothest running engines in this class.
I'm sorry to say this but you will probably will be able to fly this plane with this setup, but you will be missing out on the true feel and performance that this plane can offer. The DA-50 would not only be the best engine for this setup, but it will also be the easiest and by far one of the smoothest running engines in this class.
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A guy in our club has a DP Edge with a DA50... It flies good but weighs 16.2 pounds... That is almost 31 oz per sq. ft. of wing loading. It will hover and will do 3D, but that wing loading is really too high... Also the engine is really rattling it to peices.
I am only familiar with the 79in Edge, but it really isn't built for a gas engine if you want to do 3D.
If you put a DA 50 on this plane you will have problems with vibration although it will probably fly great until it comes apart!
I am only familiar with the 79in Edge, but it really isn't built for a gas engine if you want to do 3D.
If you put a DA 50 on this plane you will have problems with vibration although it will probably fly great until it comes apart!
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For a plane this size I would want my wing loading to be around 27 oz.
CCDave
"REally isnt built for a gas engine if you want to do 3D"
I agree, but what motor is it built for a moki 2.10?? That is a heavy motor as well. I would say that DP needs to find a way to enlarge the wing span and area while reducing weight by a pound. This way the DA-50 would be THE MOTOR for a plane that would fly a lot like a 40%.
P.S.
I have a lot of respect for DP as a designer, these are just suggestions that would turn this plane into a 3D monster.
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"REally isnt built for a gas engine if you want to do 3D"
I agree, but what motor is it built for a moki 2.10?? That is a heavy motor as well. I would say that DP needs to find a way to enlarge the wing span and area while reducing weight by a pound. This way the DA-50 would be THE MOTOR for a plane that would fly a lot like a 40%.
P.S.
I have a lot of respect for DP as a designer, these are just suggestions that would turn this plane into a 3D monster.
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Nodoubt this plane was designed for a 1.80 or 2.10 glow engine and its no secret the lighter your wing loading the better it will fly especally for 3D. You can fly a plane this size with a gas engine and it will fly well especally if you don't care about 3D which I don't.
I have had a few people tell me the GSP Katana would not fly well with a gas engine. I have a GSP Katana 72" W/S (992 sq in) with an RCS 180 gasser weighs 13.5 pounds dry. I flew the plane with a Saito 180 and today with the RCS 180 and let me tell you the RCS 180 is 100% better. The plane flys awsome and lands a lot better than with the Saito.
I have had a few people tell me the GSP Katana would not fly well with a gas engine. I have a GSP Katana 72" W/S (992 sq in) with an RCS 180 gasser weighs 13.5 pounds dry. I flew the plane with a Saito 180 and today with the RCS 180 and let me tell you the RCS 180 is 100% better. The plane flys awsome and lands a lot better than with the Saito.
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I looked into the larger GSP planes but I read where they are heavy and customer service sucks. Its a shame b/c that Katana looks good. I guess I will just save all my change up and hopefully one day get an Exclusiv Katana with a DA 150. My other choice against the GSP planes were that I heard that they dont 3D well at all. Thats fine for some people but my goal is to wind a freestyle contest one day.
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I'm using the G62 because I already had it. The previous owner was using a DA50. I'll fly it and if I don't like it, I will change it or sell it. You guys offering the criticism, is this from experience or from info on the web? Thanks.
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Southern touch9, dude you got bad info on Giant Scale Planes. The Katana is not made by GSP they are just a distributor. The Katana is made by China Model Productions and is sold by ChiefAircraft.com, Bruckner Hobbies and a few others. Incidentally Chiefaircraft.com has the on sale for $219.00 and even though I personally do not fly 3D the Katana is a 3D machine with an OS 160fx and is very light, the airframe weighs about 5 pounds. Check out this thread.
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_10..._1/key_/tm.htm
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_10..._1/key_/tm.htm
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Southern touch9, dude you got bad info on Giant Scale Planes. The Katana is not made by GSP they are just a distributor. The Katana is made by China Model Productions and is sold by ChiefAircraft.com, Bruckner Hobbies and a few others. Incidentally Chiefaircraft.com has the on sale for $219.00 and even though I personally do not fly 3D the Katana is a 3D machine with an OS 160fx and is very light, the airframe weighs about 5 pounds. Check out this thread.
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_10..._1/key_/tm.htm
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_10..._1/key_/tm.htm
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I will take a look into this company and their planes before saying anything else. I just know that GSP has a bad rep. and I wouldnt want to deal with them from what I have heard from some fairly knowledgeable voices in the RC community.
VinceY
I have no experience with this particular combo but I do know that the wing loading is on the upper end of the curve with the 3.08 lbs DA50 on the front of it. When you add over an extra pound to it that increases the wing loading more, plus you still dont have the power of the DA 50. I really hope it works out for you but I dont have a good feeling about this one. I think the airplane will land hot and might have a tendency to snap out with you on turns.
My advice would be to brace the firewall well and thread lock every screw you put on there. Do us a favor and weigh the airplane fully set up with no gas. I would be interested to see what it weighs.
I will take a look into this company and their planes before saying anything else. I just know that GSP has a bad rep. and I wouldnt want to deal with them from what I have heard from some fairly knowledgeable voices in the RC community.
VinceY
I have no experience with this particular combo but I do know that the wing loading is on the upper end of the curve with the 3.08 lbs DA50 on the front of it. When you add over an extra pound to it that increases the wing loading more, plus you still dont have the power of the DA 50. I really hope it works out for you but I dont have a good feeling about this one. I think the airplane will land hot and might have a tendency to snap out with you on turns.
My advice would be to brace the firewall well and thread lock every screw you put on there. Do us a favor and weigh the airplane fully set up with no gas. I would be interested to see what it weighs.
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A G62 can hover a 22 pound plane. Let's see a ZDZ 40 do that. Let's also see it turn a 22-10 at 7K.
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A touch more umph? the zenoah isn't even as powerful as the zdz 40 rv-l.and yet its two pounds heavier.
I'm sorry to say this but you will probably will be able to fly this plane with this setup, but you will be missing out on the true feel and performance that this plane can offer. The DA-50 would not only be the best engine for this setup, but it will also be the easiest and by far one of the smoothest running engines in this class.
A touch more umph? the zenoah isn't even as powerful as the zdz 40 rv-l.and yet its two pounds heavier.
I'm sorry to say this but you will probably will be able to fly this plane with this setup, but you will be missing out on the true feel and performance that this plane can offer. The DA-50 would not only be the best engine for this setup, but it will also be the easiest and by far one of the smoothest running engines in this class.
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I just read the stats on the Katana and they look alright. The only thing I can see that could be a little off is that the elevators could stand to be a little bigger. Like the Extreme flight elevators. Where in FL. are you from, I would like to see this airplane fly before I come to any conclusions. Do you ever come to any of the GA fly ins?
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No I really don't get to many flyins even in Florida. I went to Top Gun this year and I went to the full scale World Aerobatics Championship (which also had an RC TOC style Championship) but thats about it. I just fly at my home field for fun (Sunset Flyers St. Cloud, FL).
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Yes there were, the best I have ever seen it was like a mini TOC. It was very windy the day I was there. Get this, it was too windy (cross wind) for the full scale most of the day but not too windy for the RC planes. I was kind of disappointed in the full scale, I didn't realize they flew so high during the competition. I don't remember what the hard deck was exactly but I think it was like 1500 feet.



