Profile Seduction
#1
Thread Starter

My Feedback: (43)
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 419
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
From: Whitehall, PA
Hey gang thanks to our good friend Vinny, we finally have some pics of our profile Seduction with OS 46 FX and APC 12-1/4 x3-3/4. Have about 16 or so flts on it and is working real well / a lot of FUN ! Only problem has been the HS 225MG servos ! The rudder servo nylon gear stripped at full rht rudder in flt and the aliron servos do not center well and one locked briefly in flt - almost caused a crash ! We only have the travel at 100 % on all and using a 6 VDC pack. They are quick but seem to not hold under a load ?? Would give it a decent score of 7.5 on a 10 scale so far, not the best but good overall. Very quick and a real blast !Take care and have FUN !! Rod & Chris in PA.
#5
Senior Member
My Feedback: (16)
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 2,666
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
From: Houston,
TX
How can a Nylon Gear strip if you are using 225MG (Metal gear) servos
I think you are probably using the regular 225's and not the MG's .
I am using MG's on my Top Cap, and never had any problems with them.
I think you are probably using the regular 225's and not the MG's .
I am using MG's on my Top Cap, and never had any problems with them.
#6

My Feedback: (6)
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 94
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
From: Bellingham,
MA
There are still nylon gears on a 225MG. Also, I have some lock on me in flight as well. But for the most part they have worked well for me.
Question: I am now covering my seduction wild style, and they had the airleron servos being on top of the wing just like your fun fly. I didn't like the way that looked, so I flipped the wing around (fully-symmetrical airfoil) to put them on the bottom. I think it looks better. Just wondering what their logic was for putting them on the top. The wings don't ride that close to the ground that you would have to worry about grass or dirt.
Question: I am now covering my seduction wild style, and they had the airleron servos being on top of the wing just like your fun fly. I didn't like the way that looked, so I flipped the wing around (fully-symmetrical airfoil) to put them on the bottom. I think it looks better. Just wondering what their logic was for putting them on the top. The wings don't ride that close to the ground that you would have to worry about grass or dirt.
#8
Thread Starter

My Feedback: (43)
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 419
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
From: Whitehall, PA
Kevin, almost did the same on ours , to have the servos on the bottom of wing. Would look a lot better for sure ! Yep, there are 2 nylon gears in the metal gear 225 MG's and the one that stripped out has very fine teeth on it. Have FUN !! Rod :spinnyeye
#9
Senior Member
My Feedback: (16)
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 2,666
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
From: Houston,
TX
hmm... if that is the case I will seriously consider using them again on my next profile :disappoin The weight, size and torque seems just to be perfect on the 225MG's. Maybe I should try the Hitec Mini Digitals.
That seduction looks awsome by the way
Congratulations :thumbup:
That seduction looks awsome by the way
Congratulations :thumbup:
#11
Thread Starter

My Feedback: (43)
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 419
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
From: Whitehall, PA
Hey all , it came out at 4 lbs RTF with the OS 46 FX and reg muffler with all 225 MG's and a micro on throttle, using a small 600 MAH 6VDC pack. It fly's pretty light overall ! Very quick and FUN !! Does balistic / fast tumbeling outside snapps from knife edge - almost a just a blurr !! Pretty sweet ! Have FUN now , Rod & Chris
#12
Member
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 45
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
From: WHITEHALL PA
hey ramrod hows the new engine working on your seduction, is it running better that the old one was? by the way, are you ever gonna let me fly that one either?
Stikman
Stikman
#13
Thread Starter

My Feedback: (43)
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 419
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
From: Whitehall, PA
Hey Stickman (Eric) WHATUP you wild man ?????? OK here.You know you will get to fly it soon , if we can keep from hitting more bleachers and things like that for a while. The OS 46 went south and now we are breaking in a new Magnum 61 FS in it, really yanks it around nice and is running goog so far. Will try a larger prop on it soon also. Still using the APC 12.25 X 3.75 for breaking it in.
#15
Senior Member
My Feedback: (45)
:sunsmiley Nice job Rod what covering did you use I am getting the same plane and motor. How did it balance out for you ? Thanks for the pointers on servos still haven't made up my mind what kind to use in wing I may get specs on hitec new servos on the market from servo city Steve
#16
Member
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 45
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
From: WHITEHALL PA
Hello Mark and Steve, I got the kit from my local shop for about 150.00 , forgot where they got it from ? A US company from down south somewhere ? Will try to find out for ya. On the finish I painted the whole fuse with silver , then white dope on the front section and covered with Monocoat and Ultracoat. Got the decals from Randy in Canada. Still playing with the CG some , not real sure where it balances now with the 61 FS ? Seems to fly a bit nose heavy though. One word of warning :spinnyeye , if you are flying low and slow and dragging it around with the prop thrust and it quits, BAM !! It drops out like a rock ! As most planes will when you have no flying speed , but this one is a bit nastier then most. Would be mighty sweet if one could get it down to about 3 lbs !! It seems to have a fairly high wing loading with that high tapered wing, but it kinda makes up for it with its speed and nimbleness ! Definitly a FUN and challlenging plane and looks great being spanked around low and wild !!Keep havin FUN !! Rod & Chris
#17
Senior Member
My Feedback: (45)
Ramrod: I guess I should of told you I will be putting the OS-MAX 46 FX on it. Where did it balance out at? from reading other post it should be around 11" from trailing edge Is that right? the decals did not come with the kit. How much were they and where can I get some. Did you support the lower fuse with anything behind the wing? what servos did you switch to in wing? and can you open it up and fly it fast if you want. It will be my first profile and I am looking forward to this plane more than the U-can-do or the Edge 540 that I have needing assembly thank for your replies And. Mark if you read this you can mail order the plane from Singapore Hobby supplies there web address is http:www.singahobby.com They charge $147.30 Including shipping and insurance you will get Frederick Young takes about 14 days fast for as far as it comes from also some post in pattern 3/D under Seduction Wild style or Seduction fun fly RCU has a Review in magazine that where I fell in love with it. good luck Steve
#18
Thread Starter

