But the plane did hover for a second so he did do it

It’s funny that penguin being there innit? What’s it doing there Jon?

that's like saying that after you hand the transmitter to a new student he's "flying" while the aircraft plummets to the gound.

Just another note he wouldnt go to that much trouble in photo shop or any of those other programs. He always trys new things in the winter when he cant fly outside.

same as driving my truck with no hands straight into a tree with...for that 4 secs before i hit the tree..i was driving?

So...... how long do you have to hover before its considered hovering ?

yea you caused it

you have to at least have some kind of control over it ...and throttle doesn't count...can he turn it? can he correct any aspect of it's flight???? NO WAY

it is still hovering though.

We need to see some video. YO JON, Post some video !!!!!!

no that's called paused falling

Sure he can. With a burst of throttle you can move a little air over the tail to make adjustments.
Think outside the bun baby.

By the way, great pics Jon, I see why you would not post them here. Now you will have to scold Wayne.

I am on my way to go try it.

Jess

My thoughts exactly. If the pilot can control it in that position for say 15-30 seconds, then I'd say the pilot is hovering the plane inverted. If not, then the plane is hovering for a second or two, but the pilot is nothing more than an innocent bystander. A video would make that very clear

Either way, its got to be fun trying something new! Can we get a DA-150 to run backwards reliably?

well i was going to think outside the bun..but let's break this down..if the plane is tail high..and the prop is turned around backwards..then the prop wash is actually going down (away from any control surfaces) so bursting the throttle can't do anything to make the control surfaces work

If you burst the throttle, the plane will climb, in this case tail first. Air will have to pass over the control surfaces, or more like the surfaces pass through the air. Same for a slight decent. Control, how much is debatable, can be achieved.

This is of course tongue in cheek, as I am sure the pics were meant as.

ok lets look at this one. if you don't have prop wash...or the weight of the plane helping its self to stay verticle...how fast would you have to backward climb to have enough air flowing over the surfaces to gain control? common since says it's impossible (specially inside a living room) how high can one go to keep control?

If your climbing you're not hovering. I could visualize a plane going up to correct attitude and back down with the opposite input to continue the correction. Cycling the plane up and down could give a convincing impression of an inverted hover. Hats off for trying something new.

Hey freebird, you win. I said it was tongue in cheek, as in, a joke, as in, not serious.

Jess

Jon and I talked about the way the thread would read if I posted the pics.
We were exactly right. LOL.

You gotta love the internet!


BTW,
The pic is just that. A non doctored pic.

Wayne you knew better then opening up that can of worms on here, when you know everyone would break this picture down more then they did at Roswell, haha




Randy

Randy,

That is the best part about this thread.....

We are laughing. I especially like the PhotoShop comments.
While Jon was experimenting with this I was instant messaging with his girlfriend and she told me he was busting up stuff in the house while trying this out.
Jon must be awesome with Photo Shop to edit a pic and have it break something in his house!

It takes vertiall not time to do that sort of thing on photoshop. If i had a video id believe it, untill then its FAKE

1. To remain floating, suspended, or fluttering in the air: gulls hovering over the waves.
2. To remain or linger in or near a place: hovering around the speaker's podium.
3. To remain in an uncertain state; waver: hovered between anger and remorse.

From a dictionary.

1 and 2 seem to do it for me. (I won't mention the uncertain state!)
Blue[8D]

Isn't there a hyphen in "anal retentive"?

Geez guys, lighten up and enjoy the hobby!

GO GET A 40% CARDEN EDGE AND TAKE A VIDEO OF IT INVERTED-HOVERING AND I MIGHT/MAYBE/POSSIBLY/SOMETIME ANOTHER BELIEVE IT>>>[&o]