I don't know if I'm in the right forum or not but dual rates and rates in general are in 3D,, Here is the deal, also you might want to read this a few times cause when I read it back it confused me, anyway I have put together about 11 ARF's since I started this hobby close to a year ago, Well right now I'm putting together a Waco .60 bi-wing plane and when it came to the part about setting the rates it was talking about Full rate and dual rate what is the defferents?? also it said to set my aileron control throw at 3/8" up and down on full rate and 5/8 up and down on dual rate so what does that mean ??and what really confused me was when I got to the Rudder and Elevator it recommended that I set my Elevator to 1" up/down on full rate and 3/4" up/down on Dual rate and my Rudder to 1 3/4" right and left on Full rate and 1" left and right on Dual rate. Now just so you'll know I have a 9C futaba radio so maybe you guys can tell me what I need to set it on. I really don't mean to sound so stupid but I really need to understand this part of the hobby, now what I have been doing in the past is just setting the rates up just off the top of my head, for example I would only use two different rates only on the ailerons , The rate by default on my 9C would be a of 100 and I would change that to 75 and my expo to about -30 and the for my high rates or 3D or what ever its called I would set it to 120 and expo of -50 and I would use my C toggle switch to go back and forth to those settings, Now don't ask me why I set it to those that's just what I have figured out on my own, But I want to learn this the right way, so could someone please spend a little time and fix my rate hell I'm going through....
Thanks a lot
Randy

hi ok full rate is your high rate the bigger throw dual rate is your low rate the lesser throw

In all your statements except for aileron, you state that the most control travel is high rate.
The statement that duel rate is less should be self explanatory, excluding the aileron statement which seems to be inversed.
On a new airplane it's always best to start with low rates.

Ahh, the joys of computer radios.

As you only have been with the hobby for a year, I will assume little knowledge.

First, set up the ATV on the radio to 130 % on all surfaces. (the Futaba goes up to 140%, but you need some lee way for setting the trims on the tranny)(silly I know that it goes up beyond 100%, but that is the Japs for you). You do this to get the most out of your servos. (eg if you set it at 50%, you will only get half out of your servo compared with 100%).

Now set up the control linkages so that you get the recomended full throw on all the surfaces with the radio set at this level. For your Waco, you have 5/8" up and down on aileron, 1" on elevator, and 1 3/4" on the rudder. Moving out the control at the servo horn increases throw, out at the control surface decreases throw. It is tricky holding a ruler against the control surface, holding it still, and then moving the control on the tranny, but it can be done. For elevator and ailerons I usually rest the ruler on the ground, so you are measuring from say 6" to 7" rather than 0" to 1".

You have now set your "full" or "high" rates.

Now you set your "low" or "Dual" rates using the dual rate function. For the ailerons you will need something like 60% (5/8 divided by 3/8) and so on. Once set check with the ruler. Check the switches are moving in the right direction for you. Most people use up (push away from you) for high rates and down (pull towards you) for low.

Now you are set. Check everything is working ok (never just waggle the sticks prior to take off, always check the control direction) and go fly. Having flown, you may want to alter the rates, both high and low, that you have set to suit your flying style.

As you are still new, you should experiment with different rates and levels of expo. eg, for all my planes, not just 3D monsters, I now tend to have -60% expo on low rate aileron, and -100% on high and 3D rates, and a switch to set in -100% on low rates (I have a 9Z so can do things like that). This is just the way I like to fly. I have less on elevator and rudder.