My Feedback: (43)
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 419
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
From: Whitehall, PA
1. Where did it balance out at? from reading other post it should be around 11" from trailing edge Is that right?
Ours was very close to that with the 46, not sure now with the 61 ?
2. the decals did not come with the kit. How much were they and where can I get some. Got them from Randy in Canada for $ 20.00 I think , he is in some of the older seduction post and under the profile section. He is a good guy !
3. Did you support the lower fuse with anything behind the wing? Normally I do because most profiles brake behind the wing and ours did crack there on a hard landing when the eng quit low and slow. But I did not add anything to this one yet. I would install a 1/4 " or so carbon or glass rod into the bottom from way up into the eng doublers all the way back to the tail end. This will allow it to flex a lot without snapping off.
4. what servos did you switch to in wing? I used JR 4131's and they are working great !!
5. and can you open it up and fly it fast if you want. I would NOT open it up or even close while straight and level, only while climbing or in tight manuvers , not even in a large loop or you will propibly blow it apart !!?? None of these type FF / 3D planes are made for speed and most will flutter bad and blow apart due to the large control serfaces and especially the profiles where the whole tail section will move side to side a lot ! I think it would be much safer on the built up one due its structural integrity.
Have FUN with it , they are a BLAST !! Also be careful handling the wing during assembly, the sheeting is very thin and easy to break or crack it ! Take care, Rod & Chris
Ours was very close to that with the 46, not sure now with the 61 ?
2. the decals did not come with the kit. How much were they and where can I get some. Got them from Randy in Canada for $ 20.00 I think , he is in some of the older seduction post and under the profile section. He is a good guy !
3. Did you support the lower fuse with anything behind the wing? Normally I do because most profiles brake behind the wing and ours did crack there on a hard landing when the eng quit low and slow. But I did not add anything to this one yet. I would install a 1/4 " or so carbon or glass rod into the bottom from way up into the eng doublers all the way back to the tail end. This will allow it to flex a lot without snapping off.
4. what servos did you switch to in wing? I used JR 4131's and they are working great !!
5. and can you open it up and fly it fast if you want. I would NOT open it up or even close while straight and level, only while climbing or in tight manuvers , not even in a large loop or you will propibly blow it apart !!?? None of these type FF / 3D planes are made for speed and most will flutter bad and blow apart due to the large control serfaces and especially the profiles where the whole tail section will move side to side a lot ! I think it would be much safer on the built up one due its structural integrity.
Have FUN with it , they are a BLAST !! Also be careful handling the wing during assembly, the sheeting is very thin and easy to break or crack it ! Take care, Rod & Chris
#19
Thread Starter

My Feedback: (43)
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 419
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
From: Whitehall, PA
Hello Steve , just found the link to Randy for decals. http://www.rcmodelgraphics.com/Hope this helps, Rod
#20
Senior Member
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 810
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
From:
Pilot Models are distributed by Altech Marketing in the US... I don't know about this model, but all the other Seductions can be bought a lot cheaper from Singapore than the US
From Singapore the Wildstyle is $150... This includes shipping
From "down south" it's $200...
From Singapore the Wildstyle is $150... This includes shipping
From "down south" it's $200...
#21
Senior Member
My Feedback: (45)
:idea: Thanks Rod maid me think on the fuse great Idea the way you painted it. I think I will glass mine with 1/4 oz fiberglass cloth to help support it maybe add little carbon cloth behind the wing (lower fuse) And paint It with something cool to match my transparent purple ultracote, or use Rino cover and prime & paint. Got E-mail today from randy on the decals. I am trying to gather up a header so I can put my Hatori tune muffler on it. I like the sound not to mention the throttle response and the extra power I get when I punch it. Have it on my something extra with a old Os Max 45- f and it's like flying a little pylon racer fly's like a bat out of hell when I want it . I like racing the war birds at the club, its lots of fun. Thanks again for all your great help. Steve




